Positioning of navs and strobes on the wing tip???

[DonMorrisey]

Hello group.

Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?

I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.

Thanks for the help. Don....

[Vaughn Simon]

"DonMorrisey" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hello group.
>
> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
>
> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.

I believe that the nav lights are only supposed to be seen from 180 degrees
or so. At night, you should be able to determine the relative direction of an
observed plane by the pattern of lights. Certainly there is a regulation
somewhere, but if you just take a walk around the parking area at your local
small airport, you will get the idea of where they go.

Vaughn

[Ernest Christley]

DonMorrisey wrote:
> Hello group.
>
> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
>
> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
>
> Thanks for the help. Don....
>

http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Experiments/Dyke_Experiment_LED.html

Just a little ways down the page shows how the lights should be laid out.

[Peter Dohm]

"Ernest Christley" > wrote in message
...
> DonMorrisey wrote:
> > Hello group.
> >
> > Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
> > Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
> >
> > I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
> > mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
> > other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
> >
> > Thanks for the help. Don....
> >
>
> http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Experiments/Dyke_Experiment_LED.html
>
> Just a little ways down the page shows how the lights should be laid out.

The actual rule on this for US registered aircraft, AFAIK, is Part 23; which
is on line at:
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_04/14cfr23_04.html The position
lighting portion begins at 23.1383

Peter

[Michelle P]

DonMorrisey wrote:
> Hello group.
>
> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
>
> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
>
> Thanks for the help. Don....
>
Visibility should be 120 degrees per position.
Left from nose counter clockwise to 120 degrees
Right from nose clockwise to 120 degrees
Rear the remaining 120. Must be visible from above and below as well. AC
43-13 or Part 23 would have the legal answer.

Michelle

[DonMorrisey]

Thanks Peter and Ernest, that is exactly what I was looking for.

Don.

[Ernest Christley]

Peter Dohm wrote:
> "Ernest Christley" > wrote in message
> ...
>> DonMorrisey wrote:
>>> Hello group.
>>>
>>> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
>>> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
>>>
>>> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
>>> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
>>> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help. Don....
>>>
>> http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Experiments/Dyke_Experiment_LED.html
>>
>> Just a little ways down the page shows how the lights should be laid out.
>
> The actual rule on this for US registered aircraft, AFAIK, is Part 23; which
> is on line at:
> http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_04/14cfr23_04.html The position
> lighting portion begins at 23.1383
>
> Peter
>
>

Those are the portions quoted on my webpage, but thanks for that link.
I haven't found a reference where all the sections were seperated out
into easily digestable pieces.

[Ernest Christley]

Michelle P wrote:
> DonMorrisey wrote:
>> Hello group.
>>
>> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
>> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
>>
>> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
>> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
>> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
>>
>> Thanks for the help. Don....
>>
> Visibility should be 120 degrees per position.
> Left from nose counter clockwise to 120 degrees
> Right from nose clockwise to 120 degrees
> Rear the remaining 120. Must be visible from above and below as well. AC
> 43-13 or Part 23 would have the legal answer.
>
> Michelle

The side lights span 110 degrees. The rear covers 140.

[Peter Dohm]

"Ernest Christley" > wrote in message
...
> Michelle P wrote:
> > DonMorrisey wrote:
> >> Hello group.
> >>
> >> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
> >> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
> >>
> >> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
> >> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
> >> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the help. Don....
> >>
> > Visibility should be 120 degrees per position.
> > Left from nose counter clockwise to 120 degrees
> > Right from nose clockwise to 120 degrees
> > Rear the remaining 120. Must be visible from above and below as well. AC
> > 43-13 or Part 23 would have the legal answer.
> >
> > Michelle
>
> The side lights span 110 degrees. The rear covers 140.

I believe that the rear position light spans something like 180 to 190
degrees.

Peter

[jerry wass]

Peter Dohm wrote:
> "Ernest Christley" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Michelle P wrote:
>>> DonMorrisey wrote:
>>>> Hello group.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
>>>> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
>>>>
>>>> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
>>>> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
>>>> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help. Don....
>>>>
>>> Visibility should be 120 degrees per position.
>>> Left from nose counter clockwise to 120 degrees
>>> Right from nose clockwise to 120 degrees
>>> Rear the remaining 120. Must be visible from above and below as well. AC
>>> 43-13 or Part 23 would have the legal answer.
>>>
>>> Michelle
>> The side lights span 110 degrees. The rear covers 140.
>
> I believe that the rear position light spans something like 180 to 190
> degrees.
>
> Peter
>
>

Yeah, ya gotta have it span more'n 180° er ya couldn't tell which
direction the observed plane was a goin'..(when it's flyin 90° to your
line of sight)

[jerry wass]

Jerry Wass wrote:
> Peter Dohm wrote:
>> "Ernest Christley" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Michelle P wrote:
>>>> DonMorrisey wrote:
>>>>> Hello group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
>>>>> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip to
>>>>> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
>>>>> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the help. Don....
>>>>>
>>>> Visibility should be 120 degrees per position.
>>>> Left from nose counter clockwise to 120 degrees
>>>> Right from nose clockwise to 120 degrees
>>>> Rear the remaining 120. Must be visible from above and below as
>>>> well. AC
>>>> 43-13 or Part 23 would have the legal answer.
>>>>
>>>> Michelle
>>> The side lights span 110 degrees. The rear covers 140.
>>
>> I believe that the rear position light spans something like 180 to 190
>> degrees.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, ya gotta have it span more'n 180° er ya couldn't tell which
> direction the observed plane was a goin'..(when it's flyin 90° to your
> line of sight)
OOP'S---Logic don work--the BOOK says Red & Green--from dead ahead to
110°toward the stern... White 140° total 70° each side of dead astern...

You KNOW which way it's goin, by the colour of the lite!!

[Peter Dohm]

"Jerry Wass" > wrote in message
et...
> Jerry Wass wrote:
> > Peter Dohm wrote:
> >> "Ernest Christley" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Michelle P wrote:
> >>>> DonMorrisey wrote:
> >>>>> Hello group.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there a regualtion/description detailing how/where Nav/Strobe/
> >>>>> Position lights get mounted on the wing tip?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have Aeroflash lights and am ready to cut my fiberglass wing tip
to
> >>>>> mount them but am wondering if there are specific recommendations
> >>>>> other than they should be seen from 360 degrees.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the help. Don....
> >>>>>
> >>>> Visibility should be 120 degrees per position.
> >>>> Left from nose counter clockwise to 120 degrees
> >>>> Right from nose clockwise to 120 degrees
> >>>> Rear the remaining 120. Must be visible from above and below as
> >>>> well. AC
> >>>> 43-13 or Part 23 would have the legal answer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michelle
> >>> The side lights span 110 degrees. The rear covers 140.
> >>
> >> I believe that the rear position light spans something like 180 to 190
> >> degrees.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, ya gotta have it span more'n 180° er ya couldn't tell which
> > direction the observed plane was a goin'..(when it's flyin 90° to your
> > line of sight)
> OOP'S---Logic don work--the BOOK says Red & Green--from dead ahead to
> 110°toward the stern... White 140° total 70° each side of dead astern...
>
> You KNOW which way it's goin, by the colour of the lite!!

Thanks for the update, I hadn't read it in a long time.

Peter

[Ernest Christley]

Peter Dohm wrote:

>>> Yeah, ya gotta have it span more'n 180° er ya couldn't tell which
>>> direction the observed plane was a goin'..(when it's flyin 90° to your
>>> line of sight)
>> OOP'S---Logic don work--the BOOK says Red & Green--from dead ahead to
>> 110°toward the stern... White 140° total 70° each side of dead astern...
>>
>> You KNOW which way it's goin, by the colour of the lite!!
>
> Thanks for the update, I hadn't read it in a long time.
>
> Peter
>
>

There's also a spec about the maximum amount of overlap that is allowed.
It's not much.