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the Legend of LAX
March 19th 07, 11:07 PM
Here is one for today. I have to process some more & will post them later.


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Dale G Elhardt
Cypress Ca
"The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an
incredible miracle."
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duke39
March 20th 07, 02:18 AM
COOL !!!!!!!!!!!!

"the Legend of LAX" > wrote in message
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> Here is one for today. I have to process some more & will post them later.
>
>
> --
> Dale G Elhardt
> Cypress Ca
> "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an
> incredible miracle."
> http://home.comcast.net/~laxet/
> http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=7702
>

Maple1
March 20th 07, 02:50 AM
GREAT SHOT DALE

Hope to see you in July

Bill

Ron Monroe
March 20th 07, 06:17 AM
Not as dramatic as Dale's though.
Ron

Pointer
March 20th 07, 09:26 AM
http://tinyurl.com/2un6at

See the Fox News Video ( the landing is in the top video option)

Was there a strong Xwind?
instant rudder correction as the wheels touch!
P

the Legend of LAX
March 20th 07, 04:32 PM
Pointer wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/2un6at
>
> See the Fox News Video ( the landing is in the top video option)
>
> Was there a strong Xwind?
> instant rudder correction as the wheels touch!
> P
>
>

There were no winds at all. If anything, just a slight breeze.

--
Dale G Elhardt
Cypress Ca
"The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an
incredible miracle."
http://home.comcast.net/~laxet/
http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=7702

NoJags Neil
March 20th 07, 04:36 PM
Wtf is that cement mixer doing there? ;-)

"Ron Monroe" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Not as dramatic as Dale's though.
> Ron
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Bruce R
March 20th 07, 07:19 PM
One landed in NY with 550 people on board?? That's what the newscaster
said, has anyone heard about that??

Bruce R

Maple1
March 20th 07, 10:08 PM
Bruce R wrote:
> One landed in NY with 550 people on board?? That's what the newscaster
> said, has anyone heard about that??
>
> Bruce R
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Employees They wanted to test load and unload times It was a full flight

Meaner than you
March 21st 07, 01:23 AM
they need a longer runway to fly the A380 into LAX
"Clark" > wrote in message
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> "NoJags Neil" > wrote in
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>> Wtf is that cement mixer doing there? ;-)
>>
> Footprints?
>
> It's not quite Hollywood but maybe close enough...
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> there should be a "sig" here

Meaner than you
March 21st 07, 01:26 AM
it was a software glitch and a electrical wiring problem, it was talked
about that last year, this is one of the problems they are having....
"Doc" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:26:48 GMT, "Pointer" >
> wrote:
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>>http://tinyurl.com/2un6at
>>
>>See the Fox News Video ( the landing is in the top video option)
>>
>>Was there a strong Xwind?
>>instant rudder correction as the wheels touch!
>>P
>
> I saw the video at cnn.com and I noticed that correction too.

Willem Van der Voort
March 21st 07, 03:34 AM
"Meaner than you" > schreef in bericht
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> they need a longer runway to fly the A380 into LAX
>>
>>> Wtf is that cement mixer doing there? ;-)

Strange, why was the A-380 assigned to RW 24R the shortest RW in LAX???


Runway information: Number Category Heading Length Width Surface
06L I 69 8925 ft / 2720 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
06R I 69 10285 ft / 3135 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
07L I 69 12091 ft / 3685 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
07R I 69 11096 ft / 3382 m 200 ft / 61 m Concrete
24L I 249 10285 ft / 3135 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
24R IIIA 249 8925 ft / 2720 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
25L II 249 11096 ft / 3382 m 200 ft / 61 m Concrete
25R I 249 12091 ft / 3685 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete

Ron Monroe
March 21st 07, 05:03 AM
The new longer runway is under construction, and is not ready for the A380.
As was seen with the cement mixer, work is still being done. But, it was a
pretty empty airplane, and had plenty of room for landing on 24R. I think
they said there were only 8 passengers on board, and it didn't have an
interior installed yet. Dale can probably give you more info on the
runways.
Ron

"Willem Van der Voort" > wrote in message
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> "Meaner than you" > schreef in bericht
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>> they need a longer runway to fly the A380 into LAX
>>>
>>>> Wtf is that cement mixer doing there? ;-)
>
> Strange, why was the A-380 assigned to RW 24R the shortest RW in LAX???
>
>
> Runway information: Number Category Heading Length Width Surface
> 06L I 69 8925 ft / 2720 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
> 06R I 69 10285 ft / 3135 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
> 07L I 69 12091 ft / 3685 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
> 07R I 69 11096 ft / 3382 m 200 ft / 61 m Concrete
> 24L I 249 10285 ft / 3135 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
> 24R IIIA 249 8925 ft / 2720 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
> 25L II 249 11096 ft / 3382 m 200 ft / 61 m Concrete
> 25R I 249 12091 ft / 3685 m 150 ft / 46 m Concrete
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Willem Van der Voort
March 21st 07, 11:36 AM
"Ron Monroe" > schreef in bericht
hlink.net...
> The new longer runway is under construction, and is not ready for the
> A380. As was seen with the cement mixer, work is still being done. But, it
> was a pretty empty airplane, and had plenty of room for landing on 24R. I
> think they said there were only 8 passengers on board, and it didn't have
> an interior installed yet. Dale can probably give you more info on the
> runways.
> Ron


Tanks Ron,

Willem

the Legend of LAX
March 21st 07, 11:26 PM
Ron Monroe wrote:
> The new longer runway is under construction, and is not ready for the A380.
> As was seen with the cement mixer, work is still being done. But, it was a
> pretty empty airplane, and had plenty of room for landing on 24R. I think
> they said there were only 8 passengers on board, and it didn't have an
> interior installed yet. Dale can probably give you more info on the
> runways.
> Ron
>

The new r/w is scheduled to open April 2, as a cat I. Cat III will
follow a month or two later. Then they will begin constructing the
taxiway between 25L & 25R. They did some flight checks on the new ILS
last night. It's getting the new fangled end-fire glideslope.

The decision was made to land on 24R so that the taxi routes could be
tested. Also, since there is only one r/w open on the south side, the
Airbus would have effectively shut down half of the airport until
parked. There was also some concern that the engine height was low
enough to actually strike some of the signage. It didn't.

--
Dale G Elhardt
Cypress Ca
"The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an
incredible miracle."
http://home.comcast.net/~laxet/
http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=7702

john smith
March 21st 07, 11:58 PM
In article >,
the Legend of LAX > wrote:

> They did some flight checks on the new ILS
> last night. It's getting the new fangled end-fire glideslope.

Does that mean it directly projects the gs instead of reflecting it from
1000 feet down the runway?

Willem Van der Voort
March 22nd 07, 12:11 AM
> The new r/w is scheduled to open April 2, as a cat I. Cat III will follow
> a month or two later. Then they will begin constructing the taxiway
> between 25L & 25R. They did some flight checks on the new ILS last night.
> It's getting the new fangled end-fire glideslope.
>
> The decision was made to land on 24R so that the taxi routes could be
> tested. Also, since there is only one r/w open on the south side, the
> Airbus would have effectively shut down half of the airport until parked.
> There was also some concern that the engine height was low enough to
> actually strike some of the signage. It didn't.
>
> --
> Dale G Elhardt
> Cypress Ca
> "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an
> incredible miracle."
> http://home.comcast.net/~laxet/
> http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=7702

Tanks Dale, very intresting to know

Willem

Doug Maclean
March 22nd 07, 05:11 PM
"The comprehensive route-proving schedule includes the following
flights and ground tests:

Saturday, 17 March 11:30 hrs: Touchdown of the Airbus A380 at
Frankfurt Airport arriving from Toulouse
Sunday, 18 March Comprehensive ground tests at Frankfurt Airport
Monday, 19 March 9:00 hrs: Departure for New York
Tuesday, 20 March A380 flight from New York to Chicago
Wednesday, 21 March Return flight to New York
Thursday, 22 March Flight from New York to Frankfurt
10:30 hrs: Arrival in Frankfurt

Friday, 23 March 15:30 hrs: Flight departs Frankfurt for Hong Kong
Saturday, 24 March Hong Kong
Sunday, 25 March Return flight from Hong Kong to Frankfurt, landing at
15:10 hrs
18:00 hrs: Flight departs Frankfurt for Washington
Monday, 26 March Washington
Tuesday, 27 March Return flight to Frankfurt
12:00 hrs: Arrival in Frankfurt, further ground tests
Wednesday, 28 March 11:00 hrs: Flight departs Frankfurt for Munich
12:30 hrs: Arrival in Munich
17:30 hrs: A380 departs Munich for Toulouse

the Legend of LAX
March 22nd 07, 11:20 PM
john smith wrote:
> In article >,
> the Legend of LAX > wrote:
>
>> They did some flight checks on the new ILS
>> last night. It's getting the new fangled end-fire glideslope.
>
> Does that mean it directly projects the gs instead of reflecting it from
> 1000 feet down the runway?

For a little background explanation for those who don't know how it works:
The antenna sits at the touchdown point (the point where the glide path
actually touches the r/w), 750-1250 feet down the runway & offset
250-650 feet from centerline. It projects a beam toward the the landing
path at an angle of 1.4 (usually) degrees. We use capture effect now,
which is based on the principle that a receiver will lock on to the
stronger of two signals & reject the weaker. I have not been to school
for the end-fire so I don't know its theory yet, but it does basically
the same thing, just using a different method. The antenna sits at about
the same point. Instead of being on a tall mast, it sits almost flat on
the ground, similar to a localizer antenna. It is used where terrain is
not smooth (since the CEGS uses an image antenna as part of its
operation & requires smooth ground plane around it to reflect the
image). I will try to get some pictures & post them showing the
different antennas.

--
Dale G Elhardt
Cypress Ca
"The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an
incredible miracle."
http://home.comcast.net/~laxet/
http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=7702

Daryl Bryant[_2_]
March 25th 07, 08:59 AM
That's a heavy...

A new Air France Airbus A320 making what was supposed to be a fly-by at a
1998 airshow. The pilot claims the highly automated control system on the
A320 failed to respond properly to commands. The official investigation
blamed pilot error as the cause, but it was later revealed that the aircraft
's black boxes had been switched after the crash. What do you suppose really
happened?

Herman
March 25th 07, 02:48 PM
Sounds like a job for Mythbusters.

"Daryl Bryant" > schreef in bericht
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> That's a heavy...
>
> A new Air France Airbus A320 making what was supposed to be a fly-by at a
> 1998 airshow. The pilot claims the highly automated control system on the
> A320 failed to respond properly to commands. The official investigation
> blamed pilot error as the cause, but it was later revealed that the
> aircraft
> 's black boxes had been switched after the crash. What do you suppose
> really
> happened?
>
>

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