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May 7th 07, 09:45 PM
It is sounding like the Kenya 737-800 may have suffered a dual engine
flameout in heavy rain, similar to this event:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880524-0&lang=en

Robert M. Gary
May 7th 07, 10:05 PM
On May 7, 1:45 pm, wrote:
> It is sounding like the Kenya 737-800 may have suffered a dual engine
> flameout in heavy rain, similar to this event:
>
> http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880524-0&lang=en

Seems like quite a long shot. The Kenya plane was at climb out power,
the incidents on record of flame out from excess water were at idle
throttle (during descent). Interesting that the plane was only 6
months old.

-Robert

James Robinson
May 7th 07, 11:53 PM
wrote:

> It is sounding like the Kenya 737-800 may have suffered a dual engine
> flameout in heavy rain, similar to this event:
>
> http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880524-0&lang=en

That isn't very likely, as the aircraft was probably at climb power, as the
other poster suggested.

It is far too early to guess at a cause. There are lots of options, such
as the following list:

- In-flight breakup because of an encounter with heavy turbulance.
- Lightning strike causing loss of navigation instruments or controls.
- Malfunction of flight control surfaces.
- Sabotage or hijacking.
- Some type of crew distraction that caused them to lose situational
awareness.
- Collision with a large buzzard.

Yes, many of those possibilities are highly improbable, but when all one
has is a smoking hole without any other information, anything is possible.
Might as well have a OUIJA board do the analysis as guess at a cause.

Mxsmanic
May 8th 07, 02:36 AM
James Robinson writes:

> Yes, many of those possibilities are highly improbable, but when all one
> has is a smoking hole without any other information, anything is possible.
> Might as well have a OUIJA board do the analysis as guess at a cause.

I'll guess pilot error. The aircraft was too new to have much wrong with it,
even with poor maintenance--otherwise it would be a toss-up between pilot
error and improper maintenance.

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May 8th 07, 06:40 AM
On May 7, 7:36 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> James Robinson writes:
> > Yes, many of those possibilities are highly improbable, but when all one
> > has is a smoking hole without any other information, anything is possible.
> > Might as well have a OUIJA board do the analysis as guess at a cause.
>
> I'll guess pilot error. The aircraft was too new to have much wrong with it,
> even with poor maintenance--otherwise it would be a toss-up between pilot
> error and improper maintenance.
>
> --
> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

Or maybe it was the blue screen of death... no, wait, that only
happens to you!

Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
May 8th 07, 08:06 AM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> James Robinson writes:
>
>> Yes, many of those possibilities are highly improbable, but when all
>> one has is a smoking hole without any other information, anything is
>> possible. Might as well have a OUIJA board do the analysis as guess
>> at a cause.
>
> I'll guess pilot error.

and now you know more than a trained accident investigator.

What an asshole you are.


Bertie

john smith[_2_]
May 8th 07, 12:44 PM
In article . com>,
wrote:

> Or maybe it was the blue screen of death... no, wait, that only
> happens to you!

Dean, you are forgetting about AirBus aircraft. For them, it usually
happens during taxi.

Robert M. Gary
May 8th 07, 05:16 PM
On May 7, 6:36 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> James Robinson writes:
> > Yes, many of those possibilities are highly improbable, but when all one
> > has is a smoking hole without any other information, anything is possible.
> > Might as well have a OUIJA board do the analysis as guess at a cause.
>
> I'll guess pilot error. The aircraft was too new to have much wrong with it,
> even with poor maintenance--otherwise it would be a toss-up between pilot
> error and improper maintenance.

I can't even begin to imagine how you can to that conclusion.

-Robert

Peter Dohm
May 9th 07, 12:59 AM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> James Robinson writes:
>
> > Yes, many of those possibilities are highly improbable, but when all one
> > has is a smoking hole without any other information, anything is
possible.
> > Might as well have a OUIJA board do the analysis as guess at a cause.
>
> I'll guess pilot error. The aircraft was too new to have much wrong with
it,
> even with poor maintenance--otherwise it would be a toss-up between pilot
> error and improper maintenance.
>
¡Coño!

Have you never owned anything new, even in happier times????

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