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Dan Luke
March 19th 07, 01:25 PM
At YouTube, paste search string " Citation Runway over shoot into Atlanta Bay
"

Look at about the 1:30 mark where the pax are deplaning into the boat.


--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

Bob Fry
March 19th 07, 03:06 PM
Yeah, I looked, BFD. What's really strange is why the CJ powers up
again in the water! Anybody know the story here?
--
If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid looking in a mirror,
because I bet that will really throw you into a panic.
- Jack Handey

Dan Luke
March 19th 07, 03:13 PM
"Bob Fry" wrote:

> Yeah, I looked, BFD. What's really strange is why the CJ powers up
> again in the water! Anybody know the story here?

Yeah that's interesting, but when a bizjet runs off into a bay and a topless
lady gets out, that's *fascinating*.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

Robert M. Gary
March 19th 07, 06:23 PM
On Mar 19, 8:06 am, Bob Fry > wrote:
> Yeah, I looked, BFD. What's really strange is why the CJ powers up
> again in the water! Anybody know the story here?
> --
> If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid looking in a mirror,
> because I bet that will really throw you into a panic.
> - Jack Handey

There was a discussion about that awhile back. Many people believe
that the pilot went back in (he appears to) and tried to "drive" the
plane out of the water. Others believed it was an electrical issue
that caused the engine to spin up. Either way, its a sad way for a
cool airplane to get junked.

-Robert

**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**
March 20th 07, 01:57 AM
My guess is that when the water rose up into the combustor, there was a
bunch of steam generated that got the turbines to start spinning again.
The FAA established the ignitors were on so assuming the fuel was as
well, the engine "lit up".

Bob Fry wrote:

>Yeah, I looked, BFD. What's really strange is why the CJ powers up
>again in the water! Anybody know the story here?
>
>

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**
March 20th 07, 01:58 AM
Try as I might, I couldn't see anything of the sort!

Dan Luke wrote:

>At YouTube, paste search string " Citation Runway over shoot into Atlanta Bay
>"
>
>Look at about the 1:30 mark where the pax are deplaning into the boat.
>
>
>
>

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

Kev
March 20th 07, 02:22 AM
On Mar 19, 11:06 am, Bob Fry > wrote:
> Yeah, I looked, BFD. What's really strange is why the CJ powers up
> again in the water! Anybody know the story here?

People have said the ignitors were on, and the throttle lever was
screwed up, and somehow it fired back up again. No idea how that
works.

The NTSB report is at:

http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20050526X00676&ntsbno=NYC05LA085&akey=1

Jim Macklin
March 20th 07, 04:06 AM
Then Citations have had some bad starter relays, salt water
doesn't help. The power lever was not in cutoff, so it
fired up. It stopped [my guess] when it ran out of fuel
[possible reason the pilot landed a jet on an airport closed
to jets and downwind at that].


"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
| Yeah, I looked, BFD. What's really strange is why the CJ
powers up
| again in the water! Anybody know the story here?
| --
| If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid looking in a
mirror,
| because I bet that will really throw you into a panic.
| - Jack Handey
|

Jim Macklin
March 20th 07, 04:08 AM
My son worked at Cessna and for a Cessna dealer. More than
one Citation has started itself in the hanger while
unattended.



"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
ups.com...
| On Mar 19, 8:06 am, Bob Fry > wrote:
| > Yeah, I looked, BFD. What's really strange is why the CJ
powers up
| > again in the water! Anybody know the story here?
| > --
| > If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid looking in a
mirror,
| > because I bet that will really throw you into a panic.
| > - Jack Handey
|
| There was a discussion about that awhile back. Many people
believe
| that the pilot went back in (he appears to) and tried to
"drive" the
| plane out of the water. Others believed it was an
electrical issue
| that caused the engine to spin up. Either way, its a sad
way for a
| cool airplane to get junked.
|
| -Robert
|

Dan Luke
March 20th 07, 12:19 PM
"**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**" wrote:

> Try as I might, I couldn't see anything of the sort!
>

It is (or should I say "they are") there. You pretty much have to look
frame-by-frame. Watch for her to walk to the back of the boat.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

john smith
March 20th 07, 05:58 PM
In article >,
"Dan Luke" > wrote:

> "**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**" wrote:
>
> > Try as I might, I couldn't see anything of the sort!
> >
>
> It is (or should I say "they are") there. You pretty much have to look
> frame-by-frame. Watch for her to walk to the back of the boat.

When she is facing the camera and turns sideways just before sitting
down you get a good frontal and profile view.

Paul Tomblin
March 20th 07, 06:11 PM
In a previous article, "Dan Luke" > said:
>At YouTube, paste search string " Citation Runway over shoot into Atlanta Bay
>"
>
>Look at about the 1:30 mark where the pax are deplaning into the boat.
>

The plane is from Denmark. I'd be more surprised if there wasn't a
topless woman on board.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
There are three kinds of people: Those who can count & those who can't.

Paul Tomblin
March 20th 07, 06:16 PM
In a previous article, "Jim Macklin" > said:
>fired up. It stopped [my guess] when it ran out of fuel
>[possible reason the pilot landed a jet on an airport closed
>to jets and downwind at that].

Except he landed at the airport he filed his flight plan to. So unlikely
he was out of fuel.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
"The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it
is a complete substitute for life." --Andrew Brown

Dan Luke
March 20th 07, 06:16 PM
"Paul Tomblin" wrote:

>
> The plane is from Denmark. I'd be more surprised if there wasn't a
> topless woman on board.
>

LOL

Jim Macklin
March 20th 07, 09:24 PM
Nothing says he had enough fuel to start with, perhaps he
had to cruise lower than flight planned for fuel and ran
low, maybe the wind changed. But a running jet rarely quits
except for running out of fuel.



"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
| In a previous article, "Jim Macklin"
> said:
| >fired up. It stopped [my guess] when it ran out of fuel
| >[possible reason the pilot landed a jet on an airport
closed
| >to jets and downwind at that].
|
| Except he landed at the airport he filed his flight plan
to. So unlikely
| he was out of fuel.
|
|
| --
| Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
| "The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that
for some people it
| is a complete substitute for life." --Andrew Brown

Flydive
March 20th 07, 09:48 PM
Jim Macklin wrote:
> Nothing says he had enough fuel to start with, perhaps he
> had to cruise lower than flight planned for fuel and ran
> low, maybe the wind changed. But a running jet rarely quits
> except for running out of fuel.
>


Water ingestion maybe, I believe there was plenty around.......

March 20th 07, 10:50 PM
Doesn't look topless to me, looks like she's wearing a light peach or near
flesh colored top. Too bad the video resolution isn't better.
Scott Wilson

Jim Macklin
March 21st 07, 01:38 AM
No, it just spooled down, the engine was well above the
water.

BTW, grow up guys, topless women can be seem at
www.domai.com in good and non-porno-detail.



"Flydive" > wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| > Nothing says he had enough fuel to start with, perhaps
he
| > had to cruise lower than flight planned for fuel and ran
| > low, maybe the wind changed. But a running jet rarely
quits
| > except for running out of fuel.
| >
|
|
| Water ingestion maybe, I believe there was plenty
around.......

Morgans[_2_]
March 21st 07, 02:31 AM
> wrote in message
et...
> Doesn't look topless to me, looks like she's wearing a light peach or near
> flesh colored top. Too bad the video resolution isn't better.
> Scott Wilson

That is what I thought.

Her body language is all wrong, for being topless. She would be trying to
cover up, with arms, or someone's shirt, or something.
--
Jim in NC

JB
March 21st 07, 06:32 PM
On Mar 20, 2:16 pm, "Dan Luke" > wrote:
> "Paul Tomblin" wrote:
>
> > The plane is from Denmark. I'd be more surprised if there wasn't a
> > topless woman on board.
>
> LOL

And BTW...the video is NOT Atlanta Bay. It is a jet overrunning
Runway 11 at Bader Field (AIY - now closed) at Atlantic City. The
casinos are in the background of the video.

--Jeff

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