Barnyard--- Auto engines

[Jerry Springer]

Barnyard
Here is another one for the UN-autopower crowd :-)

this happened this today close to where I live.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_080703_news_plane_crash.10742d371.html

[Morgans]

"Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
k.net...
> Barnyard
> Here is another one for the UN-autopower crowd :-)
>
> this happened this today close to where I live.
>
>
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_080703_news_plane_crash.10742d371.html
>
How about a quick recap of the story. I'll be d*mned if I'll sign up for a
news story.

--
Jim in NC--

[Jerry Springer]

Morgans wrote:
> "Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
> k.net...
>
>>Barnyard
>>Here is another one for the UN-autopower crowd :-)
>>
>>this happened this today close to where I live.
>>
>>
>
> http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_080703_news_plane_crash.10742d371.html
>
> How about a quick recap of the story. I'll be d*mned if I'll sign up for a
> news story.
>
Ok quick recap:-)

Lancair, Buick engine, onfire, landed on highway. Pilot ok, airplane
melted down to nothing.

Probably read about it in tomorrow's NTSB preliminaries

[Aardvarks]

Jerry Springer wrote:

> Morgans wrote:
>
>> "Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
>> k.net...
>>
>>> Barnyard
>>> Here is another one for the UN-autopower crowd :-)
>>>
>>> this happened this today close to where I live.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_080703_news_plane_crash.10742d371.html
>>
>>
>> How about a quick recap of the story. I'll be d*mned if I'll sign up
>> for a
>> news story.
>>

go to
http://www.kgw.com/
click on
"KGW report" next the the plane image, for video.
suggest highspeed connection.

I didnt have to signup :)

ww

[Big John]

Jerry

Thank you for tid bit.

I too don't sign up for anything on Internet any more.

Once bitten, thrice shy.

Sorry to see another bird go down.

Big John


On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 04:08:34 GMT, Jerry Springer
> wrote:

>Morgans wrote:
>> "Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
>> k.net...
>>
>>>Barnyard
>>>Here is another one for the UN-autopower crowd :-)
>>>
>>>this happened this today close to where I live.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_080703_news_plane_crash.10742d371.html
>>
>> How about a quick recap of the story. I'll be d*mned if I'll sign up for a
>> news story.
>>
>Ok quick recap:-)
>
>Lancair, Buick engine, onfire, landed on highway. Pilot ok, airplane
>melted down to nothing.
>
>Probably read about it in tomorrow's NTSB preliminaries

[Jerry Springer]

wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 04:08:34 GMT, Jerry Springer
> > wrote:
>
> :Ok quick recap:-)
> :
> :Lancair, Buick engine, onfire, landed on highway. Pilot ok, airplane
> :melted down to nothing.
> :
> :Probably read about it in tomorrow's NTSB preliminaries
>
> Good brief, concise. What size Buick engine? Thanks.

Not sure what engine size was, it was in a Lancair 360.

Jerry

[Barnyard BOb --]

wrote:

> Jerry Springer wrote:
>
>:Ok quick recap:-)
>:
>:Lancair, Buick engine, onfire, landed on highway. Pilot ok, airplane
>:melted down to nothing.
>:
>:Probably read about it in tomorrow's NTSB preliminaries
>
>Good brief, concise. What size Buick engine? Thanks.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What does it matter, other than.....
"The bigger they are, the harder they fall." <g>


Barnyard BOb --

[Barnyard BOb --]

>>
>It will be interesting to find out how the fire was caused. I've
>pointed out for years that the engines themselves rarely fail but the
>ancillary parts can be problematic. If a fuel line broke because of
>improper use of materials or using a solid connection rather than
>something that flexes, that could cause a fire real quickly.
>
>Even the professionally built Stewart S-51 had a number of engine
>outs, none of them caused by the engine itself.
>
>Corky Scott
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Professionally built means what?
Squat?

There are all kinds of "gotcha's".
Hopefully, a few less with the "PROS".
Possibly not. Depends on a number of factors...
and your definition of "professional'.

In the case of the Stewart S-51 with it's choice
of engine and high stall speed, it will remain a
"professional " time bomb for some time to come.

Unarguably, the devil is in the details. Stating the obvious...
there are infinitely less lethal issues to deal with when you fly
with the certified devils and dinosaurs that you know.

The least amount of "gotcha's" will remain with simple
certified aircraft. Next in line are homebuilts with certified
aircraft engines of the same garden variety.The reasons are
obvious... at least to someone like me with 50 years as an
airborne throttle jockey. If you do not concur, a couple
more decades of flight under your belt might help you
see the light and survive 50 years flight, yourself.


Barnyard BOb -

[Rick Pellicciotti]

"Jay" > wrote in message
om...
> Speaking of auto engines, what have people heard about Honda's
> development of a water-cooled temperature regulated light aircraft
> power plant? The ways those guys usually work, is you don't hear
> anything until its ready to ship. None of this, real soon now, almost
> there, come compete with me stuff.
>
The Honda/TCM engine was at Oshkosh. Looks like still a couple of years
away.

http://www.avweb.com/newswire/9_31b/leadnews/185413-1.html

Rick

[Corky Scott]

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:38:54 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
wrote:

>
>>>
>>It will be interesting to find out how the fire was caused. I've
>>pointed out for years that the engines themselves rarely fail but the
>>ancillary parts can be problematic. If a fuel line broke because of
>>improper use of materials or using a solid connection rather than
>>something that flexes, that could cause a fire real quickly.
>>
>>Even the professionally built Stewart S-51 had a number of engine
>>outs, none of them caused by the engine itself.
>>
>>Corky Scott
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>Professionally built means what?
>Squat?

>Barnyard BOb -
>
No sorry, that wasn't what I meant.

What I meant was that the engine and installation was done by people
who knew and understood what was and was not airworthy.

Sorry I confused you.

Corky Scott

[Larry Smith]

"Corky Scott" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:38:54 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >>>
> >>It will be interesting to find out how the fire was caused. I've
> >>pointed out for years that the engines themselves rarely fail but the
> >>ancillary parts can be problematic. If a fuel line broke because of
> >>improper use of materials or using a solid connection rather than
> >>something that flexes, that could cause a fire real quickly.
> >>
> >>Even the professionally built Stewart S-51 had a number of engine
> >>outs, none of them caused by the engine itself.
> >>
> >>Corky Scott
> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >Professionally built means what?
> >Squat?
>
> >Barnyard BOb -
> >
> No sorry, that wasn't what I meant.
>
> What I meant was that the engine and installation was done by people
> who knew and understood what was and was not airworthy.
>
> Sorry I confused you.
>
> Corky Scott
>

You didn't. You may have aggravated a pre-existing condition.

Keep us all posted on how the Ford is doing.

I'm working on an engine now with aluminum block. It's amazing how deck
height and bearing bosses and all the flanges and alignment can change, or
shift. But then the block is said to be seasoned and can be re-machined,
after which it usually is fairly stable.

I had a rear case on an A-65 dramatically change shape, so bad it had to be
hung up as a conversation piece, which I take to chapter meetings to show
how the bosses for the mags have cocked inwards about 7 degrees apiece and
the mating surface is no longer flat. It's magnesium, though. VW
successfully used magnesium cases for years and years, however.