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akiley
March 11th 07, 03:13 AM
I'm considering either a VFR or IFR flight (Piper Arrow) from the
Detroit area, overflying Canada along the east coast of Lake Huron
north and back into the US at Mackinac Island. (MCD) My route would
be KARB SVM ZR FRUMP YVV WALAC PINES MCD. This route would take me up
the Bruce Peninsula with a some island hopping then back in the US
around Drummond Island. (DRM) Canadian overflight, no landing in
Canada.

My question is the lowest altitude required to stay in radio
communication along the route. Looking at Low level IFR charts it
seems like you would be fine way up in the 10,000 foot range along
airways, but I wonder how I can figure out off airways. And other
options like position reports if I'm too low for radar but high enough
to stay in communication. (Toronto Center I think) It would be nice
if I could figure on 4,000 or 5,000.

Any ideas, or experience in this are of Canada? Thanks ... akiley

cavedweller
March 11th 07, 01:21 PM
On Mar 10, 10:13 pm, "akiley" > wrote:
> I'm considering either a VFR or IFR flight (Piper Arrow) from the
> Detroit area, overflying Canada along the east coast of Lake Huron
> north and back into the US at Mackinac Island. (MCD) My route would
> be KARB SVM ZR FRUMP YVV WALAC PINES MCD. This route would take me up
> the Bruce Peninsula with a some island hopping then back in the US
> around Drummond Island. (DRM) Canadian overflight, no landing in
> Canada.
>
> My question is the lowest altitude required to stay in radio
> communication along the route. Looking at Low level IFR charts it
> seems like you would be fine way up in the 10,000 foot range along
> airways, but I wonder how I can figure out off airways. And other
> options like position reports if I'm too low for radar but high enough
> to stay in communication. (Toronto Center I think) It would be nice
> if I could figure on 4,000 or 5,000.
>
> Any ideas, or experience in this are of Canada? Thanks ... akiley

London and Sault Ste. Marie Flight Service stations are accessible.

cavedweller
March 11th 07, 01:57 PM
On Mar 11, 8:21 am, "cavedweller" > wrote:
> On Mar 10, 10:13 pm, "akiley" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm considering either a VFR or IFR flight (Piper Arrow) from the
> > Detroit area, overflying Canada along the east coast of Lake Huron
> > north and back into the US at Mackinac Island. (MCD) My route would
> > be KARB SVM ZR FRUMP YVV WALAC PINES MCD. This route would take me up
> > the Bruce Peninsula with a some island hopping then back in the US
> > around Drummond Island. (DRM) Canadian overflight, no landing in
> > Canada.
>
> > My question is the lowest altitude required to stay in radio
> > communication along the route. Looking at Low level IFR charts it
> > seems like you would be fine way up in the 10,000 foot range along
> > airways, but I wonder how I can figure out off airways. And other
> > options like position reports if I'm too low for radar but high enough
> > to stay in communication. (Toronto Center I think) It would be nice
> > if I could figure on 4,000 or 5,000.
>
> > Any ideas, or experience in this are of Canada? Thanks ... akiley
>
> London and Sault Ste. Marie Flight Service stations are accessible.

....except it's now all covered by London FIC (Flight Information
Centre). 126.7

akiley
March 11th 07, 08:25 PM
On Mar 11, 9:57 am, "cavedweller" > wrote:
> On Mar 11, 8:21 am, "cavedweller" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 10, 10:13 pm, "akiley" > wrote:
>
> > > I'm considering either a VFR or IFR flight (Piper Arrow) from the
> > > Detroit area, overflying Canada along the east coast of Lake Huron
> > > north and back into the US at Mackinac Island. (MCD) My route would
> > > be KARB SVM ZR FRUMP YVV WALAC PINES MCD. This route would take me up
> > > the Bruce Peninsula with a some island hopping then back in the US
> > > around Drummond Island. (DRM) Canadian overflight, no landing in
> > > Canada.
>
> > > My question is the lowest altitude required to stay in radio
> > > communication along the route. Looking at Low level IFR charts it
> > > seems like you would be fine way up in the 10,000 foot range along
> > > airways, but I wonder how I can figure out off airways. And other
> > > options like position reports if I'm too low for radar but high enough
> > > to stay in communication. (Toronto Center I think) It would be nice
> > > if I could figure on 4,000 or 5,000.
>
> > > Any ideas, or experience in this are of Canada? Thanks ... akiley
>
> > London and Sault Ste. Marie Flight Service stations are accessible.
>
> ...except it's now all covered by London FIC (Flight Information
> Centre). 126.7

Thanks for the help. I called London FIC and Toronto center. VFR
is doable about 4000 feet, and IFR maybe a bit higher. Helpful
folks. ... akiley

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