Heading to Oshkosh

[Harry[_2_]]

I need some advice from those of you who have had the thrill of attending
Oshkosh. This year for the first time, I will be going. Unfortunately, in a
car :-(. However, what I'm looking for is given that I will only be able to
attend 1 day maybe 2 at the outside, what should I focus on? In other words,
what would be the biggest bang for my buck? BTW, I read on the EAA web link
today that the U-2 will be there this year. Obviously that is a must see.

Thanks.

Harry

[Jay Honeck]

> I need some advice from those of you who have had the thrill of attending
> Oshkosh. This year for the first time, I will be going. Unfortunately, in a
> car :-(. However, what I'm looking for is given that I will only be able to
> attend 1 day maybe 2 at the outside, what should I focus on?

Well, clearly you'll want to attend the annual rec.aviation North 40
Party, which is always held on Wednesday night.

:-) See pix of the 2006 edition here:

http://alexisparkinn.com/wed_-_north_40_party.htm

Admission is a 6-pack of good beer. Points are added if the beer is
opaque, while points are deducted if you can see through it. Bonus
points for local microbrews that folks don't normally get to sample.

Beyond that, you'll only be able to hit the high points, as one or two
days will only scratch the surface. A lot depends on your orientation
-- are you more into homebuilts, or warbirds? Classics or LSAs?
OSH has something for everyone, and you'll have time to MAYBE hit your
top one or two things...

But don't let that deter you. Soak it all in, and revel in it. This
will be our 25th consecutive OSH, and we STILL haven't seen
everything!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Harry" > wrote

> I need some advice from those of you who have had the thrill of attending
> Oshkosh. This year for the first time, I will be going. Unfortunately, in
> a car :-(. However, what I'm looking for is given that I will only be
> able to attend 1 day maybe 2 at the outside, what should I focus on? In
> other words, what would be the biggest bang for my buck? BTW, I read on
> the EAA web link today that the U-2 will be there this year. Obviously
> that is a must see.

My advise is to wait to go on a year that you can spend at least 5 days. 1
day is a waste of time, and 2 days is almost as bad.

If you insist on going, it would be helpful to know what your interests are.
Everything aviation is there. Without knowing, there is no way to advise
you.
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("Morgans" wrote)
> My advise is to wait to go on a year that you can spend at least 5 days.
> 1 day is a waste of time, and 2 days is almost as bad.


Morgans has just given you good advise, yet is completely wrong. Hmm? <g>

Experience OSH like you're going to a lake cabin for a (two day)
mini-vacation. Sit, relax, watch things fly overhead, get up and walk
around, explore a few nooks and crannies, sit and watch all of the planes
taxi past, relax, enjoy, etc...

My bit of advise:
Walk around, looking at the planes near the middle of the (N/S) runway,
during the afternoon Air Shows (2:30pm - 6pm). Wear a radio headset - to
listen to the field announcer.


Montblack

[Harry[_2_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> I need some advice from those of you who have had the thrill of attending
>> Oshkosh. This year for the first time, I will be going. Unfortunately, in
>> a
>> car :-(. However, what I'm looking for is given that I will only be able
>> to
>> attend 1 day maybe 2 at the outside, what should I focus on?
>
> Well, clearly you'll want to attend the annual rec.aviation North 40
> Party, which is always held on Wednesday night.
>
> :-) See pix of the 2006 edition here:
>
> http://alexisparkinn.com/wed_-_north_40_party.htm
>
> Admission is a 6-pack of good beer. Points are added if the beer is
> opaque, while points are deducted if you can see through it. Bonus
> points for local microbrews that folks don't normally get to sample.
>
> Beyond that, you'll only be able to hit the high points, as one or two
> days will only scratch the surface. A lot depends on your orientation
> -- are you more into homebuilts, or warbirds? Classics or LSAs?
> OSH has something for everyone, and you'll have time to MAYBE hit your
> top one or two things...
>
> But don't let that deter you. Soak it all in, and revel in it. This
> will be our 25th consecutive OSH, and we STILL haven't seen
> everything!
>
> :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

Jay, I'll be looking forward to hear about your party but unfortunately,
I'll not be able to attend. And just let me mention also the reason I won't
be able to attend Oshkosh more than one or two days is that we will be
visiting our kids in Appleton, WI, and considering there will be 5 of us, I
just can't afford the daily admission for all of us to attend each day.

Since, I'm retired Air Force, I'll probably be focusing on the military,
especially that U-2.

Thanks for the reply,

Harry

[Harry[_2_]]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Harry" > wrote
>
>> I need some advice from those of you who have had the thrill of attending
>> Oshkosh. This year for the first time, I will be going. Unfortunately, in
>> a car :-(. However, what I'm looking for is given that I will only be
>> able to attend 1 day maybe 2 at the outside, what should I focus on? In
>> other words, what would be the biggest bang for my buck? BTW, I read on
>> the EAA web link today that the U-2 will be there this year. Obviously
>> that is a must see.
>
> My advise is to wait to go on a year that you can spend at least 5 days.
> 1 day is a waste of time, and 2 days is almost as bad.
>
> If you insist on going, it would be helpful to know what your interests
> are. Everything aviation is there. Without knowing, there is no way to
> advise you.
> --
> Jim in NC
>
>

Jim, going to Oshkosh for one or two days is like going to the beach - you
can't see "everything" but you can enjoy what you do see :-). As I mentioned
in my reply to Jay, being retired Air Force, I'll probably be looking at the
military acft. We were up there a couple of years ago (not during the flyin)
and went through the EAA museum so I don't think I will be spending time in
there.

Thanks.

Harry

[Harry[_2_]]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Morgans" wrote)
>> My advise is to wait to go on a year that you can spend at least 5 days.
>> 1 day is a waste of time, and 2 days is almost as bad.
>
>
> Morgans has just given you good advise, yet is completely wrong. Hmm? <g>
>
> Experience OSH like you're going to a lake cabin for a (two day)
> mini-vacation. Sit, relax, watch things fly overhead, get up and walk
> around, explore a few nooks and crannies, sit and watch all of the planes
> taxi past, relax, enjoy, etc...
>
> My bit of advise:
> Walk around, looking at the planes near the middle of the (N/S) runway,
> during the afternoon Air Shows (2:30pm - 6pm). Wear a radio headset - to
> listen to the field announcer.
>
>
> Montblack
>

Thank you, Montblack. Your suggestions pretty much fall into the general
approach of what we are going to do - just enjoy it.

Harry

[Jay Honeck]

> >Well, clearly you'll want to attend the annual rec.aviation North 40
> >Party, which is always held on Wednesday night.
>
> Since folks thought the 110 proof applejack I brought last year was on
> the weak side, this year I'm upping it to 175.
>
> Jay, can you get some "danger, flamable" signs?

Done. I'll peel 'em off the "Mighty Grape"!

Actually, I thought that applejack stuff was FANtastic. Deadly, but
quite good...

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Jay, I'll be looking forward to hear about your party but unfortunately,
> I'll not be able to attend. And just let me mention also the reason I won't
> be able to attend Oshkosh more than one or two days is that we will be
> visiting our kids in Appleton, WI, and considering there will be 5 of us, I
> just can't afford the daily admission for all of us to attend each day.

Dang. Well, we'll drink a toast to you and the kids! (You *could*
try ditching the kids for a day... :-)

> Since, I'm retired Air Force, I'll probably be focusing on the military,
> especially that U-2.

Aeroshell Square is where you'll find the current Air Force stuff.
It's the very center of the AirVenture showline, so you won't miss
it. For old stuff, you'll have to wander down to the Warbirds, at
the far North end of the showline. Once there, you'll be just a hop,
skip and a jump from the North 40 -- so you might as well plan on
stopping out to our campsite. (You can find us by giving our tail
number to any EAA camping check-in booth -- they'll vector you in from
there.)

Every afternoon (after the airshows) we pull chairs up to Rwy 27 and
watch arrivals/departures. IMHO that is the REAL airshow, and (if
Montblack doesn't give it all away to a bunch of young CFIs again!)
we'll have a cold one for ya!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Harry[_2_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> Jay, I'll be looking forward to hear about your party but unfortunately,
>> I'll not be able to attend. And just let me mention also the reason I
>> won't
>> be able to attend Oshkosh more than one or two days is that we will be
>> visiting our kids in Appleton, WI, and considering there will be 5 of us,
>> I
>> just can't afford the daily admission for all of us to attend each day.
>
> Dang. Well, we'll drink a toast to you and the kids! (You *could*
> try ditching the kids for a day... :-)
>
>> Since, I'm retired Air Force, I'll probably be focusing on the military,
>> especially that U-2.
>
> Aeroshell Square is where you'll find the current Air Force stuff.
> It's the very center of the AirVenture showline, so you won't miss
> it. For old stuff, you'll have to wander down to the Warbirds, at
> the far North end of the showline. Once there, you'll be just a hop,
> skip and a jump from the North 40 -- so you might as well plan on
> stopping out to our campsite. (You can find us by giving our tail
> number to any EAA camping check-in booth -- they'll vector you in from
> there.)
>
> Every afternoon (after the airshows) we pull chairs up to Rwy 27 and
> watch arrivals/departures. IMHO that is the REAL airshow, and (if
> Montblack doesn't give it all away to a bunch of young CFIs again!)
> we'll have a cold one for ya!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

I'll definitely add your campsite to my list of visits. Hopefully, we'll see
you and your fellow campers there. And thanks again for the info.

Harry

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Harry" > wrote

> Jim, going to Oshkosh for one or two days is like going to the beach - you
> can't see "everything" but you can enjoy what you do see :-). As I
> mentioned in my reply to Jay, being retired Air Force, I'll probably be
> looking at the military acft. We were up there a couple of years ago (not
> during the flyin) and went through the EAA museum so I don't think I will
> be spending time in there.

If you are going for a visit with kids, and this is a side trip, it makes
more sense to do what you are saying, but to drive any distance for one
day?.... I wouldn't do it, myself.

Get there early enough to watch the morning arrivals. Grab the daily free
magazine to see what special activities are going on that day. I would try
to be at the gate when they open, what, at 9:00, maybe? You can find out at
the website. It is really something to see all of the arrivals land, 3 at a
time on 9/27.

After watching that for a while, take a stroll though warbirds (they are on
that end) and then along the side of 18/36 and that will take you through
the show homebuilt planes. Many of them put the factory planes to shame.

After you pass through all of them, and you get to the main taxiway, turn
right into Aero Shell Square, and see the static military, a few warbirds,
and a few civil transports, probably. By that time, it is time to eat a
bite, or you could bring a cooler and eat your own and save a lot of money
and grease.

Walk back towards 18/36 and turn right to walk down towards the older
factory planes, and wander off to the left and right when you see something
that interests you. If you keep going, you will get to the ultra lights,
but they will not be flying at that time of day.

Head back towards Aero Shell Square, and look though the commercial
exhibits, or go out and find a sitting area to watch the air show, depending
on time. Watch the air show if that interests you, and as it finishes up,
head back towards 9/27 to go to Jay's camp and have a cold one and watch the
afternoon arrivals, but go back that way more towards the left, to see some
sights along that road.

You did bring very comfortable shoes, and lots of high number sunblock, and
a water bottle, and if possible, a three leg portable stool, didn't you?
You will need all of those things.
--
Jim in NC

[Jim Burns[_2_]]

That's my typical daily route when I drive over for the day. Park in the
Red Lot near 9/27 and the north 40. Start with the warbirds, work south,
eat, drink, gawk, dream, wish, and shop, then head back north/east to the
flight line for the airshow, after that head to the North 40 as per Jay's
invitation and afterwards your car won't be too far away.

If I don't have anything specific that I want to spend time on, two full
days works ok for getting a general feel for the latest and greatest.
Jim Burns

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Harry" > wrote
>
> > Jim, going to Oshkosh for one or two days is like going to the beach -
you
> > can't see "everything" but you can enjoy what you do see :-). As I
> > mentioned in my reply to Jay, being retired Air Force, I'll probably be
> > looking at the military acft. We were up there a couple of years ago
(not
> > during the flyin) and went through the EAA museum so I don't think I
will
> > be spending time in there.
>
> If you are going for a visit with kids, and this is a side trip, it makes
> more sense to do what you are saying, but to drive any distance for one
> day?.... I wouldn't do it, myself.
>
> Get there early enough to watch the morning arrivals. Grab the daily free
> magazine to see what special activities are going on that day. I would
try
> to be at the gate when they open, what, at 9:00, maybe? You can find out
at
> the website. It is really something to see all of the arrivals land, 3 at
a
> time on 9/27.
>
> After watching that for a while, take a stroll though warbirds (they are
on
> that end) and then along the side of 18/36 and that will take you through
> the show homebuilt planes. Many of them put the factory planes to shame.
>
> After you pass through all of them, and you get to the main taxiway, turn
> right into Aero Shell Square, and see the static military, a few warbirds,
> and a few civil transports, probably. By that time, it is time to eat a
> bite, or you could bring a cooler and eat your own and save a lot of money
> and grease.
>
> Walk back towards 18/36 and turn right to walk down towards the older
> factory planes, and wander off to the left and right when you see
something
> that interests you. If you keep going, you will get to the ultra lights,
> but they will not be flying at that time of day.
>
> Head back towards Aero Shell Square, and look though the commercial
> exhibits, or go out and find a sitting area to watch the air show,
depending
> on time. Watch the air show if that interests you, and as it finishes up,
> head back towards 9/27 to go to Jay's camp and have a cold one and watch
the
> afternoon arrivals, but go back that way more towards the left, to see
some
> sights along that road.
>
> You did bring very comfortable shoes, and lots of high number sunblock,
and
> a water bottle, and if possible, a three leg portable stool, didn't you?
> You will need all of those things.
> --
> Jim in NC
>
>

[Harry[_2_]]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Harry" > wrote
>
>> Jim, going to Oshkosh for one or two days is like going to the beach -
>> you can't see "everything" but you can enjoy what you do see :-). As I
>> mentioned in my reply to Jay, being retired Air Force, I'll probably be
>> looking at the military acft. We were up there a couple of years ago (not
>> during the flyin) and went through the EAA museum so I don't think I will
>> be spending time in there.
>
> If you are going for a visit with kids, and this is a side trip, it makes
> more sense to do what you are saying, but to drive any distance for one
> day?.... I wouldn't do it, myself.
>
<SNIP> --
> Jim in NC
>

Jim, we will only be 20 miles from Oshkosh so there is no problem driving.
Thank you for the detailed sightseeing route.

Harry

[Harry[_2_]]

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> That's my typical daily route when I drive over for the day. Park in the
> Red Lot near 9/27 and the north 40. Start with the warbirds, work south,
> eat, drink, gawk, dream, wish, and shop, then head back north/east to the
> flight line for the airshow, after that head to the North 40 as per Jay's
> invitation and afterwards your car won't be too far away.
>
> If I don't have anything specific that I want to spend time on, two full
> days works ok for getting a general feel for the latest and greatest.
> Jim Burns
>
<snip>

Thanks, Jim. I just finished spending about 10 minutes looking at the EAA
web site trying to determine the best place to park and here, you answered
my question. Appreciate it.

Harry

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote

> Do they still do the "flyby" pattern on 18/36 during the day? Years ago,
> there would be lots of homebuilts and other aircraft going round and
> round...

Yes, for one hour, I think from one to two PM. They call it the homebuilt
showcase, and it is about 10 or 15 invited aircraft, making about 3 circuits
per aircraft. It tends to focus on one aspect each day.
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("Harry" wrote)
> Thank you, Montblack. Your suggestions pretty much fall into the general
> approach of what we are going to do - just enjoy it.


To be clear, radio headset means AM/FM radio. They broadcast (EAA/OSH) all
day long on a local radio station.

As for the other kind of radio, I might not even bring my handheld (w/rubber
ducky antenna) to OSH this year. Not a "must have" item, and I find I turn
it on less and less each year.

There is the volunteer option - for free admission. <g>

If you're 20 miles away, swing by every other day and do what the locals
do - pull up a lawn chair at the local Hardee's, or across the street from
the post office, and watch the planes fly over your location. Around 6:30 pm
(in the Hardee's parking lot) is a VERY good spot. Cops will let you stay
there if you order something.

Another good (locals) spot is on the south end roads, near the Ultralight
Pasture. You'll be pulled off to the side of the road, in farm country,
watching the action. Calm air means more ultralights flying around.


Montblack

[Harry[_2_]]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Harry" wrote)
>> Thank you, Montblack. Your suggestions pretty much fall into the general
>> approach of what we are going to do - just enjoy it.
>
>
> To be clear, radio headset means AM/FM radio. They broadcast (EAA/OSH) all
> day long on a local radio station.
>
> As for the other kind of radio, I might not even bring my handheld
> (w/rubber ducky antenna) to OSH this year. Not a "must have" item, and I
> find I turn it on less and less each year.
>
<snip>
> Montblack
>

Thank you for reading my mind! :-)

Harry

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote
>
>> Do they still do the "flyby" pattern on 18/36 during the day? Years ago,
>> there would be lots of homebuilts and other aircraft going round and
>> round...
>
> Yes, for one hour, I think from one to two PM. They call it the homebuilt
> showcase, and it is about 10 or 15 invited aircraft, making about 3
> circuits per aircraft. It tends to focus on one aspect each day.
> --
> Jim in NC


Ok, Thanks. 30 years ago, it was more of a free for all - anyone could go up
and join in. I did it - once.

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Margy Natalie]

Richard Riley wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2007 20:40:03 -0700, Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
>
>>>I need some advice from those of you who have had the thrill of attending
>>>Oshkosh. This year for the first time, I will be going. Unfortunately, in a
>>>car :-(. However, what I'm looking for is given that I will only be able to
>>>attend 1 day maybe 2 at the outside, what should I focus on?
>>
>>Well, clearly you'll want to attend the annual rec.aviation North 40
>>Party, which is always held on Wednesday night.
>
>
> Since folks thought the 110 proof applejack I brought last year was on
> the weak side, this year I'm upping it to 175.
>
> Jay, can you get some "danger, flamable" signs?
hmmmm, applejack, hmmmmmmm

It was good applejack! I'll be back!!!

Margy

[Margy Natalie]

Harry wrote:
> "Morgans" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Harry" > wrote
>>
>>
>>>Jim, going to Oshkosh for one or two days is like going to the beach -
>>>you can't see "everything" but you can enjoy what you do see :-). As I
>>>mentioned in my reply to Jay, being retired Air Force, I'll probably be
>>>looking at the military acft. We were up there a couple of years ago (not
>>>during the flyin) and went through the EAA museum so I don't think I will
>>>be spending time in there.
>>
>>If you are going for a visit with kids, and this is a side trip, it makes
>>more sense to do what you are saying, but to drive any distance for one
>>day?.... I wouldn't do it, myself.
>>
>
> <SNIP> --
>
>>Jim in NC
>>
>
>
> Jim, we will only be 20 miles from Oshkosh so there is no problem driving.
> Thank you for the detailed sightseeing route.
>
> Harry
>
>
If you are only in Appleton you can drive up just for the party on
Wednesday :-). No admission to the north forty :-).

Ron flew (commercial) into Appleton one year as he had to be in SF on
business. I flew the Navion and we both had camping gear in case I hit
weather. He landed at Appleton and gave me a call as he boarded the bus
for OSH. I walked from Vintage camping to the front gate and we arrived
at the same time. Transportation at OSH is good.

Margy

[Harry[_2_]]

"Margy Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
> Harry wrote:
>> "Morgans" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
<snip>>
>>
> If you are only in Appleton you can drive up just for the party on
> Wednesday :-). No admission to the north forty :-).
>
> Ron flew (commercial) into Appleton one year as he had to be in SF on
> business. I flew the Navion and we both had camping gear in case I hit
> weather. He landed at Appleton and gave me a call as he boarded the bus
> for OSH. I walked from Vintage camping to the front gate and we arrived
> at the same time. Transportation at OSH is good.
>
> Margy

Margy, our daughter and son-in-law live in Appleton and he will be taking a
couple of days off while we are there so transportation won't be a problem
:-). But again, making the Wed. night party is a no can do, sorry :-(.

Harry

[john smith[_2_]]

In article >,
"Harry" > wrote:

> Jay, I'll be looking forward to hear about your party but unfortunately,
> I'll not be able to attend. And just let me mention also the reason I won't
> be able to attend Oshkosh more than one or two days is that we will be
> visiting our kids in Appleton, WI, and considering there will be 5 of us, I
> just can't afford the daily admission for all of us to attend each day.

Harry, admission to the party is free (well, accept for a six-pack of
adult beverage, one per family). We can get your whole family in with a
"pass". Bring 'em down Wednesday and meet everyone, and get a good meal
in the process. It is a family friendly gathering for aviators of all
ages.

[Harry[_2_]]

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Harry" > wrote:
>
>> Jay, I'll be looking forward to hear about your party but unfortunately,
>> I'll not be able to attend. And just let me mention also the reason I
>> won't
>> be able to attend Oshkosh more than one or two days is that we will be
>> visiting our kids in Appleton, WI, and considering there will be 5 of us,
>> I
>> just can't afford the daily admission for all of us to attend each day.
>
> Harry, admission to the party is free (well, accept for a six-pack of
> adult beverage, one per family). We can get your whole family in with a
> "pass". Bring 'em down Wednesday and meet everyone, and get a good meal
> in the process. It is a family friendly gathering for aviators of all
> ages.

John, I vaguely remember reading about your previous Oshkosh parties :-). I
know, I will be missing an exciting event. Thanks for the invite.

Harry

[Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)]

I'm not sure if you'll be able to squeeze this in, but if you have any
interest, you may want to check the schedule to see if any of the major
speakers will be talking. People like Chuck Yeager and Bob Hoover may
not be around too much longer. (On the other hand, they might outlast
me.) Several years ago Medal of Honor recipient Adm. Stockdale spoke
there, and Gemini/Apollo/Skylab astronaut Pete Conrad was a regular EAA
supporter. They're no longer with us.

[Harry[_2_]]

Thanks, Paul.

"Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)" > wrote in
message ...
> I'm not sure if you'll be able to squeeze this in, but if you have any
> interest, you may want to check the schedule to see if any of the major
> speakers will be talking. People like Chuck Yeager and Bob Hoover may not
> be around too much longer. (On the other hand, they might outlast me.)
> Several years ago Medal of Honor recipient Adm. Stockdale spoke there, and
> Gemini/Apollo/Skylab astronaut Pete Conrad was a regular EAA supporter.
> They're no longer with us.

[RST Engineering]

We sort of think that we are all (sniff) major speakers, just on different
subjects and with different backgrounds.

{;-)


Jim



"Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)" > wrote in
message ...
> I'm not sure if you'll be able to squeeze this in, but if you have any
> interest, you may want to check the schedule to see if any of the major
> speakers will be talking.

[Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)]

D'oh! I can't seem to type anything without offending someone. Of
course you're going to be around for a long, long time yet. We've got
to get your presentation over to Pavilion #7. That way you won't have
the competition. It's all about marketing too. The Rutans and
VanGrunsven have got people talking about them. We got to get some sexy
babes to generate some buzz around the grounds for your talks. Just
like those cell phone companies hire good looking people to hang around
bars with their latest gadgets in order to generate interest.

I was surprised to see the demand for presentations has gotten so large
that some talks started at 7 PM. A couple of those were quite
interesting because the put the truly fringe experimental topics at the
late times.

Paul

RST Engineering wrote:
> We sort of think that we are all (sniff) major speakers, just on different
> subjects and with different backgrounds.
>
> {;-)
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> "Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)" > wrote in
> message ...
>> I'm not sure if you'll be able to squeeze this in, but if you have any
>> interest, you may want to check the schedule to see if any of the major
>> speakers will be talking.
>
>

[RST Engineering]

"Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)" > wrote in
message ...

> D'oh! I can't seem to type anything without offending someone.

YOu didn't see the smiley face?

Of
> course you're going to be around for a long, long time yet.

Hm. For the first time since I turned 63, I felt my age last week diving
for a hot grounder over the bag that would have gone for extra bases. Ten
years ago I'd have come up with that sucker and beat the runner to the base;
all I could do this time was knock it down and keep it in the infield.

We've got
> to get your presentation over to Pavilion #7. That way you won't have the
> competition. It's all about marketing too. The Rutans and VanGrunsven
> have got people talking about them.

Hell, I always know when I'm speaking. I just look at the schedule for
either Rutan or Machado; I'm always against one or the other of them. For
about five years running, Machado and I had a running joke because I was
ALWAYS in the same tent just ahead of him like an opening act.


We got to get some sexy
> babes to generate some buzz around the grounds for your talks. Just like
> those cell phone companies hire good looking people to hang around bars
> with their latest gadgets in order to generate interest.

Gee, I sort of like Gail, Margy and Mary hanging around. That's "babe"
enough for me.


>
> I was surprised to see the demand for presentations has gotten so large
> that some talks started at 7 PM. A couple of those were quite interesting
> because the put the truly fringe experimental topics at the late times.


Is that 7 AM or 7 PM???

Jim

[john smith[_2_]]

In article >,
"RST Engineering" > wrote:

> We got to get some sexy
> > babes to generate some buzz around the grounds for your talks. Just like
> > those cell phone companies hire good looking people to hang around bars
> > with their latest gadgets in order to generate interest.
>
> Gee, I sort of like Gail, Margy and Mary hanging around. That's "babe"
> enough for me.

Spoken like a true politician. ;-)

[RST Engineering]

Just wait until I call for a little pot in every chick.

{;-)

Jim



"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "RST Engineering" > wrote:
>
>> We got to get some sexy
>> > babes to generate some buzz around the grounds for your talks. Just
>> > like
>> > those cell phone companies hire good looking people to hang around bars
>> > with their latest gadgets in order to generate interest.
>>
>> Gee, I sort of like Gail, Margy and Mary hanging around. That's "babe"
>> enough for me.
>
> Spoken like a true politician. ;-)

[Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)]

RST Engineering wrote:
> "Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)" > wrote in
> message ...
>
>> D'oh! I can't seem to type anything without offending someone.
>
> You didn't see the smiley face?
Yes, I was just being lazy by not typing my own smiley back. Now I had
to make the effort of typing another letter instead of just typing :-)
originally. I can't win :-)
>
> Of course you're going to be around for a long, long time yet.
>
> Hm. For the first time since I turned 63, I felt my age last week diving
> for a hot grounder over the bag that would have gone for extra bases. Ten
> years ago I'd have come up with that sucker and beat the runner to the base;
> all I could do this time was knock it down and keep it in the infield.

I forget what comedian I heard say this, but it's been my philosophy
too: "God put me on this planet with a finite number of heartbeats, so I
don't want to waste them exercising."
>
>> I was surprised to see the demand for presentations has gotten so large
>> that some talks started at 7 PM. A couple of those were quite interesting
>> because the put the truly fringe experimental topics at the late times.
>
> Is that 7 AM or 7 PM???
>
The first forum is at 8:30 AM. I thought I kept the previous year's
AirVenture Today papers, but I must have left them at the local
aerodrome. I thought nothing ever disappeared from the Internet, but I
can't find the forum schedules from last year to verify the times. I do
remember that some started very late after the airshow. One was on the
XCOR rocket racers.

Like their web site shows...2 months, 3 weeks to go.

[Montblack]

("Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)" wrote)
> I forget what comedian I heard say this, but it's been my philosophy too:
> "God put me on this planet with a finite number of heartbeats, so I don't
> want to waste them exercising."


That would be wacky 'funny man' ....Neil Armstrong.


Montblack :-)

[[email protected]]

"Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)" > wrote:
> I thought nothing ever disappeared from the Internet, but I can't find
> the forum schedules from last year to verify the times.

http://web.archive.org/

It doesn't catch everything and it doesn't always work (try outside of
North American "prime time" for better luck) but when it works it's
pretty cool.

Matt Roberds

[Margy Natalie]

john smith wrote:
> In article >,
> "RST Engineering" > wrote:
>
>
>> We got to get some sexy
>>
>>>babes to generate some buzz around the grounds for your talks. Just like
>>>those cell phone companies hire good looking people to hang around bars
>>>with their latest gadgets in order to generate interest.
>>
>>Gee, I sort of like Gail, Margy and Mary hanging around. That's "babe"
>>enough for me.
>
>
> Spoken like a true politician. ;-)
Thanks, I needed that!!!

Margy

[Jay Honeck]

> Gee, I sort of like Gail, Margy and Mary hanging around. That's "babe"
> enough for me.

Amen, brother. Great looking AND they fly airplanes.

Can it get better than that?

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Harry[_2_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Gee, I sort of like Gail, Margy and Mary hanging around. That's "babe"
>> enough for me.
>
> Amen, brother. Great looking AND they fly airplanes.
>
> Can it get better than that?
>
> :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

Reminds me of the sign, I saw once:
WANTED:
Woman to be my wife who owns an airplane.
Send picture of airplane.

[Jack Allison]

Montblack wrote:

> As for the other kind of radio, I might not even bring my handheld (w/rubber
> ducky antenna) to OSH this year. Not a "must have" item, and I find I turn
> it on less and less each year.

Ahem...I think MontBlack is incorrect on this point :-) Listening to
the Air Boss or the tower controllers is a must.



--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
- Rod Machado

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Jack Allison" > wrote

> Ahem...I think MontBlack is incorrect on this point :-) Listening to the
> Air Boss or the tower controllers is a must.

I didn't speak up, from fear that everyone else thought I was crazy, but I
gotta agree.

I would much rather hear the constant banter of the control tower working
it's miracles, like happens no where else, than the PA speaker trying to
fill time with inconsequential nothingness.

If you can find the air boss's frequency when the air show starts, that is
an added bonus. Sometimes I do, and sometimes I don't.

Even if you do not listen to the control tower while wandering around, it
sure adds to the enjoyment of spending some time watching the "show" as the
rush comes in for 9/27.
--
Jim in NC

[john smith[_2_]]

In article >,
"Morgans" > wrote:

> If you can find the air boss's frequency when the air show starts, that is
> an added bonus.

Jim Weir has been providing the Air Boss frequency (among others) for
several years on his website.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Morgans" > wrote:
>
>> If you can find the air boss's frequency when the air show starts, that
>> is
>> an added bonus.
>
> Jim Weir has been providing the Air Boss frequency (among others) for
> several years on his website.

I hadn't noticed that. I'll take a look.

Doesn't it change as the show progresses? At least when they are talking to
some of the different acts?
--
Jim in NC

[Harry[_2_]]

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Morgans" > wrote:
>
>> If you can find the air boss's frequency when the air show starts, that
>> is
>> an added bonus.
>
> Jim Weir has been providing the Air Boss frequency (among others) for
> several years on his website.

At the risk of show my total ignorance :-), would someone please give me
Jim's website address? Thanks.

Harry

[Maxwell]

"Harry" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> At the risk of show my total ignorance :-), would someone please give me
> Jim's website address? Thanks.
>

www.rst-engr.com/index.html

[Harry[_2_]]

"Maxwell" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Harry" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> At the risk of show my total ignorance :-), would someone please give me
>> Jim's website address? Thanks.
>>
>
> www.rst-engr.com/index.html
>
>
>

Thank you!

[Montblack]

("Morgans" wrote)
>> Ahem...I think MontBlack is incorrect on this point :-) Listening to the
>> Air Boss or the tower controllers is a must.

> I didn't speak up, from fear that everyone else thought I was crazy, but I
> gotta agree.
>
> I would much rather hear the constant banter of the control tower working
> it's miracles, like happens no where else, than the PA speaker trying to
> fill time with inconsequential nothingness.


The rubber ducky handheld is not as OSH friendly as my jogging/treadmill
(armband) radio/headset.

My solution:
Have EAA "broadcast" the different (tower) frequencies over local FM radio -
using one of those low power (limited range) deelybob Drive-In movie theater
systems.

Our YMCA has a different FM channel to "dial" your headset to - under each
TV.


Montblack
Yes, I said ....JOGGING!! :-)

[Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)]

wrote:
> "Paul Dow (Remove Caps in mail address)" > wrote:
>> I thought nothing ever disappeared from the Internet, but I can't find
>> the forum schedules from last year to verify the times.
>
> http://web.archive.org/
>
> It doesn't catch everything and it doesn't always work (try outside of
> North American "prime time" for better luck) but when it works it's
> pretty cool.
>
> Matt Roberds
>
Thanks for the suggestion Matt. That's a lot of bits they keep there.
Unfortunately for some reason the airventure.org site archives stop at
the end of last May.

Somehow I finally found the info. www.airventure.org/forums still has
last year's data. Following the link for forums from the current
airventure home page takes you to a placeholder page for this year's info.

Going through the list for the week they had 39 forums sessions in the
5:30-6:45 PM slot and 17 in the 7:00-8:15PM period.

Here's the total numbers of educational sessions last year. It shows how
busy the place is that week. Hopefully the formatting comes out OK.

Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun Total
Honda Plaza 66 74 79 81 75 64 18 457
Workshop 16 17 17 18 18 16 6 108
FAA 5 6 4 4 6 5 4 34
U-light/Sport 4 5 6 6 5 5 4 35
Author's Corner 12 14 15 15 17 15 10 98
Museum 13 11 14 7 11 11 7 74
IAC 4 5 4 13
Total 116 127 139 136 136 116 49 819


Paul

[Matt Whiting]

Harry wrote:
> "john smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> "Morgans" > wrote:
>>
>>> If you can find the air boss's frequency when the air show starts, that
>>> is
>>> an added bonus.
>> Jim Weir has been providing the Air Boss frequency (among others) for
>> several years on his website.
>
> At the risk of show my total ignorance :-), would someone please give me
> Jim's website address? Thanks.
>
> Harry
>
>

Google "Jim Weir"