Re: Corvette Assembly Plant & F-14's

[PreacherMan]

"Thundergod" > wrote in message
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> Thank you for the info..it's about time that GM started to listen to their
> buyers concerns. Some times I wonder if any one at GM actually drives the
> cars they design....some of the features are useless and stupid whereas
some
> things that could aid a driver are lacking.
>
> When I worked on the F-14 design team we were super careful to listen all
> the users comments /suggestions .


what part of the Turkey were you involved with ?
(and was that the A/B/C or D variant).

[John Carrier]

"PreacherMan" > wrote in message
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> "Thundergod" > wrote in message
> link.net...
>> Thank you for the info..it's about time that GM started to listen to
>> their
>> buyers concerns. Some times I wonder if any one at GM actually drives the
>> cars they design....some of the features are useless and stupid whereas
> some
>> things that could aid a driver are lacking.
>>
>> When I worked on the F-14 design team we were super careful to listen all
>> the users comments /suggestions .
>
>
> what part of the Turkey were you involved with ?
> (and was that the A/B/C or D variant).

From my perspective as squadron aviator and then as NADEP project officer,
Grumman was not particularly interested in user input. That may have been
because the marketing department kept the users and the engineers well
segregated.

R / John

[qui si parla Campagnolo]

On Feb 18, 7:08 pm, "John Carrier" > wrote:
> "PreacherMan" > wrote in message
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> > "Thundergod" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> >> Thank you for the info..it's about time that GM started to listen to
> >> their
> >> buyers concerns. Some times I wonder if any one at GM actually drives the
> >> cars they design....some of the features are useless and stupid whereas
> > some
> >> things that could aid a driver are lacking.
>
> >> When I worked on the F-14 design team we were super careful to listen all
> >> the users comments /suggestions .
>
> > what part of the Turkey were you involved with ?
> > (and was that the A/B/C or D variant).
>
> From my perspective as squadron aviator and then as NADEP project officer,
> Grumman was not particularly interested in user input. That may have been
> because the marketing department kept the users and the engineers well
> segregated.
>
> R / John

As a fleet user(VF-31) and guy who flew operational test(VX-4) in the
thing, I have to agree. The only A/C I have flown that seemed to have
the pilot and maintainer in mind was the F-16(VF-126).

[Harry Andreas]

In article . com>, "qui
si parla Campagnolo" > wrote:

> On Feb 18, 7:08 pm, "John Carrier" > wrote:
> > "PreacherMan" > wrote in message

> > >> When I worked on the F-14 design team we were super careful to listen all
> > >> the users comments /suggestions .
> >
> > > what part of the Turkey were you involved with ?
> > > (and was that the A/B/C or D variant).
> >
> > From my perspective as squadron aviator and then as NADEP project officer,
> > Grumman was not particularly interested in user input. That may have been
> > because the marketing department kept the users and the engineers well
> > segregated.
> >
> > R / John
>
> As a fleet user(VF-31) and guy who flew operational test(VX-4) in the
> thing, I have to agree. The only A/C I have flown that seemed to have
> the pilot and maintainer in mind was the F-16(VF-126).

Do you have any time in the F/A-18 (any version)?

We spent significant amounts of engineering time making (our part)
of the bird maintainable.
"They" told us at the time that it was the first bird to be so designed.

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur