Below the line

[Mxsmanic]

What does "below the line" mean, apparently with reference to checklists?

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[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> What does "below the line" mean, apparently with reference to checklists?
>

What does it matter to you, fjukkwit?

You don't fly, and you especially don't fly multi crew ariplanes, wannabe
boi.

You couldn't possibly understand it..


Bertie

[Robert M. Gary]

On Mar 21, 1:35 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> What does "below the line" mean, apparently with reference to checklists?
>
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I know you are pretty proud of the aviation knowledge that you have
gained. However, as with most aspects of life, without the proper
letters behind your name people are not going to see as you an expert
in anything. One good solution for you (that is pretty inexpensive)
would be to aquire an Advanced Ground Instructor rating. You can buy
study materials (if you think you need to study), then you just go
down and take the FOI and AGI written tests, and POW, you are the
holder of an "Advanced Ground Instructor" FAA certificates. You never
have to step into an airplane, FBO, or ever see a CFI. I can assure
you that you will be treated with more respect after you have letters
behind your name.

-Robert

[Mxsmanic]

Robert M. Gary writes:

> I know you are pretty proud of the aviation knowledge that you have
> gained. However, as with most aspects of life, without the proper
> letters behind your name people are not going to see as you an expert
> in anything.

How people see me is not very important. I worry about what I know, not about
what others think I know.

> One good solution for you (that is pretty inexpensive)
> would be to aquire an Advanced Ground Instructor rating. You can buy
> study materials (if you think you need to study), then you just go
> down and take the FOI and AGI written tests, and POW, you are the
> holder of an "Advanced Ground Instructor" FAA certificates. You never
> have to step into an airplane, FBO, or ever see a CFI. I can assure
> you that you will be treated with more respect after you have letters
> behind your name.

An interesting and intriguing suggestion. Unfortunately, I'm 6000 miles away
from the nearest testing location, so I can't really follow up on it right
now.

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[Robert M. Gary]

On Mar 21, 2:57 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Robert M. Gary writes:
> > I know you are pretty proud of the aviation knowledge that you have
> > gained. However, as with most aspects of life, without the proper
> > letters behind your name people are not going to see as you an expert
> > in anything.
>
> How people see me is not very important. I worry about what I know, not about
> what others think I know.

The quality of responses you get from your posts is directly related
to the amount of respect people have for you.

> > One good solution for you (that is pretty inexpensive)
> > would be to aquire an Advanced Ground Instructor rating. You can buy
> > study materials (if you think you need to study), then you just go
> > down and take the FOI and AGI written tests, and POW, you are the
> > holder of an "Advanced Ground Instructor" FAA certificates. You never
> > have to step into an airplane, FBO, or ever see a CFI. I can assure
> > you that you will be treated with more respect after you have letters
> > behind your name.
>
> An interesting and intriguing suggestion. Unfortunately, I'm 6000 miles away
> from the nearest testing location, so I can't really follow up on it right
> now.

I believe this testing center is only about 20 minutes from most
anywhere in Paris by Metro

LE BOURGET CEDEX
LASFR003
FLIGHT SAFETY SCHOOL
AEROPORT DUDOURGET BP 25-BT 404
FRANCE
MAUD DUBOSQ

-Robert

[Bob Moore]

Mxsmanic wrote
> What does "below the line" mean, apparently with reference to checklists?

At the "old" PanAm, the takeoff checklist was divided by a line into
those items that could be accomplished at anytime after the taxi CL,
and those items that must be done after line-up on the runway. While
in TO position, some pilots would call for the "Final Items" while
others would call for "Below-the-Line"....same result.

Bob Moore
ATP B-707 B-727
PanAm (retired)

[Darkwing]

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Robert M. Gary writes:
>
>> I know you are pretty proud of the aviation knowledge that you have
>> gained. However, as with most aspects of life, without the proper
>> letters behind your name people are not going to see as you an expert
>> in anything.
>
> How people see me is not very important. I worry about what I know, not
> about
> what others think I know.
>

I'm assuming you spent at least a couple minutes searching Google, right?

-----------------------------------------------
DW

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

Bob Moore wrote:
> Mxsmanic wrote
>> What does "below the line" mean, apparently with reference to checklists?
>
> At the "old" PanAm, the takeoff checklist was divided by a line into
> those items that could be accomplished at anytime after the taxi CL,
> and those items that must be done after line-up on the runway. While
> in TO position, some pilots would call for the "Final Items" while
> others would call for "Below-the-Line"....same result.
>
> Bob Moore
> ATP B-707 B-727
> PanAm (retired)

In my business this is what we call a lineup check. Same result I would
believe.
Dudley Henriques

[Mxsmanic]

Bob Moore writes:

> At the "old" PanAm, the takeoff checklist was divided by a line into
> those items that could be accomplished at anytime after the taxi CL,
> and those items that must be done after line-up on the runway. While
> in TO position, some pilots would call for the "Final Items" while
> others would call for "Below-the-Line"....same result.

Cool, thanks!

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[Dave[_3_]]

Ahhhh...

Through all the "noise"...

Bob and Dudley come through a good answer to a good question by MX..

Now I know the answer as well..

I have learned something...

...I DID NOT KNOW THIS.....

I am soooo ashamed.. (Dave hangs head and shuffles feet)....





On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:03:14 -0400, Dudley Henriques
> wrote:

>
>
>Bob Moore wrote:
>> Mxsmanic wrote
>>> What does "below the line" mean, apparently with reference to checklists?
>>
>> At the "old" PanAm, the takeoff checklist was divided by a line into
>> those items that could be accomplished at anytime after the taxi CL,
>> and those items that must be done after line-up on the runway. While
>> in TO position, some pilots would call for the "Final Items" while
>> others would call for "Below-the-Line"....same result.
>>
>> Bob Moore
>> ATP B-707 B-727
>> PanAm (retired)
>
>In my business this is what we call a lineup check. Same result I would
>believe.
>Dudley Henriques

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Robert M. Gary writes:
>
>> I know you are pretty proud of the aviation knowledge that you have
>> gained. However, as with most aspects of life, without the proper
>> letters behind your name people are not going to see as you an expert
>> in anything.
>
> How people see me is not very important.

Obviously



Bertei

[Ron Natalie]

Dave wrote:
> Ahhhh...
>
> Through all the "noise"...
>
> Bob and Dudley come through a good answer to a good question by MX..
>
> Now I know the answer as well..
>
> I have learned something...
>
> ..I DID NOT KNOW THIS.....
>
Yep, when MX behaves himself and avoids lying or otherwise
foisting his fantasies and misrepresentations of flight on us,
and asks intelligent questions, he gets intelligent answers.
It's generally helpful to the group.

When he acts like a putz, then he gets flames.

It's always possible to turn your life around if you try.

[Jim Logajan]

Dave > wrote:
> I have learned something...
>
> ..I DID NOT KNOW THIS.....

I looked it up, though I don't know why I spent the time doing that because
learning the name of something does not impart any knowledge or
understanding per se. Knowing aviation slang and colloquialisms are of
course useful for communicating, but I'm not sure what other use is served.

[Robert M. Gary]

On Mar 21, 4:19 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Bob Moore writes:
> > At the "old" PanAm, the takeoff checklist was divided by a line into
> > those items that could be accomplished at anytime after the taxi CL,
> > and those items that must be done after line-up on the runway. While
> > in TO position, some pilots would call for the "Final Items" while
> > others would call for "Below-the-Line"....same result.
>
> Cool, thanks!

With all your aviation knowledge, why not jump on the Metro to Le
Bourget Cedex FAA testing center and spend the afternoon taking your
AGI and FOI exams?

-Robert

[Jose]

> learning the name of something does not impart any knowledge or
> understanding per se.

Actually, that's not quite true. Sometimes the =name= of something
gives hints as to its relationship to other somethings one already knows
the name of. That imparts understanding.

Jose
--
Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in news:1174583405.012347.146250
@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 21, 4:19 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>> Bob Moore writes:
>> > At the "old" PanAm, the takeoff checklist was divided by a line into
>> > those items that could be accomplished at anytime after the taxi CL,
>> > and those items that must be done after line-up on the runway. While
>> > in TO position, some pilots would call for the "Final Items" while
>> > others would call for "Below-the-Line"....same result.
>>
>> Cool, thanks!
>
> With all your aviation knowledge, why not jump on the Metro to Le
> Bourget Cedex FAA testing center and spend the afternoon taking your
> AGI and FOI exams?

Oh Jesus, don't engcourage him. there are enough assholes doing that sort
of thing already.


bertie

[Robert M. Gary]

On Mar 22, 11:58 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in news:1174583405.012347.146250
> @d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Mar 21, 4:19 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> >> Bob Moore writes:
> >> > At the "old" PanAm, the takeoff checklist was divided by a line into
> >> > those items that could be accomplished at anytime after the taxi CL,
> >> > and those items that must be done after line-up on the runway. While
> >> > in TO position, some pilots would call for the "Final Items" while
> >> > others would call for "Below-the-Line"....same result.
>
> >> Cool, thanks!
>
> > With all your aviation knowledge, why not jump on the Metro to Le
> > Bourget Cedex FAA testing center and spend the afternoon taking your
> > AGI and FOI exams?
>
> Oh Jesus, don't engcourage him. there are enough assholes doing that sort
> of thing already.
>
> bertie

No, if he believes himself to be an aviation expert, he should have no
problems passing the tests.

-Robert

[Mxsmanic]

Robert M. Gary writes:

> With all your aviation knowledge, why not jump on the Metro to Le
> Bourget Cedex FAA testing center and spend the afternoon taking your
> AGI and FOI exams?

What would be the objective?

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[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in
oups.com:

> On Mar 22, 11:58 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in
>> news:1174583405.012347.146250 @d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Mar 21, 4:19 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>> >> Bob Moore writes:
>> >> > At the "old" PanAm, the takeoff checklist was divided by a line
>> >> > into those items that could be accomplished at anytime after the
>> >> > taxi CL, and those items that must be done after line-up on the
>> >> > runway. While in TO position, some pilots would call for the
>> >> > "Final Items" while others would call for
>> >> > "Below-the-Line"....same result.
>>
>> >> Cool, thanks!
>>
>> > With all your aviation knowledge, why not jump on the Metro to Le
>> > Bourget Cedex FAA testing center and spend the afternoon taking
>> > your AGI and FOI exams?
>>
>> Oh Jesus, don't engcourage him. there are enough assholes doing that
>> sort of thing already.
>>
>> bertie
>
> No, if he believes himself to be an aviation expert, he should have no
> problems passing the tests.
>

What I mean is there are enough assholes involved in teaching ground
schools already. I've seen quite a few of them, most are lucky to avoid
lynching after they teach. We have one in my place. never a pilot but he
teaches some of our ground schools. Suffice to say he's cut from the
same cloth as this moron.

Bertie

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> Robert M. Gary writes:
>
>> With all your aviation knowledge, why not jump on the Metro to Le
>> Bourget Cedex FAA testing center and spend the afternoon taking your
>> AGI and FOI exams?
>
> What would be the objective?

I'll give you the objective. If you take the tests before before April 1,
2007 and score above a 90% on both tests I will mail you a crisp new $100US
bill. If you don't score at least 90% on the test you promise to NEVER under
any name to ever post in a REC.Aviation.* newsgroup.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in
:

> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Robert M. Gary writes:
>>
>>> With all your aviation knowledge, why not jump on the Metro to Le
>>> Bourget Cedex FAA testing center and spend the afternoon taking your
>>> AGI and FOI exams?
>>
>> What would be the objective?
>
> I'll give you the objective. If you take the tests before before April
> 1, 2007 and score above a 90% on both tests I will mail you a crisp
> new $100US bill. If you don't score at least 90% on the test you
> promise to NEVER under any name to ever post in a REC.Aviation.*
> newsgroup.

I'll give him a grand if he does it and he has to throw himself into a
running CF-6 if he doesn't.


bertei

[Mxsmanic]

Bertie the Bunyip writes:

> What I mean is there are enough assholes involved in teaching ground
> schools already. I've seen quite a few of them, most are lucky to avoid
> lynching after they teach. We have one in my place. never a pilot but he
> teaches some of our ground schools. Suffice to say he's cut from the
> same cloth as this moron.

I wonder whether or not he says the same thing about his students--and who's
actually right (if anyone).

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[Mxsmanic]

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

> I'll give you the objective. If you take the tests before before April 1,
> 2007 and score above a 90% on both tests I will mail you a crisp new $100US
> bill.

That would not even begin to cover the cost.

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[Mxsmanic]

Bertie the Bunyip writes:

> I'll give him a grand if he does it and he has to throw himself into a
> running CF-6 if he doesn't.

That would not cover the cost.

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[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
>
>> What I mean is there are enough assholes involved in teaching ground
>> schools already. I've seen quite a few of them, most are lucky to
>> avoid lynching after they teach. We have one in my place. never a
>> pilot but he teaches some of our ground schools. Suffice to say he's
>> cut from the same cloth as this moron.
>
> I wonder whether or not he says the same thing about his students--and
> who's actually right (if anyone).

I'm sure he does. In fact he uses the same tactics you do to deflect
criticism, obfuscate his errors and generally bull**** his way through
life.

And as to being his "student"

Bwawhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahhwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhha!

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
>
>> I'll give him a grand if he does it and he has to throw himself into a
>> running CF-6 if he doesn't.
>
> That would not cover the cost.

Wel, granted it would cost more than a grand to rebuild a CF-6 after your
head ful of rocks went through it, still, it would be fun to watch.


bertie

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> Gig 601XL Builder writes:
>
>> I'll give you the objective. If you take the tests before before
>> April 1, 2007 and score above a 90% on both tests I will mail you a
>> crisp new $100US bill.
>
> That would not even begin to cover the cost.

OK then, I've offered $100 to the pot why don't you make a call and see what
the test costs there. I'll bet we have a few more on the group that would
add to the pot under the same conditions I proposed.

How much do you think it costs to take the written test anyway?

[Mxsmanic]

Bertie the Bunyip writes:

> I'm sure he does. In fact he uses the same tactics you do to deflect
> criticism, obfuscate his errors and generally bull**** his way through
> life.

How do you know that he isn't actually just right?

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[Mxsmanic]

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

> OK then, I've offered $100 to the pot why don't you make a call and see what
> the test costs there. I'll bet we have a few more on the group that would
> add to the pot under the same conditions I proposed.

There's the cost of my time, transportation, lost wages, and so on.

> How much do you think it costs to take the written test anyway?

I don't know, but unless it's practically free, it would not be cost-effective
to take it.

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[Gig 601XL Builder]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> Gig 601XL Builder writes:
>
>> OK then, I've offered $100 to the pot why don't you make a call and
>> see what the test costs there. I'll bet we have a few more on the
>> group that would add to the pot under the same conditions I proposed.
>
> There's the cost of my time, transportation, lost wages, and so on.

According to you own words $100 is equal to a week of your income so that
particular cop-out doesn't fly.

>
>> How much do you think it costs to take the written test anyway?
>
> I don't know, but unless it's practically free, it would not be cost-
> effective to take it.

As I mentioned I'm sure there are others in the groupd that would be will to
add to the pot to cover the cost of th tests.

But you see, I knew you would refuse the challenge because it would prove
that you really don't have a clue and aren't even willing to put a very
little bit of your not very valuable time to prove that you do in fact have
a clue.

So, go away little man.

[Viperdoc]

He will never rise to the challenge. He has an overestimated opinion of his
own knowledge and abilities, yet no one else seems to share this inflated
opinion. This, along with his lack of social skills, is why he can't find or
hold a job.

Yes, everyone has setbacks in their lives, but most of us have developed
enough coping skills to rise above these problems. He, on the other hand,
blames others for his shortcomings.

Sad and pathetic, yes- but still irritating.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Viperdoc wrote:
> He will never rise to the challenge. He has an overestimated opinion
> of his own knowledge and abilities, yet no one else seems to share
> this inflated opinion. This, along with his lack of social skills, is
> why he can't find or hold a job.

Here I think you are wrong Doc. I think he knows he couldn't pass them and
so he won't try. His ego, which several times he has said he doesn't have,
won't let him. Plus, part of the deal was that he never post here again and
that would remove what is probably one of the high point of his sad and
pathetic life.

[Montblack]

("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
> Here I think you are wrong Doc. I think he knows he couldn't pass them and
> so he won't try. His ego, which several times he has said he doesn't have,
> won't let him. Plus, part of the deal was that he never post here again
> and that would remove what is probably one of the high point of his sad
> and pathetic life.


Here I think YOU are wrong.

Ms Maniac X is playing a completely different game than either of you give
him credit for.


Montblack

[John Mazor[_2_]]

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
>
>> What I mean is there are enough assholes involved in
>> teaching ground
>> schools already. I've seen quite a few of them, most are
>> lucky to avoid
>> lynching after they teach. We have one in my place. never
>> a pilot but he
>> teaches some of our ground schools. Suffice to say he's
>> cut from the
>> same cloth as this moron.
>
> I wonder whether or not he says the same thing about his
> students--and who's
> actually right (if anyone).

Bertie is, especially when he takes the time to explain
something. Pay attention, you might actually learn
something about flying real airplanes.

(Well, one can hope, can't he?)

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
>
>> I'm sure he does. In fact he uses the same tactics you do to deflect
>> criticism, obfuscate his errors and generally bull**** his way
through
>> life.
>
> How do you know that he isn't actually just right?
>

Because he contradicts what I learned from Boeing, for starters, and he
doesn't know elementary portions of his supposed field of expertise,
performance. For instance, he doesn't know what a V2 Vs spread is, just
like you don't.



Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

"John Mazor" > wrote in news:q3UMh.95$un.51@trnddc03:

>
> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
>>
>>> What I mean is there are enough assholes involved in
>>> teaching ground
>>> schools already. I've seen quite a few of them, most are
>>> lucky to avoid
>>> lynching after they teach. We have one in my place. never
>>> a pilot but he
>>> teaches some of our ground schools. Suffice to say he's
>>> cut from the
>>> same cloth as this moron.
>>
>> I wonder whether or not he says the same thing about his
>> students--and who's
>> actually right (if anyone).
>
> Bertie is, especially when he takes the time to explain
> something. Pay attention, you might actually learn
> something about flying real airplanes.
>
> (Well, one can hope, can't he?)
>

I'm rather hoping for a new Ralphie, actually.



Bertie

[Mxsmanic]

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

> According to you own words $100 is equal to a week of your income so that
> particular cop-out doesn't fly.

My income isn't enough to cover my expenses, either.

> But you see, I knew you would refuse the challenge because it would prove
> that you really don't have a clue and aren't even willing to put a very
> little bit of your not very valuable time to prove that you do in fact have
> a clue.

I really am not interested in taking tests or accumulating credentials. I
have no use for them.

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[Mxsmanic]

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

> I think he knows he couldn't pass them and
> so he won't try.

I don't know whether I could pass them or not. I just don't see any purpose
to making the attempt. I'm not interested in the credential.

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[John Mazor[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
.130...
> "John Mazor" > wrote in
> news:q3UMh.95$un.51@trnddc03:
>
>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
>>>
>>>> What I mean is there are enough assholes involved in
>>>> teaching ground
>>>> schools already. I've seen quite a few of them, most
>>>> are
>>>> lucky to avoid
>>>> lynching after they teach. We have one in my place.
>>>> never
>>>> a pilot but he
>>>> teaches some of our ground schools. Suffice to say he's
>>>> cut from the
>>>> same cloth as this moron.
>>>
>>> I wonder whether or not he says the same thing about his
>>> students--and who's
>>> actually right (if anyone).
>>
>> Bertie is, especially when he takes the time to explain
>> something. Pay attention, you might actually learn
>> something about flying real airplanes.
>>
>> (Well, one can hope, can't he?)
>
> I'm rather hoping for a new Ralphie, actually.

Of course, but how often does a Ralphie come along?
Meanwhile, as Rumfeld almost said, if we can't fight the
loon we want, fight the loons we have.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Montblack wrote:
> ("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
>> Here I think you are wrong Doc. I think he knows he couldn't pass
>> them and so he won't try. His ego, which several times he has said
>> he doesn't have, won't let him. Plus, part of the deal was that he
>> never post here again and that would remove what is probably one of
>> the high point of his sad and pathetic life.
>
>
> Here I think YOU are wrong.
>
> Ms Maniac X is playing a completely different game than either of you
> give him credit for.
>
>
> Montblack

I can only assume you mean that he just does this crap for fun. I thought
that once as well. But it has gone on so long now that if it is the case he
really must be crazy. This isn't the kind of fun that would be fun for a
sane person for this long.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> Gig 601XL Builder writes:
>
>> According to you own words $100 is equal to a week of your income so
>> that particular cop-out doesn't fly.
>
> My income isn't enough to cover my expenses, either.
>
>> But you see, I knew you would refuse the challenge because it would
>> prove that you really don't have a clue and aren't even willing to
>> put a very little bit of your not very valuable time to prove that
>> you do in fact have a clue.
>
> I really am not interested in taking tests or accumulating
> credentials. I have no use for them.

Well here you go then this is a chance to earn some extra money.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> Gig 601XL Builder writes:
>
>> I think he knows he couldn't pass them and
>> so he won't try.
>
> I don't know whether I could pass them or not. I just don't see any
> purpose to making the attempt. I'm not interested in the credential.

As I said to earn some money.

[Rich Ahrens]

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Gig 601XL Builder writes:
>>
>>> OK then, I've offered $100 to the pot why don't you make a call and
>>> see what the test costs there. I'll bet we have a few more on the
>>> group that would add to the pot under the same conditions I proposed.
>> There's the cost of my time, transportation, lost wages, and so on.
>
> According to you own words $100 is equal to a week of your income so that
> particular cop-out doesn't fly.
>
>>> How much do you think it costs to take the written test anyway?
>> I don't know, but unless it's practically free, it would not be cost-
>> effective to take it.
>
> As I mentioned I'm sure there are others in the groupd that would be will to
> add to the pot to cover the cost of th tests.
>
> But you see, I knew you would refuse the challenge because it would prove
> that you really don't have a clue and aren't even willing to put a very
> little bit of your not very valuable time to prove that you do in fact have
> a clue.

This is a surprise? He can't be bothered to look up simple questions in a
search engine, after all...

[Mxsmanic]

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

> As I said to earn some money.

Having the credential would not earn as much money as it would cost.

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[601XL Builder]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> Gig 601XL Builder writes:
>
>> As I said to earn some money.
>
> Having the credential would not earn as much money as it would cost.
>

Ok then let me put it to you this way. If the test is paid for and the
$100 is in addition to the cost of the test would you do it?

[Mxsmanic]

601XL Builder writes:

> Ok then let me put it to you this way. If the test is paid for and the
> $100 is in addition to the cost of the test would you do it?

No, not for $100.

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[601XL Builder]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> 601XL Builder writes:
>
>> Ok then let me put it to you this way. If the test is paid for and the
>> $100 is in addition to the cost of the test would you do it?
>
> No, not for $100.
>

Well then you have proved that you are full of crap. $100 is a weeks
earnings for you that should be more than enough for a couple of hours work.

[Bertie the Bunyip]

On Mar 23, 6:32 pm, "John Mazor" > wrote:
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in messagenews:Xns98FCB78D5D8A8nunyfjukkinbidness@207 .14.116.130...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John Mazor" > wrote in
> >news:q3UMh.95$un.51@trnddc03:
>
> >> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
>
> >>>> What I mean is there are enough assholes involved in
> >>>> teaching ground
> >>>> schools already. I've seen quite a few of them, most
> >>>> are
> >>>> lucky to avoid
> >>>> lynching after they teach. We have one in my place.
> >>>> never
> >>>> a pilot but he
> >>>> teaches some of our ground schools. Suffice to say he's
> >>>> cut from the
> >>>> same cloth as this moron.
>
> >>> I wonder whether or not he says the same thing about his
> >>> students--and who's
> >>> actually right (if anyone).
>
> >> Bertie is, especially when he takes the time to explain
> >> something. Pay attention, you might actually learn
> >> something about flying real airplanes.
>
> >> (Well, one can hope, can't he?)
>
> > I'm rather hoping for a new Ralphie, actually.
>
> Of course, but how often does a Ralphie come along?
> Meanwhile, as Rumfeld almost said, if we can't fight the
> loon we want, fight the loons we have.

True, so true. Those were the days. Thinking about SnF and just
hoping Imight meet him there. Maybe leave him one of my cards....

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip]

On Mar 24, 4:21 am, 601XL Builder <wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet>
wrote:
> Mxsmanic wrote:
> > 601XL Builder writes:
>
> >> Ok then let me put it to you this way. If the test is paid for and the
> >> $100 is in addition to the cost of the test would you do it?
>
> > No, not for $100.
>
> Well then you have proved that you are full of crap.


I think he already said he had nothnig to prove.


Bertie
I

[Mxsmanic]

601XL Builder writes:

> Well then you have proved that you are full of crap. $100 is a weeks
> earnings for you that should be more than enough for a couple of hours work.

It would be a lot more than a couple of hours work.

You seem to believe that I feel compelled to prove something. I don't. I'm
not interested in credentials. Credentials are something you use to impress
other people (or at least people who are impressionable). I'm simply
interested in knowledge, whether it impresses others or not.

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[Kev]

On Mar 23, 3:51 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" > I can only assume you mean
that he just does this crap for fun. I thought
> that once as well. But it has gone on so long now that if it is the case he
> really must be crazy. This isn't the kind of fun that would be fun for a
> sane person for this long.

And what does that say about those who post hundreds of messages
talking about him ? It's gone on too long now, and isn't fun or
funny.

Just look at this thread. One good question, with a couple of good
answers. The other fifty posts are junk caused by you, Mx, Viper and
Bertie. Really, Gig and Doc, you used to have a decent rep here. Now
a useless obsession has taken over you.

Seriously, how about posting aviation content instead of playing
amateur psycholgists? I'd pay you each $1 ... surely that's enough
motivation? :-)

Thanks,
Kev

[swag]

On Mar 24, 4:36 am, "Kev" > wrote:
> On Mar 23, 3:51 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" > I can only assume you mean
> that he just does this crap for fun. I thought
>
> > that once as well. But it has gone on so long now that if it is the case he
> > really must be crazy. This isn't the kind of fun that would be fun for a
> > sane person for this long.
>
> And what does that say about those who post hundreds of messages
> talking about him ? It's gone on too long now, and isn't fun or
> funny.
>
> Just look at this thread. One good question, with a couple of good
> answers. The other fifty posts are junk caused by you, Mx, Viper and
> Bertie. Really, Gig and Doc, you used to have a decent rep here. Now
> a useless obsession has taken over you.
>
> Seriously, how about posting aviation content instead of playing
> amateur psycholgists? I'd pay you each $1 ... surely that's enough
> motivation? :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Kev

I'll second that. I read 51 messages. One good question and two good
answers and the rest psychobabble inspired mostly by bertie with a
supporting cast. It seems the simple act of asking a question
inspires rage. I'd chip in $.50 to keep them quiet.

[Bertie the Bunyip]

On Mar 23, 4:06 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
> > I'm sure he does. In fact he uses the same tactics you do to deflect
> > criticism, obfuscate his errors and generally bull**** his way through
> > life.
>
> How do you know that he isn't actually just right?
>

Because i know infinitely more about the subject than he does.. He's
an idiot. Just like you.



Bertie

[John Mazor[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in
message
oups.com...
> On Mar 23, 4:06 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>> Bertie the Bunyip writes:
>> > I'm sure he does. In fact he uses the same tactics you
>> > do to deflect
>> > criticism, obfuscate his errors and generally bull****
>> > his way through
>> > life.
>>
>> How do you know that he isn't actually just right?
>
> Because i know infinitely more about the subject than he
> does.. He's
> an idiot. Just like you.

I'm starting to wonder whether Tarver had a twin brother
that was separated at birth. MaxManiac has all the earmarks
of being part of the Splaps bloodline. Too bad you can't do
DNA testing on newsgroup posts.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

"Kev" > wrote in
oups.com:

> On Mar 23, 3:51 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" > I can only assume you mean
> that he just does this crap for fun. I thought
>> that once as well. But it has gone on so long now that if it is the
>> case he really must be crazy. This isn't the kind of fun that would
>> be fun for a sane person for this long.
>
> And what does that say about those who post hundreds of messages
> talking about him ? It's gone on too long now, and isn't fun or
> funny.

Depends on where you're sitting. If you're this easily upset, you had
best figure out how to use your killfile before I get warmed up.


>
> Just look at this thread. One good question, with a couple of good
> answers. The other fifty posts are junk caused by you, Mx, Viper and
> Bertie. Really, Gig and Doc, you used to have a decent rep here. Now
> a useless obsession has taken over you.
>
> Seriously, how about posting aviation content instead of playing
> amateur psycholgists?

I can do both. But I don't really see myelf as a pyschologist in this
instance..


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Gig 601XL Builder writes:
>
>> According to you own words $100 is equal to a week of your income so
>> that particular cop-out doesn't fly.
>
> My income isn't enough to cover my expenses, either.
>
>> But you see, I knew you would refuse the challenge because it would
>> prove that you really don't have a clue and aren't even willing to
>> put a very little bit of your not very valuable time to prove that
>> you do in fact have a clue.
>
> I really am not interested in taking tests or accumulating
> credentials. I have no use for them.
>

And they for you.


bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> 601XL Builder writes:
>
>> Well then you have proved that you are full of crap. $100 is a weeks
>> earnings for you that should be more than enough for a couple of
>> hours work.
>
> It would be a lot more than a couple of hours work.
>
> You seem to believe that I feel compelled to prove something. I
> don't.


You are a liar.


Bertei