C-172 VFR On-top

[Harry[_2_]]

First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure was pretty
and no turbulence.

(I've never posted a pic to this newsgroup before - hope it comes out ok)

[Dave Kearton]

Harry wrote:
> First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure was
> pretty and no turbulence.
>
> (I've never posted a pic to this newsgroup before - hope it comes out
> ok)



Of course, we're all jealous.


I resized the pic down to 1024 wide.

Anywhere from 900 to 1280 wide will fit on a typical screen with no
trouble - and is small enough for dial-up users to download easily.


Nice pic though, love to see any others that you're proud of.


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Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Chuck (in SC)]

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:24:53 +1030, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:

>Harry wrote:
>> First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure was
>> pretty and no turbulence.
>>
>> (I've never posted a pic to this newsgroup before - hope it comes out
>> ok)
>
>
>
>Of course, we're all jealous.
>
>
>I resized the pic down to 1024 wide.
>
>Anywhere from 900 to 1280 wide will fit on a typical screen with no
>trouble - and is small enough for dial-up users to download easily.
>
>
>Nice pic though, love to see any others that you're proud of.

"King Sydney"?

[Dave Kearton]

Chuck (in SC) wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:24:53 +1030, "Dave Kearton"
> > wrote:
>
>> Harry wrote:
>>> First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure
>>> was pretty and no turbulence.
>>>
>>> (I've never posted a pic to this newsgroup before - hope it comes
>>> out ok)
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, we're all jealous.
>>
>>
>> I resized the pic down to 1024 wide.
>>
>> Anywhere from 900 to 1280 wide will fit on a typical screen with no
>> trouble - and is small enough for dial-up users to download easily.
>>
>>
>> Nice pic though, love to see any others that you're proud of.
>
> "King Sydney"?




errr Queen Adelaide ?





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Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Bob Harrington]

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in news:QC3Lh.84127
:

> Harry wrote:
>> First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure was
>> pretty and no turbulence.
>>
>> (I've never posted a pic to this newsgroup before - hope it comes out
>> ok)
>
>
>
> Of course, we're all jealous.
>
>
> I resized the pic down to 1024 wide.
>
> Anywhere from 900 to 1280 wide will fit on a typical screen with no
> trouble - and is small enough for dial-up users to download easily.
>
>
> Nice pic though, love to see any others that you're proud of.

What Dave said. The closest I get to flying these days is the elevator
ride to the third floor...

Bob ^,,^

[Harry[_2_]]

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> Harry wrote:
>> First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure was
>> pretty and no turbulence.
>>
>> (I've never posted a pic to this newsgroup before - hope it comes out
>> ok)
>
>
>
> Of course, we're all jealous.
>
>
> I resized the pic down to 1024 wide.
>
> Anywhere from 900 to 1280 wide will fit on a typical screen with no
> trouble - and is small enough for dial-up users to download easily.
>
>
> Nice pic though, love to see any others that you're proud of.
>
>
> --
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>
>

Dave, thank you! I mean that sincerely. I didn't like how big it was and
appreciate your reducing it and now I know what to do in the future :-). If
there was a way of deleting and reposting it, I would in a heart beat.

Harry

[Bob Moore]

Harry wrote
> First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure was
> pretty and no turbulence.

Harry, technically, you were not VFR-ON-TOP. In the USofA,Aircraft flying
under VFR are "VFR-OVER-THE-TOP". However, you were not actually "OVER-THE-
TOP" since that inferrs an underlying cloud condition that obscures the
ground, and that was obviously was not the case in your picture. Lots of
ground visible in the lower left corner.

From the AIM:

VFR over-the-top, with respect to the operation of aircraft, means the
operation of an aircraft over-the-top under VFR when it is not being
operated on an IFR flight plan.

Over-the-top means above the layer of clouds or other obscuring phenomena
forming the ceiling.

IFR over-the-top, with respect to the operation of aircraft, means the
operation of an aircraft over-the-top on an IFR flight plan when cleared by
air traffic control to maintain “VFR conditions” or “VFR conditions on
top”.

Bob Moore
ATP, CFI

[Harry[_2_]]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
46.128...
> Harry wrote
>> First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure was
>> pretty and no turbulence.
>
> Harry, technically, you were not VFR-ON-TOP. In the USofA,Aircraft flying
> under VFR are "VFR-OVER-THE-TOP". However, you were not actually
> "OVER-THE-
> TOP" since that inferrs an underlying cloud condition that obscures the
> ground, and that was obviously was not the case in your picture. Lots of
> ground visible in the lower left corner.
>
> From the AIM:
>
> VFR over-the-top, with respect to the operation of aircraft, means the
> operation of an aircraft over-the-top under VFR when it is not being
> operated on an IFR flight plan.
>
> Over-the-top means above the layer of clouds or other obscuring phenomena
> forming the ceiling.
>
> IFR over-the-top, with respect to the operation of aircraft, means the
> operation of an aircraft over-the-top on an IFR flight plan when cleared
> by
> air traffic control to maintain "VFR conditions" or "VFR conditions on
> top".
>
> Bob Moore
> ATP, CFI

Bob, your absolutely correct, however, that bit of ground visibility was the
exception not the rule. 80% of that flight was over solid cloud cover :-).

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
46.128...
> Harry wrote
>> First time I ever flew VFR on-top. We were at 6500 fl (MSL). Sure was
>> pretty and no turbulence.
>
> Harry, technically, you were not VFR-ON-TOP. In the USofA,Aircraft flying
> under VFR are "VFR-OVER-THE-TOP". However, you were not actually
> "OVER-THE-
> TOP" since that inferrs an underlying cloud condition that obscures the
> ground, and that was obviously was not the case in your picture. Lots of
> ground visible in the lower left corner.
>
> From the AIM:
>
> VFR over-the-top, with respect to the operation of aircraft, means the
> operation of an aircraft over-the-top under VFR when it is not being
> operated on an IFR flight plan.
>
> Over-the-top means above the layer of clouds or other obscuring phenomena
> forming the ceiling.
>
> IFR over-the-top, with respect to the operation of aircraft, means the
> operation of an aircraft over-the-top on an IFR flight plan when cleared
> by
> air traffic control to maintain "VFR conditions" or "VFR conditions on
> top".
>

I didn't see the OP, but based on what you quoted from it nothing suggests
he was not operating IFR.

[Dave Kearton]

Harry wrote:

> Dave, thank you! I mean that sincerely. I didn't like how big it was
> and appreciate your reducing it and now I know what to do in the
> future :-). If there was a way of deleting and reposting it, I would
> in a heart beat.
> Harry



You're very welcome Harry.




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Cheers

Dave Kearton