Most Landouts in One Day

[Kemp[_2_]]

Expanding on cherokee3's and Alistar's thread, I have achieved the
lofty (and unplanned) status of more than one landout in a day. Last
month with a new XC pilot, I managed to put the Duo down at one county
airport about 30 miles away and then on the retrieve tow, got off too
early and had to land at another county airport 10 miles away.

Hey I thought, "hmm, 28:1 back to the gliderport, no problem!" Pulled
the release and hit 4-6 knots sink until it ended whereupon I had a
50:1 glide over mud to make it back. *Sigh* I reluctantly turned back
to hard surface. Keeping up the cockpit banter, I commented on how in
XC gliding you need to know when to decide to land!

Now has anyone else had more than two landouts in a single soaring
day? That they will admit to? 8^)

Kemp

[Jim Vincent]

"Kemp" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Expanding on cherokee3's and Alistar's thread, I have achieved the
> lofty (and unplanned) status of more than one landout in a day. Last
> month with a new XC pilot, I managed to put the Duo down at one county
> airport about 30 miles away and then on the retrieve tow, got off too
> early and had to land at another county airport 10 miles away.
>
> Hey I thought, "hmm, 28:1 back to the gliderport, no problem!" Pulled
> the release and hit 4-6 knots sink until it ended whereupon I had a
> 50:1 glide over mud to make it back. *Sigh* I reluctantly turned back
> to hard surface. Keeping up the cockpit banter, I commented on how in
> XC gliding you need to know when to decide to land!
>
> Now has anyone else had more than two landouts in a single soaring
> day? That they will admit to? 8^)
>
> Kemp
>
I know of one guy who landed out at another airport, had lunch, got a tow
from their operation, then landed back at home field. Stated it was one
flight and full duration. Only after flying at the other operation did I
learn of his visit.

[Alistair Wright]

> I know of one guy who landed out at another airport, had lunch, got a tow
> from their operation, then landed back at home field. Stated it was one
> flight and full duration. Only after flying at the other operation did I
> learn of his visit.
>lol. I thought that was what barographs were for? Or did I miss something?
>Mind you I recall back in the 70s some guy (from the UK I'm sorry to say)
>who faked a record height climb by swopping baros after he landed. Got
>found out eventually - he was too greedy.

Alistair

[Papa3]

I think we did this thread last year...

Erik Mann (LS8-18 P3)
Two-bagger




On May 1, 10:08 am, Kemp > wrote:
> Expanding on cherokee3's and Alistar's thread, I have achieved the
> lofty (and unplanned) status of more than one landout in a day. Last
> month with a new XC pilot, I managed to put the Duo down at one county
> airport about 30 miles away and then on the retrieve tow, got off too
> early and had to land at another county airport 10 miles away.
>
> Hey I thought, "hmm, 28:1 back to the gliderport, no problem!" Pulled
> the release and hit 4-6 knots sink until it ended whereupon I had a
> 50:1 glide over mud to make it back. *Sigh* I reluctantly turned back
> to hard surface. Keeping up the cockpit banter, I commented on how in
> XC gliding you need to know when to decide to land!
>
> Now has anyone else had more than two landouts in a single soaring
> day? That they will admit to? 8^)
>
> Kemp

[Brian Glick]

I know a guy that landed out at a contest once while serving as the
sniffer!!! The rest of the contestants had a good day, this guy had to
suffer the usual barrage of "cute comments" you are not alone!!




"Papa3" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I think we did this thread last year...
>
> Erik Mann (LS8-18 P3)
> Two-bagger
>
>
>
>
> On May 1, 10:08 am, Kemp > wrote:
>> Expanding on cherokee3's and Alistar's thread, I have achieved the
>> lofty (and unplanned) status of more than one landout in a day. Last
>> month with a new XC pilot, I managed to put the Duo down at one county
>> airport about 30 miles away and then on the retrieve tow, got off too
>> early and had to land at another county airport 10 miles away.
>>
>> Hey I thought, "hmm, 28:1 back to the gliderport, no problem!" Pulled
>> the release and hit 4-6 knots sink until it ended whereupon I had a
>> 50:1 glide over mud to make it back. *Sigh* I reluctantly turned back
>> to hard surface. Keeping up the cockpit banter, I commented on how in
>> XC gliding you need to know when to decide to land!
>>
>> Now has anyone else had more than two landouts in a single soaring
>> day? That they will admit to? 8^)
>>
>> Kemp
>
>

[Eric Greenwell]

Papa3 wrote:
> I think we did this thread last year...

If you really want to squelch a thread like this one, you have to give
references to the old one and summarize the statistics from it, and
explain why it's not possible for anything new and interesting on the
subject to have happened in the intervening year!

OK, that probably won't work, unless you also duct tape a lot people's
hands to the arms of their chairs. No, wait, they can type with their
noses. Tough problem!

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
* Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
* "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
* "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org

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On May 1, 11:35 am, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> Papa3 wrote:
> > I think we did this thread last year...
>
> If you really want to squelch a thread like this one, you have to give
> references to the old one and summarize the statistics from it, and
> explain why it's not possible for anything new and interesting on the
> subject to have happened in the intervening year!
>
> OK, that probably won't work, unless you also duct tape a lot people's
> hands to the arms of their chairs. No, wait, they can type with their
> noses. Tough problem!
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org

hey now eric, have a little fuN! :) while not a true "landout" as far
as XC flying is concerned, at the convention, the guys from
Mississippi state were talking about doing research on ridge on Long
Island (I think) where they would rig/derig the glider sometimes 7 or
8 times a day. and it wasnt a nice light easy to rig/derig/trailer
glider either!

[Papa3]

On May 1, 12:35 pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:

>
> If you really want to squelch a thread like this one, you have to give
> references to the old one and summarize the statistics from it, and
> explain why it's not possible for anything new and interesting on the
> subject to have happened in the intervening year!
> > --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org

No way I want to squelch this thread; good fun.

In case anyone cares, here's the thread I was thinking of:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/browse_thread/thread/dc8f1da4bcc4eb13/defbd46ccd0d8290?q=most+landouts&lnk=ol&hl=en&

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Years ago, on a cross country flight out of Minden NV, I had to land
out at a crop duster airstrip ( the welcoming reception was
outstanding, great guys out there). I was retrieved in due time, and
while crossing the Pinenut Mountains, we (the tow plane and I )
encountered very severe turbulence. I realized suddenly that I was in
free flight, having come unhooked from the tow plane without having
felt a nudge, bump, pull or anything else. It did take me a second or
so to realize that the tow plane was getting away from me, the tow
rope trailing behind him. The tow plane and I both turned around and
got back to the duster strip. The tow pilot landed just ahead of me,
we rehooked, took off and crossed the mountains again, this time
without a problem.. I had two landouts in the same afternoon, both at
the same airstrip.

Cheers, Charles

[Kemp[_2_]]

On May 1, 11:17 am, Papa3 > wrote:

> No way I want to squelch this thread; good fun.
>
> In case anyone cares, here's the thread I was thinking of:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/browse_thread/thr...

Thanks Erik, now that you mention this, I do remember these from last
year. It's tough to come up with new ideas when you don't remember
what's been done before!

Kemp

[Tony Verhulst]

Brian Glick wrote:
> I know a guy that landed out at a contest once while serving as the
> sniffer!!!

Back in my hang gliding days, this person was called the "non
competition task pilot". No one ever called him that - he was the "wind
dummy".

Tony V. LS6-b "6N"

[brillo_pad]

Early 1970s, El Mirage, Region 12s. Weak day, so free distance is
called.

Teenage me was crewing for my instructor who was flying a Zugvogel.
Off he goes, and promptly lands at a strip 12 miles away. We get
there
quickly, derig (not as simple as today's glass birds - open trailer,
lotsa
nuts and bolts, etc., all pulled by a 1960 Desoto), and race back to
El Mirage.

My instructor starts rigging immediately - its now after 3 pm, and
contest
rules say that the last launch has to happen by 4 pm as I recall. His
wife,
smelling a rat, starts screeching: "No, oh no, oh no you don't!!"

Rigging complete, we push to the line and launch him with a minute or
two
to spare. Off he goes in a different direction, and lands about 40
miles
away. As we derig the Zugvogel for the second time that day, my
instructor says: "Well, that was better than 12 miles!"

Flying is more fun than crewing, but *nothing* in soaring has ever
been more entertaining than crewing for the Fellners.

Rolf

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On May 2, 8:35 am, brillo_pad > wrote:
> Flying is more fun than crewing, but *nothing* in soaring has ever
> been more entertaining than crewing for the Fellners.
>
> Rolf

The first contest I ever flew in was El Mirage. The first Day Dick
Fellner and I landed on Lucerne Dry lake, me in a 1-34 and he in the
Zugvogel. We had flown through the shear line and into no lift. The
next day the first turn was again Big Bear, Dick landed the same place
and I was determined to get past that, which I did, and landed closer
to Silver Springs on the way back from Baker.

I have a lot of Dick Fellner Stories and that could fill another
thread. He and his wife were arguing one day and he went out and
slammed the door to their trailer which latched shut. I was walking
by and I hear this little voice, "help, help" I went over and opened
the door for her and for ever after I was the guy who saved her life.

[MaD]

We used to go to summer camp in Mauterndorf (Austria) for a few years.
A lovely little airfield, friendly people, excellent food. And quite
good gliding, too. Sometimes.

One day the operating company managed to have both tugs in maintenance
at the same time so we were forced to winch launch. Now basically
thats not a problem for us, we start around 90% of all flights like
that at home. But on this particular occasion we knew it was going to
be just a bit more exciting.

The setup:
The grass runway at Mauterndorf is not very long, maybe 750m of cable
available.
The winch itself - hopelessly underpowered, that's why the locals
never really used it.
The weather was fair, in the higher mountains we could see the first
Cu developing. Wind from SE, about 5-10kts.

Now if you have Google Earth search for Mauterndorf, Austria or LOSM
and have a look. You'll notice a hill to the South of the airfield, it
rises about 300m above the runway. The valley on the other side of it,
in the South, lies a good 100m lower than LOSM.
The only hope of getting a soaring flight was to immediatly fly around
the hill to the sunny and upwind side and find lift there.

So that's what Paul (instructor and experienced XC pilot) did. He got
about 200m out of the launch with his ASW20, flew out of sight and we
waited. Less than five minutes later the phone rang. All OK, he was in
the field we had inspected the evening before. We of course immediatly
went to retrieve him with the trailer. From the field, while
derigging, we could watch others climb away, one or two just barely,
though. After re-assembling the glider Paul launched again - with the
same result as the first time.

Two landouts with trailer retrieve in the same meadow on the same day.

We were not unhappy the tug planes were in operation again the next
day.

Regards
Marcel Duenner

[MaD]

On 3 Mai, 21:34, MaD > wrote:
>
> The setup:
> The grass runway at Mauterndorf is not very long, maybe 750m of cable
> available.
> The winch itself - hopelessly underpowered, that's why the locals
> never really used it.
> The weather was fair, in the higher mountains we could see the first
> Cu developing. Wind from SE, about 5-10kts.

Oops! Wind was from SW of course!
Sorry