departure or arrival?

[George]

Is this one of a point of departure or a point of impact? I can't tell.

http://airforce.ru/photogallery/gallery8/mi-8t/index.htm

George

[Clem]

George > wrote in news:5ycUh.4182$H_5.2932
@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net:

> http://airforce.ru/photogallery/gallery8/mi-8t/index.htm

It's really a bad imitation of an elephant circus act. You know, the one
where the elephant stands on his head and moves sideways.

[Hans Holbein]

George schrieb:
> Is this one of a point of departure or a point of impact? I can't tell.
>
> http://airforce.ru/photogallery/gallery8/mi-8t/index.htm
>

Neither -Nor

the forward rotorblade-tip is not on the picture
There is a guy standing and holding evrything in balance

;-)

[Dave LaCourse]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:28:55 -0600, George >
wrote:

>Is this one of a point of departure or a point of impact? I can't tell.
>
>http://airforce.ru/photogallery/gallery8/mi-8t/index.htm
>
>George

I hope it is a departure. I flew in a HI8 (HIP) out of Petropavlosk
on a fly fishing trip two years ago. We landed and took off several
times (dropping off flyfisherman on the Zhaponova River). Every time
we took off by heart skpped *several* beats. It was a noisy,
uncomfortable flight, but I'd do it again to catch the big rainbows
Kamchatka has to offer.

Dave

[George]

Hans Holbein wrote:
> George schrieb:
>> Is this one of a point of departure or a point of impact? I can't tell.
>>
>> http://airforce.ru/photogallery/gallery8/mi-8t/index.htm
>>
>
> Neither -Nor
>
> the forward rotorblade-tip is not on the picture
> There is a guy standing and holding evrything in balance
>
> ;-)
Riiiiiiigghhhhtt!!!!

Now why didn't I figure that out by myself????

[Al Denelsbeck]

George > wrote in news:5ycUh.4182$H_5.2932
@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net:

> Is this one of a point of departure or a point of impact? I can't tell.
>
> http://airforce.ru/photogallery/gallery8/mi-8t/index.htm
>
> George


I have to admit, Hans' answer has a lot going for it... ;-)

But I have to say this is very likely a fast liftoff. The rotor
blades are showing greater pitch at the back of the rotor disk, towards the
tail, which is forward cyclic control. Plus there's a lot of debris in the
air, which is less likely to be seen should he be plunging into the ground,
since the rotor downwash would be catching up from behind.

And then, there's the idea that the photographer would probably have
a complete sequence of the crash photos, or would not even have gotten this
one because he was scrambling for cover ;-)

So I'm inclined to say this was a running takeoff, transitioning into
forward motion even before pulling enough collective to lift off.
Potentially he's heavily loaded, and trying to gain some transitional lift
from forward motion since full hovering takeoffs require more power.



- Al.

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[Scubabix]

I tend to agree with Al, but either way, I'm glad I'm not on board.
Rob

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> Is this one of a point of departure or a point of impact? I can't tell.
>
> http://airforce.ru/photogallery/gallery8/mi-8t/index.htm
>
> George