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EridanMan
April 2nd 07, 11:54 PM
This was originally intended as a reply to MX's callous assumption
that ATP's look down on Private Pilots... But on further reflection, I
would actually like to break it out as a separate topic.
After a particularly beautiful X-country-for-the-hell-of-it this
weekend, I was filling out my log when I realized that I have now been
flying for exactly one year.
In that one year in the pilot's seat, I've seen beauty that defies
description... The Bay Area and Golden Gate Bridge Bathed in the
Auburn light of sunset... fog spilling over the peninsula mountains
into the bay like water... The Yosemite Valley in all of its glory,
shimmering in a late afternoon sun. The thrill of looking down a
runway (both on short final and takeoff roll), the pride that comes
from fighting a particularly gusty crosswind down to the numbers and
contacting the ground with two gentle 'tweet-tweets' of a perfectly
executed flare... Each of these (and countless others) experiences in
and of itself makes all of the expense, time and frustration worth
it.
But these in and of themselves do not scratch the surface.
In my year in the clouds, the most beautiful thing in aviation has
been simple - the camaraderie. Soon after starting flying, I did a
cross country with my instructor to a random little airport in the
central valley. While there at the FBO, I saw a cheesy poster on the
wall "There are no strangers in aviation, only friends who haven't met
yet". At the time I had the typical 'heh, that's lame' response of an
outsider. A year later my cynicism has washed away.
Be it the 744 crew who invited me on the flight deck and explained
some of the nuances of European vs American ATC procedures (when I
questioned them about 'Radar Identify'), or the A320 captain who spent
20 minutes during a ground delay explaining the systems and avionics
of his bird and how they compared to my Pa-28-140 (The type he learned
in). Be it the random stranger at Georgetown Airpark who invited me
over to have a hamburger and soda with him and his family during a
quick fuel stop, to the Mooney Pilot and A&P who helped me trouble
shoot a bad Mag and get my engine started at a quiet airfield near
Yosemite so I could get home in time for dinner... I could go on ad
infinitum...
This is not to say that all is roses, or that the aviation world is
perfect... Not everyone is friendly, not everyone are friends...
However, within aviation, it has been my experience that warmth and
friendship is the rule, not the exception. What an odd concept in our
cold, crowded, modern existence.
And I feel privileged and honored to be a part of it.
Thank you all.
-Scott
john smith[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 12:28 AM
Well said!
Viperdoc[_3_]
April 3rd 07, 12:34 AM
Unrelated to your original post, which was great, I am interested in some
day flying to Yosemite, and then spending time in the park. Can you
recommend an airport nearby that is close to the park?
EridanMan
April 3rd 07, 01:00 AM
On Apr 2, 3:34 pm, "Viperdoc" > wrote:
> Unrelated to your original post, which was great, I am interested in some
> day flying to Yosemite, and then spending time in the park. Can you
> recommend an airport nearby that is close to the park?
Two spring to mind:
I stopped at Mariposa/Yosemite:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMPI
Beautiful little field nestled in a low valley about 20nm downslope
from Yosemite itself. Runway is in great shape, there's a little BBQ
pit right there on the field, and its in a stunning setting. Avgas
was pretty cheap too (3.50 on Saturday).
The other Option would be Pine Mountain:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/E45
Nestled on a plateau about 15nm north of MPI, I used the field as a
Waypoint to start my flight (I flew up the Hetch Hetchy valley and
then down Yosemite and into MPI), but I didn't land there. The
surrounding terrain is pretty spectacular though.
KMPI has a well deserved reputation for being difficult to find (Sans
GPS), its a favorite target for the flight schools around here to try
and trick up students, and it works well. E45 is on an unmistakable
plateau, so its probably a bit easier to hit. Gas seems to be more
expensive though (at least according to airnav).
Either way, the valley itself is stunning... you'll really need to be
up around 13.5Kft to safely clear the regulated altitude clearance
(you can drop lower if you choose your course very carefully, but I
wouldn't recommend it without a good GPS... I settled for keeping high
and sightseeing during a couple 45 degree 360s). The descent down
from the valley into KMPI was fun too, loosing 9000 feet in 20 or so
nm. I was still a little hot and high when I settled in on final for
MPI's 26... a good chance for a deep-slipping-approach practice.
Overall, a very worthwhile flight. just don't forget the memory card
for your camera like I did:-P.
Morgans[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 01:06 AM
"EridanMan" > wrote
> This was originally intended as a reply to MX's callous assumption
> that ATP's look down on Private Pilots... But on further reflection, I
> would actually like to break it out as a separate topic.
Good choice. I encourage anyone and everyone to do exactly this, if there
is a thought you would like to follow up, without pollution from other
influences. I (and numerous others) would have missed this well written
post, if you had not started a new thread, since I block anything "he"
touches.
> This is not to say that all is roses, or that the aviation world is
> perfect... Not everyone is friendly, not everyone are friends...
> However, within aviation, it has been my experience that warmth and
> friendship is the rule, not the exception. What an odd concept in our
> cold, crowded, modern existence.
>
> And I feel privileged and honored to be a part of it.
Aviation certainly gives a unique capacity that not many other hobbies, or
interests can match.
There are many other close knit groups that have similar closeness and
sharing, besides aviation though. It is the strong commitment and common
interests that ties groups together.
--
Jim in NC
Morgans[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 01:09 AM
"Dudley Henriques" > wrote
> Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that the ATP is simply
> one type of rating....nothing more....nothing less.
No need. He would not listen, or learn.
That is not his goal, anyway. It is to bait and goad, simply and
completely.
Besides, any one response is one response too many.
--
Jim in NC
Mxsmanic
April 3rd 07, 01:40 AM
Dudley Henriques writes:
> Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that the ATP is simply one
> type of rating....nothing more....nothing less. You need one, you get one.
> You don't need one, you fly on what you have. Simple! No big deal at all!
Kind of like a PPL.
--
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Morgans[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 01:43 AM
"Dudley Henriques" > wrote
> Its a figure of speech Jim....not really an invitation for someone to
> actually bother to tell him :-)
Doh! Here I thought you really were interested in telling him something!
<g>
--
Jim in NC
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 01:47 AM
"EridanMan" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> This was originally intended as a reply to MX's callous assumption
> that ATP's look down on Private Pilots...
Not that the ATP isn't a good rating to aspire to mind you, and a whole slew
of good pilots have one, but it never ceases to amaze me when someone
outside of our business begins placing the throne of God on the ATP rating
and attempting to portray the rating as the absolute ultimate proof of a
pilot's ability and experience.
Some of the finest pilots in the world don't have ATP ratings. Its not
because they can't qualify for the rating, but rather because they have no
NEED for the rating.
Just two of the pilots I know who fall into this category are Bob Hoover and
Chuck Yeager, neither of whom have an ATP as they simply don't need one.
Both are Commercially rated with Instruments and have various type
endorsements and endorsements of LOA.
Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that the ATP is simply one
type of rating....nothing more....nothing less. You need one, you get one.
You don't need one, you fly on what you have. Simple! No big deal at all!
Dudley Henriques
Rip
April 3rd 07, 01:53 AM
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Dudley Henriques writes:
>
>
>>Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that the ATP is simply one
>>type of rating....nothing more....nothing less. You need one, you get one.
>>You don't need one, you fly on what you have. Simple! No big deal at all!
>
>
> Kind of like a PPL.
>
Poor sot. You'll never know. How sad.
EridanMan
April 3rd 07, 01:56 AM
On Apr 2, 4:40 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Dudley Henriques writes:
> > Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that the ATP is simply one
> > type of rating....nothing more....nothing less. You need one, you get one.
> > You don't need one, you fly on what you have. Simple! No big deal at all!
>
> Kind of like a PPL.
>
> --
> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
In terms of camaraderie, a PPL holds no more weight than a student or
recreational ticket (Hell, I found as a student people were MORE than
friendly... My long X-country was one of the most fun experiences of
my life)... in fact the ticket itself is meaningless.
All that matters is a passion for flight... Taking a vehicle into the
sky, and the rights, privileges, freedoms, responsibilities and risks
therein.
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 02:33 AM
"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote
>
>> Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that the ATP is simply
>> one type of rating....nothing more....nothing less.
>
> No need. He would not listen, or learn.
>
> That is not his goal, anyway. It is to bait and goad, simply and
> completely.
>
> Besides, any one response is one response too many.
> --
> Jim in NC
Its a figure of speech Jim....not really an invitation for someone to
actually bother to tell him :-)
DH
Mxsmanic
April 3rd 07, 03:40 AM
EridanMan writes:
> All that matters is a passion for flight... Taking a vehicle into the
> sky, and the rights, privileges, freedoms, responsibilities and risks
> therein.
I wish the FAA felt that way.
--
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Bertie the Bunyip
April 3rd 07, 04:30 AM
On 3 Apr, 01:53, Rip > wrote:
> Mxsmanic wrote:
> > Dudley Henriques writes:
>
> >>Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that the ATP is simply one
> >>type of rating....nothing more....nothing less. You need one, you get one.
> >>You don't need one, you fly on what you have. Simple! No big deal at all!
>
> > Kind of like a PPL.
>
> Poor sot. You'll never know. How sad.
Good giref. Found the poast below there a few minutes ago. You a very
very disturbed little boi, wannabe..
Bertie
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Hardpan writes:
> For those males/men who don't understand where "Mxsmanic" is coming
> from, you have to understand this person is a self-admitted.
> non-sexual male who has never had sex with anyone and does not like
> the idea of sexual relationships at all.
> Any advice this so-called male ,"Mxsmanic", gives you as a shy
> heterosexual male, comes from the perspective of a so-called
> "male" who, by his own words, has admitted here that he has _NO_ as in
> _NADA_, (Spanish for NO) sexual urges for women whatsoever, and
> maintains totally non-sexual "friendships" with women, much as
> Gay/Homosexual men are said to often do.
There's quite a lengthy book about a man who never had sex and didn't
like sex, and you should be able to find it in any bookstore. It's
called _The New Testament_.
--
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Bertie the Bunyip
April 3rd 07, 04:31 AM
On 3 Apr, 03:40, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> EridanMan writes:
> > All that matters is a passion for flight... Taking a vehicle into the
> > sky, and the rights, privileges, freedoms, responsibilities and risks
> > therein.
>
> I wish the FAA felt that way.
>
Why, becaue they would never let you fly?
Bertie
Tim
April 3rd 07, 04:39 AM
Mxsmanic wrote:
> EridanMan writes:
>
>
>>All that matters is a passion for flight... Taking a vehicle into the
>>sky, and the rights, privileges, freedoms, responsibilities and risks
>>therein.
>
>
> I wish the FAA felt that way.
>
So get an ultralight. they are cheap and require no medical.
Jay Honeck
April 3rd 07, 04:44 AM
> And I feel privileged and honored to be a part of it.
Beautiful, Scott. Well done.
I have said it here many times -- we are all truly blessed to be able
to partake in this wondrous thing called flight. The joy and wonder
we feel each time we climb into the sky is unparalleled in any other
realm of human existence.
I feel only sorrow for the ground-bound members of our race. I know
their frustration well, as I spent my first 35 years on the ground,
looking up.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 05:54 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I have said it here many times -- we are all truly blessed to be able
> to partake in this wondrous thing called flight. The joy and wonder
> we feel each time we climb into the sky is unparalleled in any other
> realm of human existence.
Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
Anderson!!!!
:-))
DH
Maxwell
April 3rd 07, 06:15 AM
"Tim" > wrote in message
...
> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> EridanMan writes:
>>
>>
>>>All that matters is a passion for flight... Taking a vehicle into the
>>>sky, and the rights, privileges, freedoms, responsibilities and risks
>>>therein.
>>
>>
>> I wish the FAA felt that way.
>>
>
> So get an ultralight. they are cheap and require no medical.
He could never learn to fly anyway. He'd have to listen to someone to learn
fly, and that is completely beyond him.
John Mazor[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 07:13 AM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in
message
oups.com...
> On 3 Apr, 01:53, Rip > wrote:
>> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> > Dudley Henriques writes:
>>
>> >>Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that
>> >>the ATP is simply one
>> >>type of rating....nothing more....nothing less. You
>> >>need one, you get one.
>> >>You don't need one, you fly on what you have. Simple!
>> >>No big deal at all!
>>
>> > Kind of like a PPL.
>>
>> Poor sot. You'll never know. How sad.
>
> Good giref. Found the poast below there a few minutes ago.
> You a very
> very disturbed little boi, wannabe..
>
> Bertie
>
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> From: Mxsmanic >
> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:10:27 +0200
> Local: Sun 25 Jun 2006 14:10
> Subject: Re: Mxsmanic:(Was :" I hate being attracted to a
> girl")
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> Hardpan writes:
>> For those males/men who don't understand where "Mxsmanic"
>> is coming
>> from, you have to understand this person is a
>> self-admitted.
>> non-sexual male who has never had sex with anyone and
>> does not like
>> the idea of sexual relationships at all.
>
>> Any advice this so-called male ,"Mxsmanic", gives you as
>> a shy
>> heterosexual male, comes from the perspective of a
>> so-called
>> "male" who, by his own words, has admitted here that he
>> has _NO_ as in
>> _NADA_, (Spanish for NO) sexual urges for women
>> whatsoever, and
>> maintains totally non-sexual "friendships" with women,
>> much as
>> Gay/Homosexual men are said to often do.
>
> There's quite a lengthy book about a man who never had sex
> and didn't
> like sex, and you should be able to find it in any
> bookstore. It's
> called _The New Testament_.
Although the details are convoluted to the point of TMI, the
sexual dysfunction would explain his desire for unisex
toilets. And come to think of it, his mania for getting
stoned to death by those with greater authority might
signify a crucifixion complex. Anybody know if he goes
around in robes and sandals and sports a pointy beard?
OTOH, he doesn't have even one, let alone 12 disciples, so
he could just be another Internet ****** with delusions of
intellectual superiority, a.k.a "kook" a.k.a. "loon" a.k.a.
"mediocre troll".
Mxsmanic
April 3rd 07, 10:38 AM
Tim writes:
> So get an ultralight. they are cheap and require no medical.
Ultralights are of no interest to me.
--
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David[_3_]
April 3rd 07, 02:08 PM
>> "EridanMan" > wrote
>> This is not to say that all is roses, or that the aviation world is
>> perfect... Not everyone is friendly, not everyone are friends...
>> However, within aviation, it has been my experience that warmth and
>> friendship is the rule, not the exception. What an odd concept in our
>> cold, crowded, modern existence.
>>
>> And I feel privileged and honored to be a part of it.
>"Morgans" replied in message ... Aviation certainly gives a unique
>capacity that not many other hobbies, or interests can match.
>
> There are many other close knit groups that have similar closeness and
> sharing, besides aviation though. It is the strong commitment and common
> interests that ties groups together.
> --
> Jim in NC
>
Jim,
Yesterday my daughter and I drove to KFQD aka: Rutherford County Airport.
We went there because of an article in the most recent "Pilot Getaways" mag.
It had an article about this airport and the on-field restaurant, so off we
went.
When we got there I realized that I didn't bring any money and the closest
town was at least 6 miles back. So I asked the gentleman working at the
restaurant where I find an ATM so that could have lunch there (they only
accept cash) and he said not to worry about paying him today, that I
could pay him next time I came by there.
Now I don't know where else you would get that kind of response,
But it sure was nice to hear.
We did drive back to town for an ATM machine despite his offer, but
came back for a nice cheeseburger and soda.
Yes we could have saved a few dollars by just eating in town at Mc D's
but I don't think Mc D's would have waived the charge till next time.
So if you ever find yourself around KFQD, stop in and see Ron at
the "57 Alpha Cafe" you'll really enjoy the atmosphere and the people.
David - KGYH
Jay Honeck
April 3rd 07, 02:50 PM
> > I have said it here many times -- we are all truly blessed to be able
> > to partake in this wondrous thing called flight. The joy and wonder
> > we feel each time we climb into the sky is unparalleled in any other
> > realm of human existence.
>
> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
> Anderson!!!!
Okay, maybe we should omit that "joy" part of my statement, now that
you mention it...
;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Montblack
April 3rd 07, 03:47 PM
("Dudley Henriques" wrote)
> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
> Anderson!!!!
Are you sure?
Evidence of their tryst might be on Jay's video page, somewhere.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm
#1 hit in Google: "aviation videos"
Montblack
ManhattanMan
April 3rd 07, 03:54 PM
Dudley Henriques wrote:
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>
>> I have said it here many times -- we are all truly blessed to be able
>> to partake in this wondrous thing called flight. The joy and wonder
>> we feel each time we climb into the sky is unparalleled in any other
>> realm of human existence.
>
>
> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
> Anderson!!!!
Keyword: Hepatitus-C :(
Unless it was a long time ago :)
Maxwell
April 3rd 07, 04:05 PM
"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Dudley Henriques" wrote)
>> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
>> Anderson!!!!
>
>
> Are you sure?
>
> Evidence of their tryst might be on Jay's video page, somewhere.
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm
> #1 hit in Google: "aviation videos"
>
>
If it is, I bet it's not linked to the home page.
Paul Tomblin
April 3rd 07, 04:19 PM
In a previous article, "Dudley Henriques" > said:
>"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> I have said it here many times -- we are all truly blessed to be able
>> to partake in this wondrous thing called flight. The joy and wonder
>> we feel each time we climb into the sky is unparalleled in any other
>> realm of human existence.
>
>
>Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
>Anderson!!!!
He doesn't fly a plastic airplane *or* a plastic person.
--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying,
and about flying when he's with a woman.
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 04:24 PM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> > I have said it here many times -- we are all truly blessed to be able
>> > to partake in this wondrous thing called flight. The joy and wonder
>> > we feel each time we climb into the sky is unparalleled in any other
>> > realm of human existence.
>>
>> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
>> Anderson!!!!
>
> Okay, maybe we should omit that "joy" part of my statement, now that
> you mention it...
>
> ;-)
:-)))))))))))
D
Jay Beckman
April 3rd 07, 04:52 PM
"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ("Dudley Henriques" wrote)
>>> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
>>> Anderson!!!!
>>
>>
>> Are you sure?
>>
>> Evidence of their tryst might be on Jay's video page, somewhere.
>
> I have to admit; if it was me, I'd be faced with the ultimate paradox of
> man; that being my desire to shout my "success" to my fellow men one and
> all, countered by my
> latent fear of being shot by my wife :-))
> Dudley Henriques
>
With the difference between "Shout" and "Shot" being one letter, there's a
joke in here somewhere, I just know it!!
Paging Dr Montblack...
<gg>
Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 05:03 PM
"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Dudley Henriques" wrote)
>> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
>> Anderson!!!!
>
>
> Are you sure?
>
> Evidence of their tryst might be on Jay's video page, somewhere.
I have to admit; if it was me, I'd be faced with the ultimate paradox of
man; that being my desire to shout my "success" to my fellow men one and
all, countered by my
latent fear of being shot by my wife :-))
Dudley Henriques
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 06:05 PM
"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
...
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Montblack" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> ("Dudley Henriques" wrote)
>>>> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
>>>> Anderson!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you sure?
>>>
>>> Evidence of their tryst might be on Jay's video page, somewhere.
>>
>> I have to admit; if it was me, I'd be faced with the ultimate paradox of
>> man; that being my desire to shout my "success" to my fellow men one and
>> all, countered by my
>> latent fear of being shot by my wife :-))
>> Dudley Henriques
>>
>
> With the difference between "Shout" and "Shot" being one letter, there's a
> joke in here somewhere, I just know it!!
Jay, my wife just hollered down here and said to tell you the joke is the
thought of ME getting to have sex with Pamela Anderson!! :-))
Dudley
Jim Burns[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 06:38 PM
If man had never looked to the heavens and dared to dream, we'd still be
earthbound.... dream on Dudley, dream on!!! We're all behind you...(in
line!) ;)
Jim
Montblack
April 3rd 07, 08:09 PM
("Jim Burns" wrote)
> If man had never looked to the heavens and dared to dream, we'd still be
> earthbound.... dream on Dudley, dream on!!! We're all behind you...(in
> line!) ;)
Unfortunately, after ("rocker") Tommy Lee, size might matter to her.
Pamela: "Favorite plane?"
Montblack: "Cri-Cri"
Pamela: "NEXT!"
Montblack: "Can I change my answer, to a Quickie?"
Pamela: "NEXT! That quick enough for ya?
Montblack: I'm also partial to the Mini-IMP.
Pamela: "SECURITY!"
Montblack: "Oh boy, here come the handcuffs"
Dumb and Dumber (1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109686/quotes
Lloyd: What are the chances of a guy like you and a girl like me... ending
up together?
Mary: Well, that's pretty difficult to say.
Lloyd: Hit me with it! I've come a long way to see you, Mary. The least you
can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance.
Gig 601XL Builder
April 3rd 07, 09:43 PM
Montblack wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, after ("rocker") Tommy Lee, size might matter to her.
>
I fought myself all morning from not bringing that issue up.
Tommy Lee: C-5
Maxwell
April 3rd 07, 09:51 PM
"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> Montblack wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, after ("rocker") Tommy Lee, size might matter to her.
>>
>
> I fought myself all morning from not bringing that issue up.
>
> Tommy Lee: C-5
I would hope size doesn't matter, or at least no very much.
I'm not having reduction surgery for anyone!!!!
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
April 3rd 07, 10:46 PM
"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
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> From: "Dudley Henriques" >
>
>>Jay, my wife just hollered down here and said to tell you the joke is the
>>thought of ME getting to have sex with Pamela Anderson!! :-))
>>Dudley
>
> I had heard a rumor that there WAS someone who hadn't. :)
"Ouch"
Perhaps if I show her some male sympathy and give her a friendly shoulder to
cry on after she reads this...........................mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!! An
idea forms.............just maybe......................just maybe I'll get
lucky!!! :-))
DH
Gig 601XL Builder
April 3rd 07, 11:06 PM
Maxwell wrote:
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>> Montblack wrote:
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, after ("rocker") Tommy Lee, size might matter to her.
>>>
>>
>> I fought myself all morning from not bringing that issue up.
>>
>> Tommy Lee: C-5
>
> I would hope size doesn't matter, or at least no very much.
>
> I'm not having reduction surgery for anyone!!!!
If you are bigger than Tommy Lee you aren't special. You put you pants on
one leg at a time... all three of them.
Dave[_1_]
April 4th 07, 12:33 AM
I might mention it occassionally, 'cept for my lack of desire to find
out what somewhat less than 1/2 of my net worth might be..
.....assuming I would get to see it divided...
Dave
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:03:09 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
> wrote:
>
>"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
>> ("Dudley Henriques" wrote)
>>> Are we to assume from this that you have never had sex with Pamela
>>> Anderson!!!!
>>
>>
>> Are you sure?
>>
>> Evidence of their tryst might be on Jay's video page, somewhere.
>
>I have to admit; if it was me, I'd be faced with the ultimate paradox of
>man; that being my desire to shout my "success" to my fellow men one and
>all, countered by my
>latent fear of being shot by my wife :-))
>Dudley Henriques
>
Bertie the Bunyip
April 6th 07, 06:35 PM
On Apr 3, 8:13 am, "John Mazor" > wrote:
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in
> ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3 Apr, 01:53, Rip > wrote:
> >> Mxsmanic wrote:
> >> > Dudley Henriques writes:
>
> >> >>Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is that
> >> >>the ATP is simply one
> >> >>type of rating....nothing more....nothing less. You
> >> >>need one, you get one.
> >> >>You don't need one, you fly on what you have. Simple!
> >> >>No big deal at all!
>
> >> > Kind of like a PPL.
>
> >> Poor sot. You'll never know. How sad.
>
> > Good giref. Found the poast below there a few minutes ago.
> > You a very
> > very disturbed little boi, wannabe..
>
> > Bertie
>
> > . Mxsmanic View profile
> > More options 25 Jun 2006, 14:10
>
> > Newsgroups: alt.support.shyness
> > From: Mxsmanic >
> > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:10:27 +0200
> > Local: Sun 25 Jun 2006 14:10
> > Subject: Re: Mxsmanic:(Was :" I hate being attracted to a
> > girl")
> > Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message |
> > Show original
> > | Report this message | Find messages by this author
>
> > Hardpan writes:
> >> For those males/men who don't understand where "Mxsmanic"
> >> is coming
> >> from, you have to understand this person is a
> >> self-admitted.
> >> non-sexual male who has never had sex with anyone and
> >> does not like
> >> the idea of sexual relationships at all.
>
> >> Any advice this so-called male ,"Mxsmanic", gives you as
> >> a shy
> >> heterosexual male, comes from the perspective of a
> >> so-called
> >> "male" who, by his own words, has admitted here that he
> >> has _NO_ as in
> >> _NADA_, (Spanish for NO) sexual urges for women
> >> whatsoever, and
> >> maintains totally non-sexual "friendships" with women,
> >> much as
> >> Gay/Homosexual men are said to often do.
>
> > There's quite a lengthy book about a man who never had sex
> > and didn't
> > like sex, and you should be able to find it in any
> > bookstore. It's
> > called _The New Testament_.
>
> Although the details are convoluted to the point of TMI, the
> sexual dysfunction would explain his desire for unisex
> toilets.
Maybe ther is only one sex on his home planet..
Bertie
John Mazor[_2_]
April 6th 07, 11:39 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in
message
oups.com...
> On Apr 3, 8:13 am, "John Mazor" >
> wrote:
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote
>> in
>> ooglegroups.com...
>>
>> > On 3 Apr, 01:53, Rip > wrote:
>> >> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> >> > Dudley Henriques writes:
>>
>> >> >>Somebody please inform Mxsmanic or whatever it is
>> >> >>that
>> >> >>the ATP is simply one
>> >> >>type of rating....nothing more....nothing less. You
>> >> >>need one, you get one.
>> >> >>You don't need one, you fly on what you have.
>> >> >>Simple!
>> >> >>No big deal at all!
>>
>> >> > Kind of like a PPL.
>>
>> >> Poor sot. You'll never know. How sad.
>>
>> > Good giref. Found the poast below there a few minutes
>> > ago.
>> > You a very
>> > very disturbed little boi, wannabe..
>>
>> > Bertie
>>
>> > . Mxsmanic View profile
>> > More options 25 Jun 2006, 14:10
>>
>> > Newsgroups: alt.support.shyness
>> > From: Mxsmanic >
>> > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:10:27 +0200
>> > Local: Sun 25 Jun 2006 14:10
>> > Subject: Re: Mxsmanic:(Was :" I hate being attracted to
>> > a
>> > girl")
>> > Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message
>> > |
>> > Show original
>> > | Report this message | Find messages by this author
>>
>> > Hardpan writes:
>> >> For those males/men who don't understand where
>> >> "Mxsmanic"
>> >> is coming
>> >> from, you have to understand this person is a
>> >> self-admitted.
>> >> non-sexual male who has never had sex with anyone and
>> >> does not like
>> >> the idea of sexual relationships at all.
>>
>> >> Any advice this so-called male ,"Mxsmanic", gives you
>> >> as
>> >> a shy
>> >> heterosexual male, comes from the perspective of a
>> >> so-called
>> >> "male" who, by his own words, has admitted here that
>> >> he
>> >> has _NO_ as in
>> >> _NADA_, (Spanish for NO) sexual urges for women
>> >> whatsoever, and
>> >> maintains totally non-sexual "friendships" with women,
>> >> much as
>> >> Gay/Homosexual men are said to often do.
>>
>> > There's quite a lengthy book about a man who never had
>> > sex
>> > and didn't
>> > like sex, and you should be able to find it in any
>> > bookstore. It's
>> > called _The New Testament_.
>>
>> Although the details are convoluted to the point of TMI,
>> the
>> sexual dysfunction would explain his desire for unisex
>> toilets.
>
> Maybe ther is only one sex on his home planet..
Or none.
Bertie the Bunyip
April 7th 07, 04:28 AM
On 3 Apr, 10:38, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Tim writes:
> > So get an ultralight. they are cheap and require no medical.
>
> Ultralights are of no interest to me.
>
Why should they be of any more interest than any other airplane.
You don't fly, period.
Bertie
george
April 7th 07, 04:41 AM
On Apr 3, 9:38 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Tim writes:
> > So get an ultralight. they are cheap and require no medical.
>
> Ultralights are of no interest to me.
>
Because they have to be flown ?
Roger[_4_]
April 12th 07, 04:41 AM
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:46:01 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
> wrote:
>
>"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message
...
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>> From: "Dudley Henriques" >
>>
>>>Jay, my wife just hollered down here and said to tell you the joke is the
>>>thought of ME getting to have sex with Pamela Anderson!! :-))
>>>Dudley
>>
>> I had heard a rumor that there WAS someone who hadn't. :)
>
>"Ouch"
>Perhaps if I show her some male sympathy and give her a friendly shoulder to
>cry on after she reads this...........................mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!! An
>idea forms.............just maybe......................just maybe I'll get
>lucky!!! :-))
Some times we just don't realize how lucky we are.
>DH
>
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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