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[Netko]

I thought these might be of interest here - a fairly arbitrary
selection of USAF pictures of B-52s for no particular reason other
than that I'd drawn them togther.

You may have seen all, some or none of them before.

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[gregfarr[_2_]]

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:19:20 +0000, Netko >
wrote:

>I thought these might be of interest here - a fairly arbitrary
>selection of USAF pictures of B-52s for no particular reason other
>than that I'd drawn them togther.
>
>You may have seen all, some or none of them before.


T hanks for these;-)

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1

[Allan9]

Thanks
Al

"Netko" > wrote in message
x.com...
>I thought these might be of interest here - a fairly arbitrary
> selection of USAF pictures of B-52s for no particular reason other
> than that I'd drawn them togther.
>
> You may have seen all, some or none of them before.
>
> --
>

[Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]]

DAN wrote:

> Netko wrote:
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>
>>I thought these might be of interest here
>
>
> I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
> Notice the firemen crew.
>
>

Sure looks like Diego Garcia to me!

Returning aircraft obviously...

JT

(Fond memories at NKW)

[Fidel Perez]

"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>
> DAN wrote:
>
>> Netko wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I thought these might be of interest here
>>
>>
>> I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
>> Notice the firemen crew.
>>
>>
>
> Sure looks like Diego Garcia to me!
>
> Returning aircraft obviously...
>
> JT
>
> (Fond memories at NKW)

Returning aircraft? Full PBRs and the drogue chute door is closed! I don't
think so.

[Peavey_HP_Signature_Guy]

Yep...wings a little heavy...

"DAN" > wrote in message
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> Netko wrote:
>
>>I thought these might be of interest here
>
> I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
> Notice the firemen crew.
>
>
>
>

[Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]]

Fidel Perez wrote:

> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>
>>
>>DAN wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Netko wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I thought these might be of interest here
>>>
>>>
>>>I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
>>>Notice the firemen crew.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Sure looks like Diego Garcia to me!
>>
>>Returning aircraft obviously...
>>
>>JT
>>
>>(Fond memories at NKW)
>
>
> Returning aircraft? Full PBRs and the drogue chute door is closed! I don't
> think so.
>
>


If it is Diego, the aircraft is traveling north at the end of a 12,000+
runway. Maybe I should have said "arriving."

JT

[Alan B. Martin]

Here's the official caption from the AF website.

OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM -- Ground crew members wave at a B-52H
Stratofortress bomber as it taxis for take off on a strike mission against
al Qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the Taliban
regime in Afghanistan on Oct. 7, 2001, during Operation Enduring Freedom.
The carefully targeted actions are designed to disrupt the use of
Afghanistan as a base for terrorist operations and to attack the military
capability of the Taliban regime. (U.S. Air Force photo by Senior Airman
Rebeca M.

Al
"DAN" > wrote in message
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> Netko wrote:
>
>>I thought these might be of interest here
>
> I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
> Notice the firemen crew.
>
>
>
>

[muff528]

"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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> Fidel Perez wrote:
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>> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>>
>>>
>>>DAN wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Netko wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I thought these might be of interest here
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
>>>>Notice the firemen crew.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sure looks like Diego Garcia to me!
>>>
>>>Returning aircraft obviously...
>>>
>>>JT
>>>
>>>(Fond memories at NKW)
>>
>>
>> Returning aircraft? Full PBRs and the drogue chute door is closed! I
>> don't think so.
>
>
> If it is Diego, the aircraft is traveling north at the end of a 12,000+
> runway. Maybe I should have said "arriving."
>
> JT
>
>

Wow! -- by comparing the photo with the "Google Maps" aerial view of DG the
position of the a/c can be
approximated. It looks like it's pointed NW and is just south of the halfway
point of the taxiway. I compared
features such as the mowed grassy area on the far side of the road in the
background and the white sandy corner
as well as runway stripes to make my guess. It looks like the photo was
taken approx due south. From the shadow
position it appears to be mid afternoon. From the shape of the "grassy
island" under the right wing, my guess
is that the photo was taken from the area just to the NW of that patch of
grass where the "big pond" is.

Tony P.

[Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]]

muff528 wrote:

> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Fidel Perez wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>>>DAN wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Netko wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought these might be of interest here
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
>>>>>Notice the firemen crew.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sure looks like Diego Garcia to me!
>>>>
>>>>Returning aircraft obviously...
>>>>
>>>>JT
>>>>
>>>>(Fond memories at NKW)
>>>
>>>
>>>Returning aircraft? Full PBRs and the drogue chute door is closed! I
>>>don't think so.
>>
>>
>>If it is Diego, the aircraft is traveling north at the end of a 12,000+
>>runway. Maybe I should have said "arriving."
>>
>>JT
>>
>>
>
>
> Wow! -- by comparing the photo with the "Google Maps" aerial view of DG the
> position of the a/c can be
> approximated. It looks like it's pointed NW and is just south of the halfway
> point of the taxiway. I compared
> features such as the mowed grassy area on the far side of the road in the
> background and the white sandy corner
> as well as runway stripes to make my guess. It looks like the photo was
> taken approx due south. From the shadow
> position it appears to be mid afternoon. From the shape of the "grassy
> island" under the right wing, my guess
> is that the photo was taken from the area just to the NW of that patch of
> grass where the "big pond" is.
>
> Tony P.
>

You might well be right as it's been nearly fifteen years since my last
contract out there. I'm on dialup and Google map stuff is much too
painstaking for me.

I might try at a friend's house on Monday though.

JT

[Gunny Jim]

>
> I might try at a friend's house on Monday though.
>
> JT
>
>
>

[muff528]

"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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> muff528 wrote:
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>> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>>
>>>
>>>Fidel Perez wrote:
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>>>
>>>>"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>DAN wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Netko wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I thought these might be of interest here
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
>>>>>>Notice the firemen crew.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sure looks like Diego Garcia to me!
>>>>>
>>>>>Returning aircraft obviously...
>>>>>
>>>>>JT
>>>>>
>>>>>(Fond memories at NKW)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Returning aircraft? Full PBRs and the drogue chute door is closed! I
>>>>don't think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>If it is Diego, the aircraft is traveling north at the end of a 12,000+
>>>runway. Maybe I should have said "arriving."
>>>
>>>JT
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Wow! -- by comparing the photo with the "Google Maps" aerial view of DG
>> the position of the a/c can be
>> approximated. It looks like it's pointed NW and is just south of the
>> halfway point of the taxiway. I compared
>> features such as the mowed grassy area on the far side of the road in the
>> background and the white sandy corner
>> as well as runway stripes to make my guess. It looks like the photo was
>> taken approx due south. From the shadow
>> position it appears to be mid afternoon. From the shape of the "grassy
>> island" under the right wing, my guess
>> is that the photo was taken from the area just to the NW of that patch of
>> grass where the "big pond" is.
>>
>> Tony P.
>
> You might well be right as it's been nearly fifteen years since my last
> contract out there. I'm on dialup and Google map stuff is much too
> painstaking for me.
>
> I might try at a friend's house on Monday though.
>
> JT
>
>

Here's a direct link to the google map image. Hope this is quick enough for
your connection.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=&z=16&ll=-7.314029,72.417347&spn=0.00979,0.014462&t=h&om=1

BTW- This looks like a great spot for some offshore fishing action! I
noticed some
small craft anchored in the harbor :-)

-TP

[Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]]

Gunny Jim wrote:

Pic



I think that's a pretty old pic that even precedes the time that I was
there. I'm looking through my files for some pics shot in late '92 which
show a radar tower (that never worked) that was situated about midway
down on the road side of the large parking apron. Also, a lot of pads
were in place for temporary structures (tents) for billeting, messing
and logistics for the Air Force.

After a little search, I found this shot that was taken in the early
1990's. It is a high view looking south. The tower I mentioned is
evident about half way down the road.

JT

[Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]]

muff528 wrote:

> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>>muff528 wrote:
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>>>"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>>Fidel Perez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>DAN wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Netko wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought these might be of interest here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I like this one: the first BUFF to take it to the Talibans after 9/11.
>>>>>>>Notice the firemen crew.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sure looks like Diego Garcia to me!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Returning aircraft obviously...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(Fond memories at NKW)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Returning aircraft? Full PBRs and the drogue chute door is closed! I
>>>>>don't think so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If it is Diego, the aircraft is traveling north at the end of a 12,000+
>>>>runway. Maybe I should have said "arriving."
>>>>
>>>>JT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Wow! -- by comparing the photo with the "Google Maps" aerial view of DG
>>>the position of the a/c can be
>>>approximated. It looks like it's pointed NW and is just south of the
>>>halfway point of the taxiway. I compared
>>>features such as the mowed grassy area on the far side of the road in the
>>>background and the white sandy corner
>>>as well as runway stripes to make my guess. It looks like the photo was
>>>taken approx due south. From the shadow
>>>position it appears to be mid afternoon. From the shape of the "grassy
>>>island" under the right wing, my guess
>>>is that the photo was taken from the area just to the NW of that patch of
>>>grass where the "big pond" is.
>>>
>>>Tony P.
>>
>>You might well be right as it's been nearly fifteen years since my last
>>contract out there. I'm on dialup and Google map stuff is much too
>>painstaking for me.
>>
>>I might try at a friend's house on Monday though.
>>
>>JT
>>
>>
>
>
> Here's a direct link to the google map image. Hope this is quick enough for
> your connection.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=&z=16&ll=-7.314029,72.417347&spn=0.00979,0.014462&t=h&om=1
>
> BTW- This looks like a great spot for some offshore fishing action! I
> noticed some
> small craft anchored in the harbor :-)
>
> -TP
>
>


Thanks! It worked great and in fact I'm going to send the link to my
friend who also worked out there when I did.

It really shows the new construction and I believe those four "balloon"
hangars are for B-2 bombers, yes?

BTW, I don't really have any interest in fishing but have been an avid
SCUBA diver but the friggin' Brits wouldn't allow sport diving. Even
chickens, cats 'n donkeys were "protected" animals out there...

JT

[Wayne Paul]

Here is the current Google Earth image.

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/

"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Gunny Jim wrote:
>
> Pic
>
>
>
> I think that's a pretty old pic that even precedes the time that I was
> there. I'm looking through my files for some pics shot in late '92 which
> show a radar tower (that never worked) that was situated about midway
> down on the road side of the large parking apron. Also, a lot of pads
> were in place for temporary structures (tents) for billeting, messing
> and logistics for the Air Force.
>
> After a little search, I found this shot that was taken in the early
> 1990's. It is a high view looking south. The tower I mentioned is
> evident about half way down the road.
>
> JT
>

[muff528]

I notice, by "exploring" the island through Google Maps, that there is a lot
of vegetation
that is growing in straight lines, particularly on the eastern leg of the
atoll. I wonder if
this is an agricultural endeavor, ie groves or orchards of some sort. I
suppose they could
have also been planted to replace harvested timber or for wind breaks. Or
maybe it could
be some species that naturally grows in straight rows and columns. :-)

Also - I don't recall Diego Garcia being mentioned in the news during the
2004 tsunami
so I googled "diego garcia tsunami" and was interested to find that the
island largely
escaped damage primarily because of the topography of the surrounding ocean
floor.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/diego-garcia-imagery-3.htm

A lot of interesting info concerning the tsunami and DG....including
"conspiracy theories", etc.
There is a lot of satellite imagery of the base taken at different times. I
noticed a lack of
fighter aircraft in all images I've seen. I would have thought there would
be a contingent of
fighters for defense of the base. Maybe it's considered unnecessary given
the remote location.

[Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]]

muff528 wrote:

> I notice, by "exploring" the island through Google Maps, that there is a lot
> of vegetation
> that is growing in straight lines, particularly on the eastern leg of the
> atoll. I wonder if
> this is an agricultural endeavor, ie groves or orchards of some sort. I
> suppose they could
> have also been planted to replace harvested timber or for wind breaks. Or
> maybe it could
> be some species that naturally grows in straight rows and columns. :-)
>


The east side of the island is the location of the old plantation which
even had a small railroad. (See attached pic of a Brit security guy with
their mascot). I have a number of aerial photos stashed showing good
shots of the plantation house and other buildings most of which are or
have been restored with "volunteer" labor.



> Also - I don't recall Diego Garcia being mentioned in the news during the
> 2004 tsunami
> so I googled "diego garcia tsunami" and was interested to find that the
> island largely
> escaped damage primarily because of the topography of the surrounding ocean
> floor.
>

Atolls are not prone to tsunamis due to the depth of the surrounding
ocean and the lack of a gradually rising off shore shelf. Diego
probably got an eight inch wave. I remember on Kwajalein back in the
early 1970's when we got all of a 12 inch wave.

Diego however is in an active seismic activity area and had a
significant earthquake in the mid 1980's and all buildings are
constructed to be seismic resistant.



> http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/diego-garcia-imagery-3.htm
>
> A lot of interesting info concerning the tsunami and DG....including
> "conspiracy theories", etc.
> There is a lot of satellite imagery of the base taken at different times. I
> noticed a lack of
> fighter aircraft in all images I've seen. I would have thought there would
> be a contingent of
> fighters for defense of the base. Maybe it's considered unnecessary given
> the remote location.
>


There is a large pre positioned fleet that resides at Diego and they
probably put out to sea as a precaution. Google COMPSRON 2.

JT

[Papa Fox]

Notice just to the left of the 4 "buble" hangers, there are scorch
marks from apparently engine starts. Where the 52's and 135's are
parked you can see additional scorch marks. What puzzles me is that
the scorch marks nearest and to the left of the leftmost bubble hanger
seem to be from an a/c pointed the "wrong" way compared to the rest of
the a/c in the picture. P.

On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:37:06 -0700, "Wayne Paul" >
wrote:

>Here is the current Google Earth image.
>
>Wayne
>http://www.soaridaho.com/
>
>"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> Gunny Jim wrote:
>>
>> Pic
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that's a pretty old pic that even precedes the time that I was
>> there. I'm looking through my files for some pics shot in late '92 which
>> show a radar tower (that never worked) that was situated about midway
>> down on the road side of the large parking apron. Also, a lot of pads
>> were in place for temporary structures (tents) for billeting, messing
>> and logistics for the Air Force.
>>
>> After a little search, I found this shot that was taken in the early
>> 1990's. It is a high view looking south. The tower I mentioned is
>> evident about half way down the road.
>>
>> JT
>>
>

[muff528]

"Papa Fox" > wrote in message
...
> Notice just to the left of the 4 "buble" hangers, there are scorch
> marks from apparently engine starts. Where the 52's and 135's are
> parked you can see additional scorch marks. What puzzles me is that
> the scorch marks nearest and to the left of the leftmost bubble hanger
> seem to be from an a/c pointed the "wrong" way compared to the rest of
> the a/c in the picture. P.
>

Here's a shot showing 2 B-1's parked "the wrong way", one of which is in
that very slot. Maybe they don't want to smoke that little shed just off the
ramp :-)
Plenty of room to park somewhere else, though.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/diego-garcia_20050101_05.htm