Painting A/C

[Rick Simms]

I was wondering how much weight is added to an A/C by painting it? It
seemed to us that there would be a substantial fuel savings and an
increase in load carrying capacity if the A/C weren't painted.

We were watching the A/C coming into Louisville and one individual
noticed a couple of them did not have the entire fuslage painted, only
the tail. This started a discussion of how much weight savings there
would be if the A/C only had a minimum of paint.

Louisville is a UPS hub. Delta and Southwest are the two major
passenger carriers. All of the A/C associated with these three
carriers have a full fuslage paint job. The only carrier that we could
think of that did not have the entire plane painted was American
Airlines. They only use the carrier lettering with red & blue striping
on their A/C.


Rick Simms
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Why is it that the first gray hairs in the eyebrows have to stick straight out?

[Luke]

"Rick Simms" > wrote in message
...
> I was wondering how much weight is added to an A/C by painting it? It
> seemed to us that there would be a substantial fuel savings and an
> increase in load carrying capacity if the A/C weren't painted.
>
> We were watching the A/C coming into Louisville and one individual
> noticed a couple of them did not have the entire fuslage painted, only
> the tail. This started a discussion of how much weight savings there
> would be if the A/C only had a minimum of paint.
>
> Louisville is a UPS hub. Delta and Southwest are the two major
> passenger carriers. All of the A/C associated with these three
> carriers have a full fuslage paint job. The only carrier that we could
> think of that did not have the entire plane painted was American
> Airlines. They only use the carrier lettering with red & blue striping
> on their A/C.



Depends on the plane, the complexity of the paint job and other factors.
On a 747, a paint job can weight something like 1,100 -1,200 lbs. On a
Cherokee, something like 20 or so lbs.


Luke

[Luke]

"Rick Simms" > wrote in message
...
> I was wondering how much weight is added to an A/C by painting it? It
> seemed to us that there would be a substantial fuel savings and an
> increase in load carrying capacity if the A/C weren't painted.
>
> We were watching the A/C coming into Louisville and one individual
> noticed a couple of them did not have the entire fuslage painted, only
> the tail. This started a discussion of how much weight savings there
> would be if the A/C only had a minimum of paint.
>
> Louisville is a UPS hub. Delta and Southwest are the two major
> passenger carriers. All of the A/C associated with these three
> carriers have a full fuslage paint job. The only carrier that we could
> think of that did not have the entire plane painted was American
> Airlines. They only use the carrier lettering with red & blue striping
> on their A/C.



Depends on the plane, the complexity of the paint job and other factors.
On a 747, a paint job can weight something like 1,100 -1,200 lbs. On a
Cherokee, something like 20 or so lbs.


Luke

[Woody]

Just do a google search and you can find all the information you need...
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_05/textonly/fo01txt.html


"Rick Simms" > wrote in message
...
>I was wondering how much weight is added to an A/C by painting it? It
> seemed to us that there would be a substantial fuel savings and an
> increase in load carrying capacity if the A/C weren't painted.
>
> We were watching the A/C coming into Louisville and one individual
> noticed a couple of them did not have the entire fuslage painted, only
> the tail. This started a discussion of how much weight savings there
> would be if the A/C only had a minimum of paint.
>
> Louisville is a UPS hub. Delta and Southwest are the two major
> passenger carriers. All of the A/C associated with these three
> carriers have a full fuslage paint job. The only carrier that we could
> think of that did not have the entire plane painted was American
> Airlines. They only use the carrier lettering with red & blue striping
> on their A/C.
>
>
> Rick Simms
> *******************************************
>
> Why is it that the first gray hairs in the eyebrows have to stick straight
> out?

[Woody]

Just do a google search and you can find all the information you need...
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_05/textonly/fo01txt.html


"Rick Simms" > wrote in message
...
>I was wondering how much weight is added to an A/C by painting it? It
> seemed to us that there would be a substantial fuel savings and an
> increase in load carrying capacity if the A/C weren't painted.
>
> We were watching the A/C coming into Louisville and one individual
> noticed a couple of them did not have the entire fuslage painted, only
> the tail. This started a discussion of how much weight savings there
> would be if the A/C only had a minimum of paint.
>
> Louisville is a UPS hub. Delta and Southwest are the two major
> passenger carriers. All of the A/C associated with these three
> carriers have a full fuslage paint job. The only carrier that we could
> think of that did not have the entire plane painted was American
> Airlines. They only use the carrier lettering with red & blue striping
> on their A/C.
>
>
> Rick Simms
> *******************************************
>
> Why is it that the first gray hairs in the eyebrows have to stick straight
> out?

[Luke]

"Woody" > wrote in message
. ..
> Just do a google search and you can find all the information you need...
>
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_05/textonly/fo01txt.html
>


Excellent link Woody. Thanks.


Luke

[Luke]

"Woody" > wrote in message
. ..
> Just do a google search and you can find all the information you need...
>
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_05/textonly/fo01txt.html
>


Excellent link Woody. Thanks.


Luke

[Highspeed]

Air Canada thought they could save some money by taking the paint off of
their 767's. They did a trial with one of them and then decided after 6-8
months that the maintenance cost to keep the aircraft polished was more than
the fuel savings by not painting it at all. It has since been repainted.

Lars



"Luke" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Woody" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Just do a google search and you can find all the information you need...
>>
> http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_05/textonly/fo01txt.html
>>
>
>
> Excellent link Woody. Thanks.
>
>
> Luke
>
>

[Highspeed]

Air Canada thought they could save some money by taking the paint off of
their 767's. They did a trial with one of them and then decided after 6-8
months that the maintenance cost to keep the aircraft polished was more than
the fuel savings by not painting it at all. It has since been repainted.

Lars



"Luke" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Woody" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Just do a google search and you can find all the information you need...
>>
> http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_05/textonly/fo01txt.html
>>
>
>
> Excellent link Woody. Thanks.
>
>
> Luke
>
>