Hire of aircraft in France

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Hello folks,
I will be in Paris in about a fortnights time and was hoping that I
could hire an aircraft to do some private flying. Somewhere to the
north or northeast in preference. The license side I have already
sorted out.
I have found a few aeroclubs in the area which seem to be OK, but they
generally want a joining fee of 100+ Euros. Since I will likely only
have a day or so spare I was wondering if there are any straight hire
and fly places.

Any (helpful!) comments welcome.

Regards
C. Brooks

[Viperdoc[_4_]]

Call Mxsmanic- he lives in Paris and would be glad to give you a ride. Check
his posts on this and other newsgroups.

[Sylvain]

Viperdoc wrote:

> Call Mxsmanic- he lives in Paris and would be glad to give you a ride.
> Check his posts on this and other newsgroups.

alternatively, post your question on fr.rec.aviation; to avoid
starting a flamewar from people who don't like foreign languages (:-))
you can either place a [ANG] tag at the beginning of the title,
or post it in French (I'd be happy to translate)

--Sylvain

[Stefan]

schrieb:

> I have found a few aeroclubs in the area which seem to be OK, but they
> generally want a joining fee of 100+ Euros.

In Europe in general and in France in particular, most private flying is
done on a club basis. Hence to rent such a club plane, you must become a
member of the aeroclub. The reasons are such as taxes (the club looses
its tax privileges when it runs a commercial business such as renting to
non-members), but also insurance and the like. Usually the joining fee
is something like 100 Euros for a one year membership.

There are some commercial renters (mostly training facilities), but not
many. I second Silvain's advice to ask in the French aviation group, as
there tend to be some native French there.

[Chris]

In Europe most flying places are clubs - the US style FBO with aircraft for
hire is rare. The joining fee gets you insurance which for ¢æ100 is good
value. There is no way anyone any club would let you carry an excess on
their aircraft.

If you fly from local fields, then I hope your French is good because they
don't tend to speak English in the pattern.

An English accent might just be tolerated but an American English accent
bursting onto the airwaves will be treated as static.

The best thing to do is to try speaking French first, be so bad at it that
they start speaking English. Extra brownie points for that and at least it
shows some respect for the French.

cb


> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hello folks,
> I will be in Paris in about a fortnights time and was hoping that I
> could hire an aircraft to do some private flying. Somewhere to the
> north or northeast in preference. The license side I have already
> sorted out.
> I have found a few aeroclubs in the area which seem to be OK, but they
> generally want a joining fee of 100+ Euros. Since I will likely only
> have a day or so spare I was wondering if there are any straight hire
> and fly places.
>
> Any (helpful!) comments welcome.
>
> Regards
> C. Brooks
>

[Jay Honeck]

> alternatively, post your question on fr.rec.aviation; to avoid
> starting a flamewar from people who don't like foreign languages (:-))

Your conclusion is diametrically opposed to reality. No one here
"dislikes" foreign languages.

Anyone flying in France should expect to be fluent in French. Anyone
who expects English in the U.S. would sympathize with this view.

"When in Rome..."
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Mxsmanic]

Chris writes:

> An English accent might just be tolerated but an American English accent
> bursting onto the airwaves will be treated as static.

American accents are treated no differently from English accents.

> The best thing to do is to try speaking French first, be so bad at it that
> they start speaking English. Extra brownie points for that and at least it
> shows some respect for the French.

If they don't speak English, pretending that you're willing to speak French
won't help.

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[Mxsmanic]

Nomen Nescio writes:

> If you were willing to break the legs of a certain american expatriot
> living in Paris, we might take up a collection to cover your joining
> fee and maybe even a couple of flying hours. :)

This is not the sort of post that you should be digitally signing.

--
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[Anno v. Heimburg]

Jay Honeck wrote:

>> alternatively, post your question on fr.rec.aviation; to avoid
>> starting a flamewar from people who don't like foreign languages (:-))
>
> Your conclusion is diametrically opposed to reality. No one here
> "dislikes" foreign languages.

I think Sylvain was referring to posting in English on a French NG, the
foreign language being English.

Anno.

[Viperdoc]

Perhaps he can't access the AF site because the NSA has been monitoring all
of his anti-American comments.

[Sylvain]

Anno v. Heimburg wrote:

> I think Sylvain was referring to posting in English on a French NG, the
> foreign language being English.

....and I was speaking in jest :-)

--Sylvain