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Mitchell Holman
January 5th 07, 03:24 AM

Russell
January 5th 07, 02:35 PM
looks more like a hat that I've seen
"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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Russell
January 5th 07, 02:35 PM
looks more like a hat that I've seen
"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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Al Grey
January 5th 07, 11:57 PM
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:35:13 +0900, Russell wrote:

> looks more like a hat that I've seen

It's either a part from a British soft-drink cooler or a chicken brooder.

Seriously....

Al Grey
January 5th 07, 11:57 PM
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:35:13 +0900, Russell wrote:

> looks more like a hat that I've seen

It's either a part from a British soft-drink cooler or a chicken brooder.

Seriously....

max[_1_]
January 6th 07, 01:06 AM
Or a spinning top.

"Russell" > wrote in message
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> looks more like a hat that I've seen
> "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
> ...
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max[_1_]
January 6th 07, 01:06 AM
Or a spinning top.

"Russell" > wrote in message
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> looks more like a hat that I've seen
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> ...
>
>

Mitchell Holman
January 6th 07, 08:43 PM
Mitchell Holman > wrote in news:Xns98AED9C246B8Dta2eene2@
216.196.97.131:

>


From the old 1960's show The Invaders.

Whatever happened to Roy Thinnes, anyway?

Mitchell Holman
January 6th 07, 08:43 PM
Mitchell Holman > wrote in news:Xns98AED9C246B8Dta2eene2@
216.196.97.131:

>


From the old 1960's show The Invaders.

Whatever happened to Roy Thinnes, anyway?

Al E.N. Grey
January 6th 07, 11:08 PM
Mitchell Holman wrote:

> Mitchell Holman > wrote in news:Xns98AED9C246B8Dta2eene2@
> 216.196.97.131:
>
>>
>
>
> From the old 1960's show The Invaders.

Hi Mitchell,

Actually, it isn't.

The first three pix here are Invaders stuff; note particularly the
bottom and the round sections. They are lights but not landing gear.

The remaining pix are all Adamski stuff; here, the round balls are not
lighted but are the landing gear.

Sorry to correct the quiz creator, but hey, this is what I do !!


> Whatever happened to Roy Thinnes, anyway?


Well, he had a show called The Psychiatrist for a while; pretty good, too.

And of course, most recently, had three return guest shots on the X-Files.



All best,


Al E.N. Grey
Hovering over a theatre near you...

Al E.N. Grey
January 6th 07, 11:08 PM
Mitchell Holman wrote:

> Mitchell Holman > wrote in news:Xns98AED9C246B8Dta2eene2@
> 216.196.97.131:
>
>>
>
>
> From the old 1960's show The Invaders.

Hi Mitchell,

Actually, it isn't.

The first three pix here are Invaders stuff; note particularly the
bottom and the round sections. They are lights but not landing gear.

The remaining pix are all Adamski stuff; here, the round balls are not
lighted but are the landing gear.

Sorry to correct the quiz creator, but hey, this is what I do !!


> Whatever happened to Roy Thinnes, anyway?


Well, he had a show called The Psychiatrist for a while; pretty good, too.

And of course, most recently, had three return guest shots on the X-Files.



All best,


Al E.N. Grey
Hovering over a theatre near you...

Al Grey[_2_]
January 6th 07, 11:11 PM
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/INVADERS%20UFO%20PAGE.htm


Meant to suggest a classic "UFO," the Invaders' Saucer was clearly
inspired by the "Venusian" saucers photographed by self-proclaimed alien
abductee George Adamski who published several books about his cosmic
adventures during the late 1940s to mid-1950s. It was subsequently
revealed that the "Venusian" spacecraft he'd photographed was actually
part of an automatic chicken-feeder.

- 30 -

Al Grey[_2_]
January 6th 07, 11:11 PM
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/INVADERS%20UFO%20PAGE.htm


Meant to suggest a classic "UFO," the Invaders' Saucer was clearly
inspired by the "Venusian" saucers photographed by self-proclaimed alien
abductee George Adamski who published several books about his cosmic
adventures during the late 1940s to mid-1950s. It was subsequently
revealed that the "Venusian" spacecraft he'd photographed was actually
part of an automatic chicken-feeder.

- 30 -

Alan Erskine
January 7th 07, 01:52 AM
"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
news:Xns98AED9C246B8Dta2eene2@
> 216.196.97.131:
>
> >
>
>
> From the old 1960's show The Invaders.
>
> Whatever happened to Roy Thinnes, anyway?

Still kicking; still acting. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0858186/

--
Alan Erskine

Alan Erskine
January 7th 07, 01:52 AM
"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
...
> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
news:Xns98AED9C246B8Dta2eene2@
> 216.196.97.131:
>
> >
>
>
> From the old 1960's show The Invaders.
>
> Whatever happened to Roy Thinnes, anyway?

Still kicking; still acting. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0858186/

--
Alan Erskine

CWO4 Dave Mann
May 3rd 07, 08:05 PM
Al Grey wrote:
>
> http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/INVADERS%20UFO%20PAGE.htm
>
>
> Meant to suggest a classic "UFO," the Invaders' Saucer was clearly
> inspired by the "Venusian" saucers photographed by self-proclaimed alien
> abductee George Adamski who published several books about his cosmic
> adventures during the late 1940s to mid-1950s. It was subsequently
> revealed that the "Venusian" spacecraft he'd photographed was actually
> part of an automatic chicken-feeder.
>
> - 30 -
>
>


Mr Adamski was a really affable and friendly old man when I met him. My
mother knew him from the Point Loma Theosophy Society in San Diego.
After he wrote his "Inside" book we drove up to Alpine, CA to visit him.
I was about 12 at the time and was really into reading sci fi. I
can't remember what I talked about but I was absolutely fascinated to
hear his very detailed explanation of his "trip"

Wow! I hadn't thought about that since I don't know when .. thanks for
bringing the Adamski Chicken Feeder into the picture (pun, sorry).

Al Grey[_2_]
May 3rd 07, 10:53 PM
On Thu, 03 May 2007 14:05:22 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

> Al Grey wrote:
>>
>> http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/INVADERS%20UFO%20PAGE.htm
>>
>>
>> Meant to suggest a classic "UFO," the Invaders' Saucer was clearly
>> inspired by the "Venusian" saucers photographed by self-proclaimed
>> alien abductee George Adamski who published several books about his
>> cosmic adventures during the late 1940s to mid-1950s. It was
>> subsequently revealed that the "Venusian" spacecraft he'd photographed
>> was actually part of an automatic chicken-feeder.
>>
>> - 30 -
>
> Mr Adamski was a really affable and friendly old man when I met him. My
> mother knew him from the Point Loma Theosophy Society in San Diego.

Hi Dave!

Yeah, Adamski was deeply into all things 'unusual' for many years:

"In 1921 he lectured philosophy in California. Adamski founded the
monestary of the 'Royal Order of Tibet' at Laguna Beach in 1934, where he
taught 'Universal Laws' and 'Universal Progressive Christianity'. At this
time his students gave him the title 'Professor'. For the record, Adamski
never claimed to be an academic professor."

As the last sentence illustrates, he was an odd mixture. He made his wild
claims, yet never really tried to milk it dry. He really didn't have to.

He /did/ receive preferential treatment from certain 'official'
organizations, but my personal feeling it that this was part-in-parcel
with the Batelle Institute's study of 1952(?), whose recommendation was to
'demystify' the UFO problem. Focusing on the wild and unsupported claims
was part of this, and ignoring or 'pseudo-explaining' truly puzzling cases
(especially from military sources, primarily from the USAF and other
airborne sources) was an integral part of this.

And it worked all too well.


> After he wrote his "Inside" book we drove up to Alpine, CA to visit him.
> I was about 12 at the time and was really into reading sci fi. I
> can't remember what I talked about but I was absolutely fascinated to
> hear his very detailed explanation of his "trip"
>
> Wow! I hadn't thought about that since I don't know when .. thanks for
> bringing the Adamski Chicken Feeder into the picture (pun, sorry).


This is another interesting l'il episode like the chicken feeder:

"The Water Cooler Episode of 1975

"A sizable photograph in the London Evening News of September 19th, 1975,
depicted the chairman of the British UFO Society, Mr. Rogers holding up
the top of a bottle cooler discovered by an associate Mr. Lawrence,
acquired in an Italian restaurant in London. Apparently the lid or shade
of this device was similar in shape to the famous "Bell Shaped Scout
spacecraft" photographed all the over the world and by the late George
Adamski. Claiming disappointment and disillusionment, the implication was
made that Adamski had used such a bottle cooler, constructed in Wigan,
Lancashire, as the model for his pictures.

Adamski skeptics and detractors, alongside a grateful Press greedily
seized the opportunity to once again rush to judgment and debunk both
Adamski and the entire subject.

Evening News: "Flying saucer phoney & how he did it."
Evening Standard: "The lid comes of a UFO mystery."
Scottish Daily News: "Flying saucer made in Wigan."
Daily Mirror: "The UFO made in Wigan."
Northampton Chronicle: "UFO found in London."

However, on the September 20th broadcast of the BBC Radio News Magazine, a
Mr. Frank Nicholson, a refrigerator engineer, came forward proving that he
was the actual designer of the bottle cooler in question. Having designed
it in 1959, at least six years after the first publication of the Adamski
photographs, Nicholson contended that he actually used the Adamski photos
as the inspiration for his invention and definitely not the other way
around, as so erroneously and irresponsibly implied.

Only two Papers were responsible enough to print retractions. On September
23rd issue of the Daily Mirror printed, " The famous flying saucer picture
is not a fake at all." And the September 22 issue of the Bristol Evening
Post ran, " Down to Earth with a bang."

OK, back to reality!

I have not posted any UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) reports here,
and certainly would not unless asked. But I do work closely with a /very/
good and serious air-safety organization called NARCAP (National Aviation
Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena)

http://www.narcap.org/

and will post a very brief note and link when they are finished with their
O'Hare Case (November 7, 2006) Report, which is only awaiting a late FOIA
document.

The site is interesting, and the O'Hare report promises to be as well,
especially in the way the FAA and other official agencies handled it (or
didn't), at least publicly.

Thanks much for the message, Dave!

We now return you to your regular verifiable aircraft, which are already
in progress -- everywhere!


"Al"

:^)

CWO4 Dave Mann
May 4th 07, 02:50 AM
Al Grey wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2007 14:05:22 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
>
>> Al Grey wrote:
>>> http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/INVADERS%20UFO%20PAGE.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> Meant to suggest a classic "UFO," the Invaders' Saucer was clearly
>>> inspired by the "Venusian" saucers photographed by self-proclaimed
>>> alien abductee George Adamski who published several books about his
>>> cosmic adventures during the late 1940s to mid-1950s. It was
>>> subsequently revealed that the "Venusian" spacecraft he'd photographed
>>> was actually part of an automatic chicken-feeder.
>>>
>>> - 30 -
>> Mr Adamski was a really affable and friendly old man when I met him. My
>> mother knew him from the Point Loma Theosophy Society in San Diego.
>
> Hi Dave!
>
> Yeah, Adamski was deeply into all things 'unusual' for many years:
>
> "In 1921 he lectured philosophy in California. Adamski founded the
> monestary of the 'Royal Order of Tibet' at Laguna Beach in 1934, where he
> taught 'Universal Laws' and 'Universal Progressive Christianity'. At this
> time his students gave him the title 'Professor'. For the record, Adamski
> never claimed to be an academic professor."
>
> As the last sentence illustrates, he was an odd mixture. He made his wild
> claims, yet never really tried to milk it dry. He really didn't have to.
>
> He /did/ receive preferential treatment from certain 'official'
> organizations, but my personal feeling it that this was part-in-parcel
> with the Batelle Institute's study of 1952(?), whose recommendation was to
> 'demystify' the UFO problem. Focusing on the wild and unsupported claims
> was part of this, and ignoring or 'pseudo-explaining' truly puzzling cases
> (especially from military sources, primarily from the USAF and other
> airborne sources) was an integral part of this.
>
> And it worked all too well.
>
>
>> After he wrote his "Inside" book we drove up to Alpine, CA to visit him.
>> I was about 12 at the time and was really into reading sci fi. I
>> can't remember what I talked about but I was absolutely fascinated to
>> hear his very detailed explanation of his "trip"
>>
>> Wow! I hadn't thought about that since I don't know when .. thanks for
>> bringing the Adamski Chicken Feeder into the picture (pun, sorry).
>
>
> This is another interesting l'il episode like the chicken feeder:
>
> "The Water Cooler Episode of 1975
>
> "A sizable photograph in the London Evening News of September 19th, 1975,
> depicted the chairman of the British UFO Society, Mr. Rogers holding up
> the top of a bottle cooler discovered by an associate Mr. Lawrence,
> acquired in an Italian restaurant in London. Apparently the lid or shade
> of this device was similar in shape to the famous "Bell Shaped Scout
> spacecraft" photographed all the over the world and by the late George
> Adamski. Claiming disappointment and disillusionment, the implication was
> made that Adamski had used such a bottle cooler, constructed in Wigan,
> Lancashire, as the model for his pictures.
>
> Adamski skeptics and detractors, alongside a grateful Press greedily
> seized the opportunity to once again rush to judgment and debunk both
> Adamski and the entire subject.
>
> Evening News: "Flying saucer phoney & how he did it."
> Evening Standard: "The lid comes of a UFO mystery."
> Scottish Daily News: "Flying saucer made in Wigan."
> Daily Mirror: "The UFO made in Wigan."
> Northampton Chronicle: "UFO found in London."
>
> However, on the September 20th broadcast of the BBC Radio News Magazine, a
> Mr. Frank Nicholson, a refrigerator engineer, came forward proving that he
> was the actual designer of the bottle cooler in question. Having designed
> it in 1959, at least six years after the first publication of the Adamski
> photographs, Nicholson contended that he actually used the Adamski photos
> as the inspiration for his invention and definitely not the other way
> around, as so erroneously and irresponsibly implied.
>
> Only two Papers were responsible enough to print retractions. On September
> 23rd issue of the Daily Mirror printed, " The famous flying saucer picture
> is not a fake at all." And the September 22 issue of the Bristol Evening
> Post ran, " Down to Earth with a bang."
>
> OK, back to reality!
>
> I have not posted any UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) reports here,
> and certainly would not unless asked. But I do work closely with a /very/
> good and serious air-safety organization called NARCAP (National Aviation
> Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena)
>
> http://www.narcap.org/
>
> and will post a very brief note and link when they are finished with their
> O'Hare Case (November 7, 2006) Report, which is only awaiting a late FOIA
> document.
>
> The site is interesting, and the O'Hare report promises to be as well,
> especially in the way the FAA and other official agencies handled it (or
> didn't), at least publicly.
>
> Thanks much for the message, Dave!
>
> We now return you to your regular verifiable aircraft, which are already
> in progress -- everywhere!
>
>
> "Al"
>
> :^)
>
>
>

Thanks for the also interesting reply to my reply ....

I love to look at my Google Earth showing Area 51. I have a 21" LCD
monitor with my Linux box "The Mighty Wurlitzer" and you may be sure
that I have been over every inch. Can't see under ground, however, to
the Great Hive.

Oh well.

Cheers,

Dave

No Name
May 4th 07, 01:05 PM
You look at Area 51 pics taken by a government satellite? Someday I will
have to take you for a ride in my flying saucer to see the real picture.
Pathetic earthlings!

"CWO4 Dave Mann" > wrote in message
. ..

> Thanks for the also interesting reply to my reply ....
>
> I love to look at my Google Earth showing Area 51. I have a 21" LCD
> monitor with my Linux box "The Mighty Wurlitzer" and you may be sure that
> I have been over every inch. Can't see under ground, however, to the
> Great Hive.
>
> Oh well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave

CWO4 Dave Mann
May 4th 07, 02:48 PM
wrote:
> You look at Area 51 pics taken by a government satellite? Someday I will
> have to take you for a ride in my flying saucer to see the real picture.
> Pathetic earthlings!
>
> "CWO4 Dave Mann" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
>> Thanks for the also interesting reply to my reply ....
>>
>> I love to look at my Google Earth showing Area 51. I have a 21" LCD
>> monitor with my Linux box "The Mighty Wurlitzer" and you may be sure that
>> I have been over every inch. Can't see under ground, however, to the
>> Great Hive.
>>
>> Oh well.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>
>
"Hah! Pathetic Earthlings! Who Can Help You Now?"

As for the Flash Gordan movies, I liked them in this order:

1. Original with Johnny Weismuller
2. Flesh Gordan
3. Max von Sydow was a pretty good Ming, however


Now speaking of monsters, I notice that the Big Head guy from This
Island Earth has a new gig, news reporter on Futurama! "Arrugh!"

Cheers,

Dave



Cheers,

Dave

Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]
May 4th 07, 05:14 PM
CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
> I love to look at my Google Earth showing Area 51. I have a 21" LCD
> monitor with my Linux box "The Mighty Wurlitzer" and you may be sure
> that I have been over every inch. Can't see under ground, however, to
> the Great Hive.
>
> Oh well.
>
>


Hey Dave, izzat the only "Mighty Wurlitzer" in them thar' Tennessee hills?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.atos.org/Pages/Journal/hifi/marbro.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.atos.org/Pages/Journal/hifi/HiFi.html&h=180&w=212&sz=11&hl=en&start=7&tbnid=rpI5s71VcgBbdM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=106&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dprovidence%2Bwurlitzer%2B%26gbv%3D2%2 6svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

JT

CWO4 Dave Mann
May 4th 07, 08:33 PM
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
> CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
>> I love to look at my Google Earth showing Area 51. I have a 21" LCD
>> monitor with my Linux box "The Mighty Wurlitzer" and you may be sure
>> that I have been over every inch. Can't see under ground, however, to
>> the Great Hive.
>>
>> Oh well.
>>
>>
>
>
> Hey Dave, izzat the only "Mighty Wurlitzer" in them thar' Tennessee hills?
>
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.atos.org/Pages/Journal/hifi/marbro.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.atos.org/Pages/Journal/hifi/HiFi.html&h=180&w=212&sz=11&hl=en&start=7&tbnid=rpI5s71VcgBbdM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=106&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dprovidence%2Bwurlitzer%2B%26gbv%3D2%2 6svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Well Howdeeee!
Not that beautiful instrument, just my own little computer system ...

Cheers!

Dave

Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]
May 5th 07, 12:19 AM
CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
>>
>>> I love to look at my Google Earth showing Area 51. I have a 21" LCD
>>> monitor with my Linux box "The Mighty Wurlitzer" and you may be sure
>>> that I have been over every inch. Can't see under ground, however,
>>> to the Great Hive.
>>>
>>> Oh well.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Dave, izzat the only "Mighty Wurlitzer" in them thar' Tennessee
>> hills?
>>
>> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.atos.org/Pages/Journal/hifi/marbro.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.atos.org/Pages/Journal/hifi/HiFi.html&h=180&w=212&sz=11&hl=en&start=7&tbnid=rpI5s71VcgBbdM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=106&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dprovidence%2Bwurlitzer%2B%26gbv%3D2%2 6svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
>>
>>
>> JT
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
> Well Howdeeee!
> Not that beautiful instrument, just my own little computer system ...
>
> Cheers!
>
> Dave
>


Hey... I'm a happy camper here in Austin runnin' an ancient G4 400 but
the best part is the 22" Samsung recently acquired wide screen. Tons of
"acreage" to put stuff!

JT

Byron Covey
May 5th 07, 12:19 AM

William Hughes
May 5th 07, 03:54 AM
On Fri, 04 May 2007 23:19:27 GMT, in alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Grumpy AuContraire > wrote:

>Hey... I'm a happy camper here in Austin runnin' an ancient G4 400 but
>the best part is the 22" Samsung recently acquired wide screen. Tons of
>"acreage" to put stuff!

Only one screen? I've got paired 17s here in San Antonio; one LCD, one
CRT. Set 'em at high-res, quarter the screens and I have eight
applications up and running simultaneously.
--
Oh we got a new computer but it's quite a disappointment
'Cause it always gave this same insane advice:
"OH YOU NEED LITTLE TEENY EYES FOR READING LITTLE TEENY PRINT
LIKE YOU NEED LITTLE TEENY HANDS FOR MILKING MICE."

"Little Teeny Eyes" by Tom Digby - http://www.well.com/user/bubbles/LilTEyes.txt

William Hughes
May 5th 07, 04:03 AM
On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:19:38 -0400, in alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
"Byron Covey" > wrote:

Obviously a fake - no grounding wire, no tie downs, no chocks, no fire
extinguisher...
--
Oh we got a new computer but it's quite a disappointment
'Cause it always gave this same insane advice:
"OH YOU NEED LITTLE TEENY EYES FOR READING LITTLE TEENY PRINT
LIKE YOU NEED LITTLE TEENY HANDS FOR MILKING MICE."

"Little Teeny Eyes" by Tom Digby - http://www.well.com/user/bubbles/LilTEyes.txt

Al Grey[_2_]
May 5th 07, 04:15 AM
On Thu, 03 May 2007 20:50:31 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

> Al Grey wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 May 2007 14:05:22 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
>>
>>> Al Grey wrote:
>>>> http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/INVADERS%20UFO%20PAGE.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meant to suggest a classic "UFO," the Invaders' Saucer was clearly
>>>> inspired by the "Venusian" saucers photographed by self-proclaimed
>>>> alien abductee George Adamski who published several books about his
>>>> cosmic adventures during the late 1940s to mid-1950s. It was
>>>> subsequently revealed that the "Venusian" spacecraft he'd photographed
>>>> was actually part of an automatic chicken-feeder.
>>>>
>>>> - 30 -
>>> Mr Adamski was a really affable and friendly old man when I met him. My
>>> mother knew him from the Point Loma Theosophy Society in San Diego.
>>
>> Hi Dave!
>>
>> Yeah, Adamski was deeply into all things 'unusual' for many years:
>>
>> "In 1921 he lectured philosophy in California. Adamski founded the
>> monestary of the 'Royal Order of Tibet' at Laguna Beach in 1934, where he
>> taught 'Universal Laws' and 'Universal Progressive Christianity'. At this
>> time his students gave him the title 'Professor'. For the record, Adamski
>> never claimed to be an academic professor."
>>
>> As the last sentence illustrates, he was an odd mixture. He made his wild
>> claims, yet never really tried to milk it dry. He really didn't have to.
>>
>> He /did/ receive preferential treatment from certain 'official'
>> organizations, but my personal feeling it that this was part-in-parcel
>> with the Batelle Institute's study of 1952(?), whose recommendation was to
>> 'demystify' the UFO problem. Focusing on the wild and unsupported claims
>> was part of this, and ignoring or 'pseudo-explaining' truly puzzling cases
>> (especially from military sources, primarily from the USAF and other
>> airborne sources) was an integral part of this.
>>
>> And it worked all too well.
>>
>>
>>> After he wrote his "Inside" book we drove up to Alpine, CA to visit him.
>>> I was about 12 at the time and was really into reading sci fi. I
>>> can't remember what I talked about but I was absolutely fascinated to
>>> hear his very detailed explanation of his "trip"
>>>
>>> Wow! I hadn't thought about that since I don't know when .. thanks for
>>> bringing the Adamski Chicken Feeder into the picture (pun, sorry).
>>
>>
>> This is another interesting l'il episode like the chicken feeder:
>>
>> "The Water Cooler Episode of 1975
>>
>> "A sizable photograph in the London Evening News of September 19th, 1975,
>> depicted the chairman of the British UFO Society, Mr. Rogers holding up
>> the top of a bottle cooler discovered by an associate Mr. Lawrence,
>> acquired in an Italian restaurant in London. Apparently the lid or shade
>> of this device was similar in shape to the famous "Bell Shaped Scout
>> spacecraft" photographed all the over the world and by the late George
>> Adamski. Claiming disappointment and disillusionment, the implication was
>> made that Adamski had used such a bottle cooler, constructed in Wigan,
>> Lancashire, as the model for his pictures.
>>
>> Adamski skeptics and detractors, alongside a grateful Press greedily
>> seized the opportunity to once again rush to judgment and debunk both
>> Adamski and the entire subject.
>>
>> Evening News: "Flying saucer phoney & how he did it."
>> Evening Standard: "The lid comes of a UFO mystery."
>> Scottish Daily News: "Flying saucer made in Wigan."
>> Daily Mirror: "The UFO made in Wigan."
>> Northampton Chronicle: "UFO found in London."
>>
>> However, on the September 20th broadcast of the BBC Radio News Magazine, a
>> Mr. Frank Nicholson, a refrigerator engineer, came forward proving that he
>> was the actual designer of the bottle cooler in question. Having designed
>> it in 1959, at least six years after the first publication of the Adamski
>> photographs, Nicholson contended that he actually used the Adamski photos
>> as the inspiration for his invention and definitely not the other way
>> around, as so erroneously and irresponsibly implied.
>>
>> Only two Papers were responsible enough to print retractions. On September
>> 23rd issue of the Daily Mirror printed, " The famous flying saucer picture
>> is not a fake at all." And the September 22 issue of the Bristol Evening
>> Post ran, " Down to Earth with a bang."
>>
>> OK, back to reality!
>>
>> I have not posted any UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) reports here,
>> and certainly would not unless asked. But I do work closely with a /very/
>> good and serious air-safety organization called NARCAP (National Aviation
>> Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena)
>>
>> http://www.narcap.org/
>>
>> and will post a very brief note and link when they are finished with their
>> O'Hare Case (November 7, 2006) Report, which is only awaiting a late FOIA
>> document.
>>
>> The site is interesting, and the O'Hare report promises to be as well,
>> especially in the way the FAA and other official agencies handled it (or
>> didn't), at least publicly.
>>
>> Thanks much for the message, Dave!
>>
>> We now return you to your regular verifiable aircraft, which are already
>> in progress -- everywhere!
>>
>>
>> "Al"
>>
>> :^)
>>
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the also interesting reply to my reply ....
>
> I love to look at my Google Earth showing Area 51. I have a 21" LCD
> monitor

I've got a 21.4" !

> with my Linux box

That too!

> "The Mighty Wurlitzer"

Yeah, that was a Wurlitzer slogan, as was "Gee, Dad, it's a Wurlitzer!"

However, "The Giant Wurlitzer" was/is the CIA's affectionate name for the
New York Times, because "They'll play any tune we ask them to." Not a
comforting thought.

> and you may be sure
> that I have been over every inch. Can't see under ground, however, to
> the Great Hive.
>
> Oh well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave

What I want to know (and likely never will) is what these bedeviling
huge Triangular things are. About half seem to be just-around-the-corner
earthbound technology -- even Aviation Week has suggested a Skunkworks
anti-grav discovery -- and the other half, absolutely not, unless we also
discovered transmogrification.

Take care, fellow Penguin Rider!


Al

(Someday I'll be 'A1')

Bruce R
May 5th 07, 01:29 PM
"Byron Covey" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
>

Nice BBQ grill !


Bruce R

CWO4 Dave Mann
May 5th 07, 05:47 PM
Al Grey wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2007 20:50:31 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
>
>> Al Grey wrote:
>>> On Thu, 03 May 2007 14:05:22 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Al Grey wrote:
>>>>> http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/INVADERS%20UFO%20PAGE.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Meant to suggest a classic "UFO," the Invaders' Saucer was clearly
>>>>> inspired by the "Venusian" saucers photographed by self-proclaimed
>>>>> alien abductee George Adamski who published several books about his
>>>>> cosmic adventures during the late 1940s to mid-1950s. It was
>>>>> subsequently revealed that the "Venusian" spacecraft he'd photographed
>>>>> was actually part of an automatic chicken-feeder.
>>>>>
>>>>> - 30 -
>>>> Mr Adamski was a really affable and friendly old man when I met him. My
>>>> mother knew him from the Point Loma Theosophy Society in San Diego.
>>> Hi Dave!
>>>
>>> Yeah, Adamski was deeply into all things 'unusual' for many years:
>>>
>>> "In 1921 he lectured philosophy in California. Adamski founded the
>>> monestary of the 'Royal Order of Tibet' at Laguna Beach in 1934, where he
>>> taught 'Universal Laws' and 'Universal Progressive Christianity'. At this
>>> time his students gave him the title 'Professor'. For the record, Adamski
>>> never claimed to be an academic professor."
>>>
>>> As the last sentence illustrates, he was an odd mixture. He made his wild
>>> claims, yet never really tried to milk it dry. He really didn't have to.
>>>
>>> He /did/ receive preferential treatment from certain 'official'
>>> organizations, but my personal feeling it that this was part-in-parcel
>>> with the Batelle Institute's study of 1952(?), whose recommendation was to
>>> 'demystify' the UFO problem. Focusing on the wild and unsupported claims
>>> was part of this, and ignoring or 'pseudo-explaining' truly puzzling cases
>>> (especially from military sources, primarily from the USAF and other
>>> airborne sources) was an integral part of this.
>>>
>>> And it worked all too well.
>>>
>>>
>>>> After he wrote his "Inside" book we drove up to Alpine, CA to visit him.
>>>> I was about 12 at the time and was really into reading sci fi. I
>>>> can't remember what I talked about but I was absolutely fascinated to
>>>> hear his very detailed explanation of his "trip"
>>>>
>>>> Wow! I hadn't thought about that since I don't know when .. thanks for
>>>> bringing the Adamski Chicken Feeder into the picture (pun, sorry).
>>>
>>> This is another interesting l'il episode like the chicken feeder:
>>>
>>> "The Water Cooler Episode of 1975
>>>
>>> "A sizable photograph in the London Evening News of September 19th, 1975,
>>> depicted the chairman of the British UFO Society, Mr. Rogers holding up
>>> the top of a bottle cooler discovered by an associate Mr. Lawrence,
>>> acquired in an Italian restaurant in London. Apparently the lid or shade
>>> of this device was similar in shape to the famous "Bell Shaped Scout
>>> spacecraft" photographed all the over the world and by the late George
>>> Adamski. Claiming disappointment and disillusionment, the implication was
>>> made that Adamski had used such a bottle cooler, constructed in Wigan,
>>> Lancashire, as the model for his pictures.
>>>
>>> Adamski skeptics and detractors, alongside a grateful Press greedily
>>> seized the opportunity to once again rush to judgment and debunk both
>>> Adamski and the entire subject.
>>>
>>> Evening News: "Flying saucer phoney & how he did it."
>>> Evening Standard: "The lid comes of a UFO mystery."
>>> Scottish Daily News: "Flying saucer made in Wigan."
>>> Daily Mirror: "The UFO made in Wigan."
>>> Northampton Chronicle: "UFO found in London."
>>>
>>> However, on the September 20th broadcast of the BBC Radio News Magazine, a
>>> Mr. Frank Nicholson, a refrigerator engineer, came forward proving that he
>>> was the actual designer of the bottle cooler in question. Having designed
>>> it in 1959, at least six years after the first publication of the Adamski
>>> photographs, Nicholson contended that he actually used the Adamski photos
>>> as the inspiration for his invention and definitely not the other way
>>> around, as so erroneously and irresponsibly implied.
>>>
>>> Only two Papers were responsible enough to print retractions. On September
>>> 23rd issue of the Daily Mirror printed, " The famous flying saucer picture
>>> is not a fake at all." And the September 22 issue of the Bristol Evening
>>> Post ran, " Down to Earth with a bang."
>>>
>>> OK, back to reality!
>>>
>>> I have not posted any UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) reports here,
>>> and certainly would not unless asked. But I do work closely with a /very/
>>> good and serious air-safety organization called NARCAP (National Aviation
>>> Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena)
>>>
>>> http://www.narcap.org/
>>>
>>> and will post a very brief note and link when they are finished with their
>>> O'Hare Case (November 7, 2006) Report, which is only awaiting a late FOIA
>>> document.
>>>
>>> The site is interesting, and the O'Hare report promises to be as well,
>>> especially in the way the FAA and other official agencies handled it (or
>>> didn't), at least publicly.
>>>
>>> Thanks much for the message, Dave!
>>>
>>> We now return you to your regular verifiable aircraft, which are already
>>> in progress -- everywhere!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Al"
>>>
>>> :^)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the also interesting reply to my reply ....
>>
>> I love to look at my Google Earth showing Area 51. I have a 21" LCD
>> monitor
>
> I've got a 21.4" !
>
>> with my Linux box
>
> That too!
>
>> "The Mighty Wurlitzer"
>
> Yeah, that was a Wurlitzer slogan, as was "Gee, Dad, it's a Wurlitzer!"
>
> However, "The Giant Wurlitzer" was/is the CIA's affectionate name for the
> New York Times, because "They'll play any tune we ask them to." Not a
> comforting thought.
>
>> and you may be sure
>> that I have been over every inch. Can't see under ground, however, to
>> the Great Hive.
>>
>> Oh well.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>
> What I want to know (and likely never will) is what these bedeviling
> huge Triangular things are. About half seem to be just-around-the-corner
> earthbound technology -- even Aviation Week has suggested a Skunkworks
> anti-grav discovery -- and the other half, absolutely not, unless we also
> discovered transmogrification.
>
> Take care, fellow Penguin Rider!
>
>
> Al
>
> (Someday I'll be 'A1')
>
>

There are so many backgrounds for the screen .. this is my background of
the week. Someplace in Europe I think.

Cheers,

Dave

john smith[_2_]
May 6th 07, 03:25 AM
In article >,
Grumpy AuContraire > wrote:

> Hey... I'm a happy camper here in Austin runnin' an ancient G4 400 but
> the best part is the 22" Samsung recently acquired wide screen. Tons of
> "acreage" to put stuff!

Beige G3/333 with an ACER 22" LCD, here.

Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]
May 9th 07, 01:52 AM
john smith wrote:

> In article >,
> Grumpy AuContraire > wrote:
>
>
>>Hey... I'm a happy camper here in Austin runnin' an ancient G4 400 but
>>the best part is the 22" Samsung recently acquired wide screen. Tons of
>>"acreage" to put stuff!
>
>
> Beige G3/333 with an ACER 22" LCD, here.


A couple of years ago, I bought a dual 500Mhz G4 that was bare and with
a bad (intermittent) power supply for a mere $30. Just recently, I
discovered that it was a Gigabit (same as mine) which has renewed my
interest in getting it going. Memory ordered, HD installed and keepin'
an eye out for a PS.

I love these old solid clunkers...

JT

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