airspace question

[michcio]

In my area there is a C right next to D airspace.

After establishing radio contact with class C approach and the D
airspace being in my flight path, do I need to talk directly with
airspace D to get cleared through it, or is that all taken care of by
the approach controller?

Thanks.

[john smith[_2_]]

In article om>,
michcio > wrote:

> In my area there is a C right next to D airspace.
>
> After establishing radio contact with class C approach and the D
> airspace being in my flight path, do I need to talk directly with
> airspace D to get cleared through it, or is that all taken care of by
> the approach controller?

C will tell you what to do.

[gatt]

"michcio" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> In my area there is a C right next to D airspace.
>
> After establishing radio contact with class C approach and the D
> airspace being in my flight path, do I need to talk directly with
> airspace D to get cleared through it, or is that all taken care of by
> the approach controller?

C will generally clear you through, tell you to contact the D facility on a
specific frequency, or vector you around or over the top. -c

[Sylvain]

Danny Deger wrote:


> Before I entered the D while talking to the C controller, I would make
> sure
> I was cleared. If in doubt ask.

or see how much flexibility you might have to go around/above it; a thing
that has happened to me coming back from the Bay Tour, talking to approach,
was to hear them say as soon as I left class B: 'radar service terminated,
squawk VFR, resume own navigation' while already inside SQL class D...

ooops.

I was not talking to SQL since I was talking to approach, so all set as far
as going through the class Ds of airports along the way... the SQL guy was a
bit upset. So, from then on, I fly the return flight over/westish hwy 280
(all they ask for is that you remain west of hwy 101) which puts me well
clear of SQL airspace, just in case.

--Sylvain

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"michcio" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> In my area there is a C right next to D airspace.
>
> After establishing radio contact with class C approach and the D
> airspace being in my flight path, do I need to talk directly with
> airspace D to get cleared through it, or is that all taken care of by
> the approach controller?
>

The radar controller is required to coordinate your transition of the Class
D airspace with the control tower, you are not expected to contact the tower
yourself.

[Hamish Reid]

In article >,
Sylvain > wrote:

> Danny Deger wrote:
>
>
> > Before I entered the D while talking to the C controller, I would make
> > sure
> > I was cleared. If in doubt ask.
>
> or see how much flexibility you might have to go around/above it; a thing
> that has happened to me coming back from the Bay Tour, talking to approach,
> was to hear them say as soon as I left class B: 'radar service terminated,
> squawk VFR, resume own navigation' while already inside SQL class D...
>
> ooops.
>
> I was not talking to SQL since I was talking to approach, so all set as far
> as going through the class Ds of airports along the way... the SQL guy was a
> bit upset. So, from then on, I fly the return flight over/westish hwy 280
> (all they ask for is that you remain west of hwy 101) which puts me well
> clear of SQL airspace, just in case.

I always ask SFO tower for the frequency change when I'm about abeam the
tower on the Bay tour over 101 for precisely this reason -- and they
usually seem only too happy to get rid of me. Given how busy SQL is, you
need the time to call them... (but they often know about you anyway,
somehow).

Hamish

[kontiki]

Danny Deger wrote:
>
> Before I entered the D while talking to the C controller, I would make
> sure I was cleared. If in doubt ask.
>
> Danny
>
You do not need a clearance to enter class D airspace (or class C for
that matter). Only requirement is radio contact.

[Danny Deger]

"michcio" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> In my area there is a C right next to D airspace.
>
> After establishing radio contact with class C approach and the D
> airspace being in my flight path, do I need to talk directly with
> airspace D to get cleared through it, or is that all taken care of by
> the approach controller?
>

Before I entered the D while talking to the C controller, I would make sure
I was cleared. If in doubt ask.

Danny

> Thanks.
>

[Danny Deger]

"kontiki" > wrote in message
...
> Danny Deger wrote:
>>
>> Before I entered the D while talking to the C controller, I would make
>> sure I was cleared. If in doubt ask.
>>
>> Danny
>>
> You do not need a clearance to enter class D airspace (or class C for
> that matter). Only requirement is radio contact.

Correct, but contact with who? I assume it is with the control tower that
owns the Class D, not the controller that owns the class C next door. Like
I said, I would confirm with the class C controller before I entered the
class D.

Danny Deger
>

[Clay]

>
> You do not need a clearance to enter class D airspace (or class C for
> that matter). Only requirement is radio contact.

To enter class C airspace, the controller must call back your call
sign.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Clay" > wrote in message
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>>
>> You do not need a clearance to enter class D airspace (or class C for
>> that matter). Only requirement is radio contact.
>>
>
> To enter class C airspace, the controller must call back your call
> sign.
>

Same with Class D airspace.

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Clay > wrote:

> >
> > You do not need a clearance to enter class D airspace (or class C for
> > that matter). Only requirement is radio contact.

> To enter class C airspace, the controller must call back your call
> sign.

Which is radio contact.

You don't have contact until both sides have acknowledged each other.

--
Jim Pennino

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[B A R R Y]

On Sun, 13 May 2007 14:58:33 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
> wrote:

>
>"Clay" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>>>
>>> You do not need a clearance to enter class D airspace (or class C for
>>> that matter). Only requirement is radio contact.
>>>
>>
>> To enter class C airspace, the controller must call back your call
>> sign.
>>
>
>Same with Class D airspace.

As Stephen is illustrating, radio contact is not RADIO CONTACT until
it includes your call sign.

"Aircraft calling Bumpkinville, stand by..." is not radio contact.

"November-6-9-Kilo-Yankee, stand by" is RADIO CONTACT. <G>