Operation Glacier text

[Netko]

The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.

In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
stronghold in Helmand Province.

To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
the Royal Engineers.

As the Apache has no spare seats, they had to be strapped on to the
outside of the helicopter, one on each wing.

A third Apache provided support.

It turned out that Lance Corporal Ford had been killed so the four
recovered his body and went out the way they had come in. They
were on the ground for about five minutes, part of the time under
fire.

The detailed story is on the MoD's web site at:

http://tinyurl.com/3a5u5r

If you haven't already seen it, I've also upped MoD's brief video
to alt.binaries.multimedia.aviation.

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[Alan Erskine]

"Netko" > wrote in message
x.com...
> The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
> Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
> and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.
>
> In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
> Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
> an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
> stronghold in Helmand Province.
>
> To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
> total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
> the Royal Engineers.

But why use the Apache? Why not use their Lynx's?


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Alan Erskine

[Alan Erskine]

"Netko" > wrote in message
x.com...
> The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
> Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
> and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.
>
> In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
> Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
> an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
> stronghold in Helmand Province.
>
> To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
> total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
> the Royal Engineers.

But why use the Apache? Why not use their Lynx's?


--
Alan Erskine

[Paul Elliot]

Alan Erskine wrote:
> "Netko" > wrote in message
> x.com...
>> The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
>> Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
>> and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.
>>
>> In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
>> Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
>> an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
>> stronghold in Helmand Province.
>>
>> To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
>> total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
>> the Royal Engineers.
>
> But why use the Apache? Why not use their Lynx's?
>
>
> --
> Alan Erskine
>
>
>

Firepower?

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[Paul Elliot]

Alan Erskine wrote:
> "Netko" > wrote in message
> x.com...
>> The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
>> Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
>> and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.
>>
>> In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
>> Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
>> an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
>> stronghold in Helmand Province.
>>
>> To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
>> total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
>> the Royal Engineers.
>
> But why use the Apache? Why not use their Lynx's?
>
>
> --
> Alan Erskine
>
>
>

Firepower?

--
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/

[Paul Elliot]

Alan Erskine wrote:
> "Netko" > wrote in message
> x.com...
>> The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
>> Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
>> and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.
>>
>> In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
>> Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
>> an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
>> stronghold in Helmand Province.
>>
>> To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
>> total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
>> the Royal Engineers.
>
> But why use the Apache? Why not use their Lynx's?
>
>
> --
> Alan Erskine
>
>
>

Perhaps that was what was available on short notice.

--
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/

[Paul Elliot]

Alan Erskine wrote:
> "Netko" > wrote in message
> x.com...
>> The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
>> Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
>> and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.
>>
>> In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
>> Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
>> an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
>> stronghold in Helmand Province.
>>
>> To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
>> total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
>> the Royal Engineers.
>
> But why use the Apache? Why not use their Lynx's?
>
>
> --
> Alan Erskine
>
>
>

Perhaps that was what was available on short notice.

--
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/

[Netko]

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:02:23 +0000, Paul Elliot wrote
(in message >):

> Perhaps that was what was available on short notice.

The nearest Lynx is in Iraq. The British Army only has Apaches in
Afghanistan. They considered using an RAF Chinook which was to
hand, as well as a ground attempt using Vikings. However, the fort
area was still in the hands of the Taliban so the Apache was chosen
because it was smaller, faster and better armed.

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[Netko]

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:02:23 +0000, Paul Elliot wrote
(in message >):

> Perhaps that was what was available on short notice.

The nearest Lynx is in Iraq. The British Army only has Apaches in
Afghanistan. They considered using an RAF Chinook which was to
hand, as well as a ground attempt using Vikings. However, the fort
area was still in the hands of the Taliban so the Apache was chosen
because it was smaller, faster and better armed.

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[Jaroslaw Manek]

U¿ytkownik "Alan Erskine" > napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
> "Netko" > wrote in message
> x.com...
> > The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
> > Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -

> But why use the Apache? Why not use their Lynx's?

Or Mi-24 ;-)

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Jaroslaw Manek
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[Jaroslaw Manek]

U¿ytkownik "Alan Erskine" > napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
> "Netko" > wrote in message
> x.com...
> > The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
> > Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -

> But why use the Apache? Why not use their Lynx's?

Or Mi-24 ;-)

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Regards
Jaroslaw Manek
-----------------------
www.aero-foto.pl

[Jim Maserang]

Netko > wrote in
x.com:

> The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
> Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
> and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.
>
> In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
> Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
> an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
> stronghold in Helmand Province.
>
> To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
> total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
> the Royal Engineers.
>
> As the Apache has no spare seats, they had to be strapped on to the
> outside of the helicopter, one on each wing.
>
> A third Apache provided support.
>
> It turned out that Lance Corporal Ford had been killed so the four
> recovered his body and went out the way they had come in. They
> were on the ground for about five minutes, part of the time under
> fire.
>
God bless the Royal Marines.
Gunny Maz

[Jim Maserang]

Netko > wrote in
x.com:

> The UK's Ministry of Defence has released some shots of an
> Apache-borne attempt to recover a missing Marine in Afghanistan -
> and I'm about to post them here for anyone who's interested.
>
> In brief, a Royal Marine - Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45
> Commando - was found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after
> an (apparently unsuccessful) assault on Jugroom Fort, a Taliban
> stronghold in Helmand Province.
>
> To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with a
> total of four passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from
> the Royal Engineers.
>
> As the Apache has no spare seats, they had to be strapped on to the
> outside of the helicopter, one on each wing.
>
> A third Apache provided support.
>
> It turned out that Lance Corporal Ford had been killed so the four
> recovered his body and went out the way they had come in. They
> were on the ground for about five minutes, part of the time under
> fire.
>
God bless the Royal Marines.
Gunny Maz

[Netko]

Some more pictures released by the MoD from the Apache-borne
attempt to recover a missing British Marine in Afghanistan. I
posted some others about a month ago.

You may recall that Lance Corporal Mathew Ford of 45 Commando was
found to be missing during Operation Glacier, after an unsuccessful
assault on a Taliban stronghold in Helmand Province.

To recover him, two Army Air Corps Apaches flew back in with four
passengers, three from the Royal Marines and one from the Royal
Engineers. As the Apache has no spare seats, they had to be
strapped on to the outside of the helicopters.

A third Apache provided support.

It turned out that Lance Corporal Ford had been killed so they
recovered his body and went out the way they had come in. They
were on the ground for about five minutes, part of the time under
fire.

This first picture shows the volunteers being briefed by an Apache
pilot of the Army Air Corps.


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