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Maxwell
May 8th 07, 08:16 PM
"Mayo Clinic" > wrote in message
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> Pathological narcissism
>

Have you established an address for donations?

Kev
May 8th 07, 09:36 PM
On May 8, 11:46 pm, Mayo Clinic > wrote:
> [nothing of value]

Mx doesn't bother me... he's not a pilot. It's the ones who claim to
be pilots, posting childish junk, that are the truly embarassing
social retards here.

Kev

Tom L.
May 8th 07, 10:55 PM
On 8 May 2007 13:36:23 -0700, Kev > wrote:

>On May 8, 11:46 pm, Mayo Clinic > wrote:
>> [nothing of value]
>
.....
>.... It's the ones who claim to
>be pilots, posting childish junk, that are the truly embarassing
>social retards here.
>
>Kev

Amen.

- Tom

Lou
May 9th 07, 01:00 AM
Whew, I was worried for a moment, until I realized that there
wasn't a paragraph about the voices in my head
Lou

tony roberts
May 9th 07, 01:42 AM
Sad but very true

Tony

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE


> Mx doesn't bother me... he's not a pilot. It's the ones who claim to
> be pilots, posting childish junk, that are the truly embarassing
> social retards here.
>
> Kev

Mayo Clinic
May 9th 07, 04:46 AM
Pathological narcissism
Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a persistent inability to establish
a realistic, stable self-image, therefore creating an overdependence on
others to regulate their self-esteem. This unrealistic self-image affects
how people with this disorder behave and interact with others.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder may include:

Grandiose sense of one's own abilities or achievements
Fantasies about having exceptional power, attractiveness or success
Sense of belonging to an exclusive group of people who truly understand
each other
Need for constant praise
Expectations of special treatment
Exploitation of other people
Lack of empathy for other people
Envy of other people or a belief that you are the subject of other
people's envy
Haughty or arrogant behaviors
Individuals with narcissistic personality disorder may come across as
conceited or snobbish. They often monopolize conversation. They may
belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior. When they
don't receive the special treatment to which they feel entitled, they may
become very impatient or angry.

People with narcissistic personality disorder tend to seek out
individuals whom they perceive as equal to their own self-image or to
whom they attribute the same special talents and qualities they see in
themselves. They may insist on having "the best" of everything — car,
athletic club or social circles.

Their personal relationships and interactions are driven by the need for
admiration and praise. Consequently, people with narcissistic personality
disorder value others primarily according to how well those individuals
affirm their unrealistic self-image. This limited value of others usually
means that people with the disorder aren't interested in or aren't
capable of perceiving the feelings or needs of others. They may take
advantage of other people to make themselves look as good as they
imagine.

On the other hand, seeking admiration also makes people with narcissistic
personality disorder vulnerable to criticism. If someone criticizes an
individual's contribution to a project at work, for example, he or she
will perceive this comment as an assault on an image that needs to be
protected at all costs and may respond with feelings of shame,
humiliation or sadness or may express rage, disdain or defensive
behaviors.

HELP IS AVAILABLE

tony roberts
May 9th 07, 06:56 AM
He thrives when reading this crap that you post.
You are actually empowering him.
Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

> You are incorrect. Those who are exasperated may indeed express
> themselves badly, but the true social deviant is indeed Mxsmanic.
>
> There is much to be gleaned from the behavioral mode of this subject.
> He has deliberately chosen a surrounding in which he should, by all
> rights, be the "little guy". Most all of the contributors surrounding him
> have considerable experience and first hand knowledge of the subject at
> hand - he alone does not. Yet far from trying to enhance his
> understanding through this dialog, he attempts to commandeer respect
> through tactful bullying. Asking seemingly simple questions, then chiding
> and berating those who respond innocently for the poor quality of their
> responses.
>
> This inflated self-importance and esteem is only an apparent one,
> however. He knows all too well the depths of his incompetence, and is
> seeking only ephemeral gratification in this bate-and-chide charade.
>
> Help is available, but will come only with considerable time and
> investment on the patient's behalf. Only when he has renewed his ability
> to establish intimacy in relationships - lost somewhere in his childhood
> - will he be able to apportion some of his obvious intelligence to any
> sort of meaningful dialog.

Mayo Clinic
May 9th 07, 01:55 PM
>Mx doesn't bother me... he's not a pilot. It's the ones who claim to
>be pilots, posting childish junk, that are the truly embarassing
>social retards here.
>
>Kev
>


You are incorrect. Those who are exasperated may indeed express
themselves badly, but the true social deviant is indeed Mxsmanic.

There is much to be gleaned from the behavioral mode of this subject.
He has deliberately chosen a surrounding in which he should, by all
rights, be the "little guy". Most all of the contributors surrounding him
have considerable experience and first hand knowledge of the subject at
hand - he alone does not. Yet far from trying to enhance his
understanding through this dialog, he attempts to commandeer respect
through tactful bullying. Asking seemingly simple questions, then chiding
and berating those who respond innocently for the poor quality of their
responses.

This inflated self-importance and esteem is only an apparent one,
however. He knows all too well the depths of his incompetence, and is
seeking only ephemeral gratification in this bate-and-chide charade.

Help is available, but will come only with considerable time and
investment on the patient's behalf. Only when he has renewed his ability
to establish intimacy in relationships - lost somewhere in his childhood
- will he be able to apportion some of his obvious intelligence to any
sort of meaningful dialog.

EridanMan
May 9th 07, 11:06 PM
Ok Guys, the Anti-MX reactions on this board have quickly and
completely eclipsed MX's own personality difficulties in terms of
disruption...

Drop the DSM-IV diagnosis... If there is a disorder (and none of us
are in a qualified position or have a qualified relationship to
diagnose), it is obviously ego-syntonic and beyond the realm of modern
psychotherapy, thus attributing any form of diagnosis to him serves
only as a rather childish "ha ha, I'm better than you" response.

Lou
May 10th 07, 12:10 AM
You have to admit, it's funny how everything the O.P. stated about MX
is
is what is actually happening to himself. Just my 2.54 cents worth.
Lou

Viperdoc
May 10th 07, 02:07 AM
Actually, there is a lot of truth to the quotes from the DSM. Also, it looks
like every time someone posts comments like this it gets us a reprieve from
MX's noise for a day or so.

Besides, it's all usenet- like it or hate it, it's all the same and should
be taken with a grain of salt.

Mayo Clinic
May 10th 07, 01:52 PM
In article . com>,
says...
>
>
>Ok Guys, the Anti-MX reactions on this board have quickly and
>completely eclipsed MX's own personality difficulties in terms of
>disruption...
>
>Drop the DSM-IV diagnosis... If there is a disorder (and none of us
>are in a qualified position or have a qualified relationship to
>diagnose), it is obviously ego-syntonic and beyond the realm of modern
>psychotherapy, thus attributing any form of diagnosis to him serves
>only as a rather childish "ha ha, I'm better than you" response.



On the contrary - this person's affliction is neither that rare or that
inscrutable. What's more, he really could be helped, which was part of
the intention of the original post. He must recognize the addictive
nature of his usenet abuse - I'll bet he spends a LOT of time
researching answers to show up his "competitors", while getting only
superficial satisfaction out of it. Despite his smug demeanor, he is not
a happy camper. He may not recognize that he is playing a manipulative
mind game, but I'm willing to bet the intimacy issue rings a bell with
him.

For the group, the are real reasons why many are exasperated by this
abuser. For them, it is not a personal vendetta, but a "quality of
relationship" issue. I admit I am surprised by those who "don't mind" or
otherwise defend him. Some must be more thick-skinned than others, or
have a high tolerance for degraded quality discourse. One thing is normal
chat, exchange of ideas among people who share an interest, normal
disagreements and different levels of understanding on various issues.
Another is an ongoing, maniacal delirium of Mx with his calculating
bait-and-berate game and Bertie responding "Fjukkwit". It would appear
that some contributors do not have a strong preference between the two
levels of interchange.




>

Danny Deger
May 10th 07, 09:25 PM
"tony roberts" > wrote in message
news:indiacharlieecho-899664.22563408052007@shawnews...
> He thrives when reading this crap that you post.
> You are actually empowering him.
> Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
>

I agree with you. I don't mind reading his posts. I do mind reading the
countless emails that flame him.

Yes, there are those on the internet that like to be flamed.

Danny Deger

Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
May 24th 07, 02:01 PM
Mayo Clinic > wrote in
:

> In article . com>,
> says...
>>
>>
>>Ok Guys, the Anti-MX reactions on this board have quickly and
>>completely eclipsed MX's own personality difficulties in terms of
>>disruption...
>>
>>Drop the DSM-IV diagnosis... If there is a disorder (and none of us
>>are in a qualified position or have a qualified relationship to
>>diagnose), it is obviously ego-syntonic and beyond the realm of modern
>>psychotherapy, thus attributing any form of diagnosis to him serves
>>only as a rather childish "ha ha, I'm better than you" response.
>
>
>
> On the contrary - this person's affliction is neither that rare or
> that inscrutable. What's more, he really could be helped, which was
> part of the intention of the original post. He must recognize the
> addictive nature of his usenet abuse - I'll bet he spends a LOT of
> time researching answers to show up his "competitors", while getting
> only superficial satisfaction out of it. Despite his smug demeanor, he
> is not a happy camper. He may not recognize that he is playing a
> manipulative mind game, but I'm willing to bet the intimacy issue
> rings a bell with him.
>
> For the group, the are real reasons why many are exasperated by this
> abuser. For them, it is not a personal vendetta, but a "quality of
> relationship" issue. I admit I am surprised by those who "don't mind"
> or otherwise defend him. Some must be more thick-skinned than others,
> or have a high tolerance for degraded quality discourse. One thing is
> normal chat, exchange of ideas among people who share an interest,
> normal disagreements and different levels of understanding on various
> issues. Another is an ongoing, maniacal delirium of Mx with his
> calculating bait-and-berate game and Bertie responding "Fjukkwit". It
> would appear that some contributors do not have a strong preference
> between the two levels of interchange.
>
I just think it's fun/


Bertie

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