Re: Lowrance 2000C ???

[Dave[_5_]]

I have a couple of questions regarding the 2000C:

1. What are the mounting options? I have never liked yoke mounts.

2. Will it work with a non-Lowrance amplified external antenna (I have
a permanent
unit on top of the fuselage that has worked flawlessly with my
Garmin).

Thanks in advance for any advice.

David Johnson

[WestCDA]

On the mount, they come with a yoke mount and a suction cup mount. It uses
standard RAM ball components, so if you want something else you can use
anything in the extensive RAM catalog of pieces to mount it pretty well any
way you like.

On the antenna, I suggest you contact Lowrance and give them your antenna
specifics. The antenna the 2000c comes with is an amplified unit.

"Dave" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I have a couple of questions regarding the 2000C:
>
> 1. What are the mounting options? I have never liked yoke mounts.
>
> 2. Will it work with a non-Lowrance amplified external antenna (I have
> a permanent
> unit on top of the fuselage that has worked flawlessly with my
> Garmin).
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice.
>
> David Johnson
>

[Dave[_5_]]

> On the antenna, I suggest you contact Lowrance and give them your antenna
> specifics. The antenna the 2000c comes with is an amplified unit.
>
I did some checking and found that the answer is apparently no. The
Lowrance external antenna runs on 3 - 3.3V and has a gain of 8 - 10
dB, whereas the antenna
I use with my Garmin can run on 4 - 24V and has a gain of 26 - 31 dB.
My Garmin puts out 5.8V on the antenna connector center pin with no
load. The Lowrance uses a type MCX connector, whereas the Garmin uses
a BNC. There are some non-Lowrance external antennas available that
will work with the 2000C, but those that I have found are "mouse"
style intended for use on the glareshield (vs mounted on the exterior
of the aircraft).

David Johnson

[Blueskies]

"Dave" > wrote in message oups.com...
:
: > On the antenna, I suggest you contact Lowrance and give them your antenna
: > specifics. The antenna the 2000c comes with is an amplified unit.
: >
: I did some checking and found that the answer is apparently no. The
: Lowrance external antenna runs on 3 - 3.3V and has a gain of 8 - 10
: dB, whereas the antenna
: I use with my Garmin can run on 4 - 24V and has a gain of 26 - 31 dB.
: My Garmin puts out 5.8V on the antenna connector center pin with no
: load. The Lowrance uses a type MCX connector, whereas the Garmin uses
: a BNC. There are some non-Lowrance external antennas available that
: will work with the 2000C, but those that I have found are "mouse"
: style intended for use on the glareshield (vs mounted on the exterior
: of the aircraft).
:
: David Johnson
:

FYI, many folks only use the built in antenna with the 2000C mounted on their yoke, and have no problems with lost
signals. I have mine hooked up with the Lowrance external antenna and have the wires tucked in along the edge of the
windshield. The 'mouse' is tucked in along the edge also, not obtrusive in the least and it causes no problems with my
compass...

[Walt]

On Mar 25, 7:38 am, "Dave" > wrote:
> I have a couple of questions regarding the 2000C:
>
> 1. What are the mounting options? I have never liked yoke mounts.
>
> 2. Will it work with a non-Lowrance amplified external antenna (I have
> a permanent
> unit on top of the fuselage that has worked flawlessly with my
> Garmin).
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice.
>
> David Johnson

FWIW (probably not much) I have a Lowrance 1000 and use the yoke
mount. I've never had to use the external antenna as reception is
great, both in a Piper Archer and a Cessna 172.

Since the Lowrance's mount is a RAM mount you should be able to find
the kind of mount you'd like, if you don't want it on the yoke. I've
used the suction cup mount that comes with the unit in my car and it
works very well; stayed on the windshield during a ten-hour road trip
from Bozeman to Denver, although it was pretty useless; kind of hard
to get lost when all you need to do is stay on I-25. But, it was
something to look at going through Wyoming besides treeless hills and
antelope. :>)

At any rate the RAM accessories should be varied enough so you can
find the kind of mount you like.

--Walt
Bozeman

[Dave[_3_]]

Same...

We have never used (or needed ) the ext antenna on ours..

Only time we lost sig was on a looooong x-wind taxi with the yoke
turned hard right....

Welll...

That DOES put the antenna down by one's knee dosen't it? :)

Dave



On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 08:22:21 -0400, "Blueskies"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave" > wrote in message oups.com...
>:
>: > On the antenna, I suggest you contact Lowrance and give them your antenna
>: > specifics. The antenna the 2000c comes with is an amplified unit.
>: >
>: I did some checking and found that the answer is apparently no. The
>: Lowrance external antenna runs on 3 - 3.3V and has a gain of 8 - 10
>: dB, whereas the antenna
>: I use with my Garmin can run on 4 - 24V and has a gain of 26 - 31 dB.
>: My Garmin puts out 5.8V on the antenna connector center pin with no
>: load. The Lowrance uses a type MCX connector, whereas the Garmin uses
>: a BNC. There are some non-Lowrance external antennas available that
>: will work with the 2000C, but those that I have found are "mouse"
>: style intended for use on the glareshield (vs mounted on the exterior
>: of the aircraft).
>:
>: David Johnson
>:
>
>FYI, many folks only use the built in antenna with the 2000C mounted on their yoke, and have no problems with lost
>signals. I have mine hooked up with the Lowrance external antenna and have the wires tucked in along the edge of the
>windshield. The 'mouse' is tucked in along the edge also, not obtrusive in the least and it causes no problems with my
>compass...
>

[Blueskies]

"Dave" > wrote in message ...
: Same...
:
: We have never used (or needed ) the ext antenna on ours..
:
: Only time we lost sig was on a looooong x-wind taxi with the yoke
: turned hard right....
:
: Welll...
:
: That DOES put the antenna down by one's knee dosen't it? :)
:
: Dave
:
:


You know, it is pretty amazing all the problems I hear about the Garmins loosing signal lock with the Garmin external
antenna. For more than 3x the price I would think they would have worked out all the bugs before selling it...

[Dave[_3_]]

Yeah... 'mazin....

The guys here with the Lowrance plug them in, turn them on and go
flyin.....us included...

The Garmin stuff seems to have.... ummm.... issues....

At least they (finally!) took the freakin magnets out of the
antenna...

For 3 X the price, no way are they worth it!

Strange.. the Garmin Marine GPS equipment seems to work very well,
and is priced competitively..

????

Dave




On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:03:32 GMT, "Blueskies"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave" > wrote in message ...
>: Same...
>:
>: We have never used (or needed ) the ext antenna on ours..ah..
>:
>: Only time we lost sig was on a looooong x-wind taxi with the yoke
>: turned hard right....
>:
>: Welll...
>:
>: That DOES put the antenna down by one's knee dosen't it? :)
>:
>: Dave
>:
>:
>
>
>You know, it is pretty amazing all the problems I hear about the Garmins loosing signal lock with the Garmin external
>antenna. For more than 3x the price I would think they would have worked out all the bugs before selling it...
>

[Dave Butler]

Dave wrote:

> For 3 X the price, no way are they worth it!

Not interested in defending Garmin, but I'm just curious. What Garmin
and Lowrance models have equivalent function and a 3:1 price differential?

[Thomas Borchert]

Dave,

> What Garmin
> and Lowrance models have equivalent function and a 3:1 price differential?
>

Equivalent is a big word. Have a look at the Lowrance Airmap 600c and the
Garmin 296. Very similar in their capabilities. Yes, the displays are a
little different. So is the stuff that comes with them. But generally, they
do the same thing. At a price difference of at least a factor 2.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Jonathan Goodish]

In article >,
Thomas Borchert > wrote:

> Dave,
>
> > What Garmin
> > and Lowrance models have equivalent function and a 3:1 price differential?
> >
>
> Equivalent is a big word. Have a look at the Lowrance Airmap 600c and the
> Garmin 296. Very similar in their capabilities. Yes, the displays are a
> little different. So is the stuff that comes with them. But generally, they
> do the same thing. At a price difference of at least a factor 2.

The Lowrance 600c and Garmin 296 are not comparable. In particular, the
296 has a much larger, higher-quality display with greater resolution.
The 296 is also a full featured marine GPS, and a full featured
automotive GPS with full auto-route calculation capability. And, if I
remember correctly, there are no approach waypoints in the aviation
database. Whether any of that matters to you is something only you can
determine.

Those are just some of the big differences that come to mind, but the
biggest difference, in my opinion, is the quality of the display. I
spent some time at the Lowrance booth at Sun-n-Fun this past week, and I
was not impressed with the displays on the 2000c or 600c. While
Lowrance has the screen orientation right (and Garmin has it wrong), the
display quality of the 296/396/496 is far superior to that of the
Lowrance units. I was quite disappointed in Lowrance, and certainly any
attempt to overlay XM weather on these lousy screens is going to be
quite disappointing.



JKG