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Marco Leon
March 1st 07, 09:11 PM
Are there any private and/or moderated forums that are popular among
many of the posters to r.a.p.? Maybe AOPA's forum?

I use Google for firewall reasons so I frustratingly do not have
filtering capability.

Marco

Peter R.
March 1st 07, 09:56 PM
On 3/1/2007 4:11:42 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

> I use Google for firewall reasons so I frustratingly do not have
> filtering capability.

Giganews provides Usenet on port 80 (the same as http), or what I call the
"work" firewall buster, and you could get an account for relatively cheap if
all you do is download text. With that you could then get a free, robust,
client-based news reader to filter the nonsense.

Hate to see you go, Marco, as I always enjoy your posts.


--
Peter

Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
March 1st 07, 10:39 PM
Peter R. wrote:
> On 3/1/2007 4:11:42 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:
>
>> I use Google for firewall reasons so I frustratingly do not have
>> filtering capability.
>
> Giganews provides Usenet on port 80 (the same as http), or what I call the
> "work" firewall buster, and you could get an account for relatively cheap if
> all you do is download text. With that you could then get a free, robust,
> client-based news reader to filter the nonsense.


I get GigaNews for about $8 a month. Since I don't download binaries, I'm just
scratching the surface at useage. I've got a tremendous amount of bandwidth I'm
not even using.

I could use my ISP (Road Runner) usenet capability but I've found they're pretty
clueless at how to run a reliable news server. With GigaNews, it's they're only
business, so they're damned good at it. Extremely reliable.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Jose
March 1st 07, 11:32 PM
> Are there any private and/or moderated forums that are popular among
> many of the posters to r.a.p.?

There are other forums, but many of them are just r.a.p in drag. They
provide a portal and advertisements, and serve up our posts.

Jose
--
Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

wrxpilot
March 2nd 07, 01:24 AM
On Mar 1, 4:32 pm, Jose > wrote:
> > Are there any private and/or moderated forums that are popular among
> > many of the posters to r.a.p.?
>
> There are other forums, but many of them are just r.a.p in drag. They
> provide a portal and advertisements, and serve up our posts.
>
> Jose
> --
> Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
> follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
> understands this holds the world in his hands.
> for Email, make the obvious change in the address.


www.studentpilot.com

Brad[_1_]
March 2nd 07, 02:11 AM
On Mar 1, 4:11 pm, "Marco Leon" > wrote:
> Are there any private and/or moderated forums that are popular among
> many of the posters to r.a.p.? Maybe AOPA's forum?
>
> I use Google for firewall reasons so I frustratingly do not have
> filtering capability.
>
> Marco

I've been on AOPA forums, which at least requires membership...

Jay Honeck
March 2nd 07, 03:15 AM
> Are there any private and/or moderated forums that are popular among
> many of the posters to r.a.p.? Maybe AOPA's forum?
>
> I use Google for firewall reasons so I frustratingly do not have
> filtering capability.

Cherokee Pilots Association's "Cherokee Chat" and the Cherokee 235/236
groups are quite excellent, for the Cherokee Drivers in the group.
(Although they, too, have had their share of flame wars and trolls.)

I've looked at AOPA's stuff, and other smaller flying portals, but
none offer the wide range of experience and expertise that
rec.aviation does.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Beckman
March 2nd 07, 06:35 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Are there any private and/or moderated forums that are popular among
>> many of the posters to r.a.p.? Maybe AOPA's forum?
>>
>> I use Google for firewall reasons so I frustratingly do not have
>> filtering capability.
>
> Cherokee Pilots Association's "Cherokee Chat" and the Cherokee 235/236
> groups are quite excellent, for the Cherokee Drivers in the group.
> (Although they, too, have had their share of flame wars and trolls.)
>
> I've looked at AOPA's stuff, and other smaller flying portals, but
> none offer the wide range of experience and expertise that
> rec.aviation does.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

Be it real or imagined...

Jay B

Marco Leon
March 2nd 07, 03:13 PM
On Mar 1, 4:56 pm, "Peter R." > wrote:
> Giganews provides Usenet on port 80 (the same as http), or what I call the
> "work" firewall buster, and you could get an account for relatively cheap if
> all you do is download text. With that you could then get a free, robust,
> client-based news reader to filter the nonsense.

Well, you learn something every day, don't you????

I've had a giganews account for a while now. I didn't know they
allowed port 80.

It will feel like getting rid of a lingering cold. Thanks Peter!

Marco

Marco Leon
March 2nd 07, 03:20 PM
On Mar 1, 10:15 pm, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
> > Are there any private and/or moderated forums that are popular among
> > many of the posters to r.a.p.? Maybe AOPA's forum?
>
> > I use Google for firewall reasons so I frustratingly do not have
> > filtering capability.
>
> Cherokee Pilots Association's "Cherokee Chat" and the Cherokee 235/236
> groups are quite excellent, for the Cherokee Drivers in the group.
> (Although they, too, have had their share of flame wars and trolls.)
>
> I've looked at AOPA's stuff, and other smaller flying portals, but
> none offer the wide range of experience and expertise that
> rec.aviation does.

I get that feeling too when looking at the content of these other
forums. However, Peter informed me about the use of port 80 on a news
provider where I already have an account. Looks like I'm not going
anywhere just yet (you can cancel your appointment with your
therapist :-)).

I'm looking forward to some troll-free reading.

Marco

Marco Leon[_2_]
March 2nd 07, 03:59 PM
"Brad" > wrote in message
ps.com...

> I've been on AOPA forums, which at least requires membership...

That was my initial thought about possibly using a membership-only forum to
get rid of the riff raff but mx could easily join and get access. The fee
may make him miss a few meals however...

Marco

Peter R.
March 2nd 07, 04:09 PM
On 3/2/2007 10:13:00 AM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

> Well, you learn something every day, don't you????
>
> I've had a giganews account for a while now. I didn't know they
> allowed port 80.

From their FAQ:

8. Is my Giganews service available on any other ports besides 119?
Yes, you may also use ports 80 and 23 to access your Giganews account.

Great to see you had the solution right there all along. :) Now get that
filter built and get back in the game.

--
Peter

Marco Leon[_3_]
March 2nd 07, 04:25 PM
Man, this filter is NICE!

So clean...

"Peter R."
>
> Great to see you had the solution right there all along. :) Now get that
> filter built and get back in the game.
>
> --
> Peter

Morgans[_2_]
March 2nd 07, 06:05 PM
"Marco Leon" > wrote
>
> I've had a giganews account for a while now. I didn't know they
> allowed port 80.
>
> It will feel like getting rid of a lingering cold. Thanks Peter!

Yeah, thanks Peter.

I suppose we will be seeing a lot more posts from Marco, now! :-(

Just kidding! :-)
--
Jim in NC

Peter Clark
March 2nd 07, 06:46 PM
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:59:45 -0500, "Marco Leon" <mmleon(at)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>"Brad" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
>> I've been on AOPA forums, which at least requires membership...
>
>That was my initial thought about possibly using a membership-only forum to
>get rid of the riff raff but mx could easily join and get access. The fee
>may make him miss a few meals however...

Private forum wouldn't need to be fee. You can deny membership and
access to anyone you want to deny membership and access to. If he
showed up it'd show in his postings almost immediately, disable
account, ban email address from registering. Or since it's unlikely
he has multiple Internet providers, it would be trivial to just
blackhole his subnet at the router or .htaccess and you wouldn't even
have any registration attempts, let alone posts.

Jay Honeck
March 2nd 07, 06:48 PM
> I'm looking forward to some troll-free reading.

Good deal -- but I'm curious how you will accomplish this feat, given
that "the troll" responds to virtually every thread.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Steve Foley
March 2nd 07, 07:04 PM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> I'm looking forward to some troll-free reading.
>
> Good deal -- but I'm curious how you will accomplish this feat, given
> that "the troll" responds to virtually every thread.

This filter for Outlook Express marks his postings as ignored, and anything
from that branch on in that thread.

He no longer exists on my computer (Except the posts *ABOUT* him)

My 2/1 post:

I found the following completely eliminates mxsmanic from usenet, along with
any responses to him. Using this, I don't need to killfile anyone else. Only
responses to polluted threads are gone.

Tools -> Message Rules -> News -> -> New:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the From line contains 'mxsmanic'
Mark the message as ignored

View -> Current View -> Customize Current View:

View -> Current View -> Hide Read or Ignored Messages
View -> Current View -> Customize Current View

Un-check 'Where the message has been read'

Change the name to 'Hide Ignored Messages'


View -> Current View -> Make Sure 'Hide Ignored Messages' is checked.

Marco Leon
March 2nd 07, 07:04 PM
"Morgans"
> I suppose we will be seeing a lot more posts from Marco, now! :-(
>
> Just kidding! :-)

Jim, you can step away from the ledge now. That's right, nice and slow...

:)

Marco

Marco Leon
March 2nd 07, 07:49 PM
"Jay Honeck"
>
> Good deal -- but I'm curious how you will accomplish this feat, given
> that "the troll" responds to virtually every thread.

I followed Steve Foley's instructions from a Feb 1st post and it worked
well. I did some comparisons from what showed up on Google versus the
filtered Outlook Express view and it only removed his posts within a
particular thread as well as any reponses to his "branch." The original post
remains along with almost all non-mx-related posts. I do however, see posts
that are about him or mention him in their posts.

I imagine that I would miss posts on his branch that have somehow switched
back on topic but that's probably a rare occurrence.

I'd say it was a 95% or more improvement over the non-filtered view.

Marco

Steve Foley
March 2nd 07, 09:20 PM
"Marco Leon" > wrote in message
> I do however, see posts that are about him or mention him in their posts.

If you choose 'message -> Ignore Thread' while highlighting the message
about him, that will go away, along with the replies.

Morgans[_2_]
March 2nd 07, 10:15 PM
"Marco Leon" > wrote in message
...
> "Morgans"
>> I suppose we will be seeing a lot more posts from Marco, now! :-(
>>
>> Just kidding! :-)
>
> Jim, you can step away from the ledge now. That's right, nice and slow...

Marco, is that you, behind me? Please don't push! <g>

What are you using for the filters to zap the pest? My OE filters seems to
be working very well, but I'm always interested in new tricks.
--
Jim in NC

Marco Leon
March 6th 07, 06:42 PM
"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
> Marco, is that you, behind me? Please don't push! <g>
>
> What are you using for the filters to zap the pest? My OE filters seems
> to be working very well, but I'm always interested in new tricks.

I'm using Steve Foley's setup in Outlook Express. It works well but I wish I
was able to put a filter with text from the body of the post. I may look at
my registered version of NewsRover when I get the time.

Marco

Steve Foley
March 6th 07, 07:10 PM
Click on the message, choose 'Message -> Ignore Conversation'

That also makes them go away.

"Marco Leon" > wrote in message
...
> "Morgans" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Marco, is that you, behind me? Please don't push! <g>
>>
>> What are you using for the filters to zap the pest? My OE filters seems
>> to be working very well, but I'm always interested in new tricks.
>
> I'm using Steve Foley's setup in Outlook Express. It works well but I wish
> I was able to put a filter with text from the body of the post. I may
> look at my registered version of NewsRover when I get the time.
>
> Marco
>

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