Wierd TFR in Mid California

[Flyin'[email protected]]

I loaded up the AOPA flight planner last night and notice a large area in
mid western California that had a TFR. The shape was odd, and it was way
bigger than anything I had seen. I read the text and it was controlled by
the USCG, but I could not find any reason for the TFR. Anyone have any
idea what this is for?

This is only for curiosity sake, since it is not like I would go flying way
up there anyway. ;-)

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

wrote:
> I loaded up the AOPA flight planner last night and notice a large area in
> mid western California that had a TFR. The shape was odd, and it was way
> bigger than anything I had seen. I read the text and it was controlled by
> the USCG, but I could not find any reason for the TFR. Anyone have any
> idea what this is for?

ALL PILOTS should know this site:

<http://tfr.faa.gov>

[Flyin'[email protected]]

Cool Thanks. I have been to that site many times, but did not think of it
for this case. Last night I do not think it said marine life rescue. It
seems that this is a rather large TFR for a fish. :-)

Anyway, I saw these whales in the river on the news last night. Did not
think they would make a TFR for that. Oh well.


> ALL PILOTS should know this site:
>
> <http://tfr.faa.gov>

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com

[Al G[_2_]]

> wrote in message
...
> Cool Thanks. I have been to that site many times, but did not think of it
> for this case. Last night I do not think it said marine life rescue. It
> seems that this is a rather large TFR for a fish. :-)
>
> Anyway, I saw these whales in the river on the news last night. Did not
> think they would make a TFR for that. Oh well.
>

It's a "security" issue.

Al G

[A Guy Called Tyketto]

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wrote:
> Cool Thanks. I have been to that site many times, but did not think of it
> for this case. Last night I do not think it said marine life rescue. It
> seems that this is a rather large TFR for a fish. :-)
>
> Anyway, I saw these whales in the river on the news last night. Did not
> think they would make a TFR for that. Oh well.
>

Yeah.. media here is going crazy over the whales, to the point
where it's getting int'l attention and everyone wanting to fly over
here so they can see/help Free Willy. I can see the TFR not being
fixed, as they'd have to cover all the way down to the Delta so they
can head out to sea, but where it is currently at affects arrivals into
SMF as well as just about direction of flight for departure out of SAC.

I'd love to hear any PIREPs from those in the area flying out
of Executive..

BL.
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[Robert M. Gary]

On May 18, 9:14 am, wrote:
> I loaded up the AOPA flight planner last night and notice a large area in
> mid western California that had a TFR. The shape was odd, and it was way
> bigger than anything I had seen. I read the text and it was controlled by
> the USCG, but I could not find any reason for the TFR. Anyone have any
> idea what this is for?
>
> This is only for curiosity sake, since it is not like I would go flying way
> up there anyway. ;-)
>
> --
> Mike Flyin'8
> PP-ASEL
> Temecula, CAhttp://flying.4alexanders.com

I don't see it now. Do you have the NOTAM number? We do often have
TFRs over Beale for unmanned aircraft but that doesn't sound like what
you are talking about. We also have a permanent Mickey Mouse TFR in
SoCal.

-robert

[Flyin'[email protected]]

> I don't see it now. Do you have the NOTAM number? We do often have
> TFRs over Beale for unmanned aircraft but that doesn't sound like what
> you are talking about. We also have a permanent Mickey Mouse TFR in
> SoCal.

7/1823

--
Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com

[NVArt]

ATC: Traffic Alert! Whales, flight of two, 12 O'Clock low!

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

NVArt wrote:
> ATC: Traffic Alert! Whales, flight of two, 12 O'Clock low!
>

Have you ever read "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"? <G>

[[email protected]]

On May 18, 12:32 pm, B A R R Y > wrote:
> NVArt wrote:
> > ATC: Traffic Alert! Whales, flight of two, 12 O'Clock low!
>
> Have you ever read "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"? <G>

"I think I'll call it the ground... I wonder if it will be friends
with me?"

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

wrote:
> On May 18, 12:32 pm, B A R R Y > wrote:
>> NVArt wrote:
>>> ATC: Traffic Alert! Whales, flight of two, 12 O'Clock low!
>> Have you ever read "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"? <G>
>
> "I think I'll call it the ground... I wonder if it will be friends
> with me?"
>


And the begonias?

"Not again..."

[Sylvain]

B A R R Y wrote:

> And the begonias?
>
> "Not again..."

you are confusing with the petunias.

tsst tsst. Mixing up your solanaceae with your begoniaceae. Besides
petunias are a lot prettier.

--Sylvain

[B A R R Y]

On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:44:38 -0700, Sylvain > wrote:

>B A R R Y wrote:
>
>> And the begonias?
>>
>> "Not again..."
>
>you are confusing with the petunias.

It's been a while... <G>

BTW, the book was far better than the movie. Do you agree?

[Robert M. Gary]

On May 18, 11:12 am, wrote:
> > I don't see it now. Do you have the NOTAM number? We do often have
> > TFRs over Beale for unmanned aircraft but that doesn't sound like what
> > you are talking about. We also have a permanent Mickey Mouse TFR in
> > SoCal.
>
> 7/1823
>
> --
> Mike Flyin'8
> PP-ASEL
> Temecula, CAhttp://flying.4alexanders.com

They way I read it, it isn't actually restricted airspace, its just
asking pilots not to hang around the whale. In fact they specifically
say opeartions at affected airports are not affected. Besides, its
only below 1000, clearly its for news helicopters. However, usually
the news helos stay above 1000 feet because the law enforcement helos
are below 1000 and the news guys have great zoom lenses anyway.

-Robert

[Peter Dohm]

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:44:38 -0700, Sylvain > wrote:
>
> >B A R R Y wrote:
> >
> >> And the begonias?
> >>
> >> "Not again..."
> >
> >you are confusing with the petunias.
>
> It's been a while... <G>
>
> BTW, the book was far better than the movie. Do you agree?

There is not much doubt.

I never saw the movie, but it would be very difficult to do well.

There was also a radio version which was attrocious--my patience for it
lasted about a minute!

[Peter Clark]

On Fri, 18 May 2007 18:05:31 -0400, "Peter Dohm"
> wrote:

>I never saw the movie, but it would be very difficult to do well.
>
>There was also a radio version which was attrocious--my patience for it
>lasted about a minute!

And the classic BBC television series. It was so cheezy it was great.

[Sylvain]

B A R R Y wrote:


> BTW, the book was far better than the movie. Do you agree?

which one? there were (at least, i.e., that I know of) two
movies made; a much earlier and unpretentious low-budget one
which was actually quite funny and the recent one that I didn't
like one bit.

--Sylvain

[B A R R Y]

On Fri, 18 May 2007 16:15:21 -0700, Sylvain > wrote:

>B A R R Y wrote:
>
>
>> BTW, the book was far better than the movie. Do you agree?
>
>which one? there were (at least, i.e., that I know of) two
>movies made; a much earlier and unpretentious low-budget one
>which was actually quite funny and the recent one that I didn't
>like one bit.
>

The recent one. I never knew another existed.

[Sylvain]

B A R R Y wrote:

> The recent one. I never knew another existed.

actually it was a TV miniserie; found the reference on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_%28TV_serie s%29

--Sylvain

[John Galban]

On May 18, 3:05 pm, "Peter Dohm" > wrote:
>
> There was also a radio version which was attrocious--my patience for it
> lasted about a minute!

The BBC radio version was the original version (before the book).
I'm a purist, so that one tends to be my favorite. On an aviation
related note, the radio version of the Hitchhikers' Guide is what has
been playing in my cockpit for the last 5 or 6 flight hours. I have
all 5 series on .mp3.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Jackal24]

B A R R Y > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:44:38 -0700, Sylvain > wrote:
>
>>B A R R Y wrote:
>>
>>> And the begonias?
>>>
>>> "Not again..."
>>
>>you are confusing with the petunias.
>
> It's been a while... <G>
>
> BTW, the book was far better than the movie. Do you agree?

I watched about 20 minutes of the movie and turned it off. It was horrible.
The books are great. BTW, Towel Day is May 25.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towel_day

[Andy Hawkins]

Hi,

In article >,
Peter > wrote:
> There was also a radio version which was attrocious--my patience for it
> lasted about a minute!

You should be burned at the stake for such herecy (sp?). The radio series
was the original, and even today stands the test of time.

Tsk :)

Andy

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 19 May 2007 07:51:04 -0000, Jackal24 > wrote:

>I watched about 20 minutes of the movie and turned it off. It was horrible.
>The books are great. BTW, Towel Day is May 25.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towel_day

The things you learn hangar flying. <G>

I've always got mine!

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> On May 18, 12:32 pm, B A R R Y > wrote:
>> NVArt wrote:
>> > ATC: Traffic Alert! Whales, flight of two, 12 O'Clock low!
>>
>> Have you ever read "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"? <G>
>
> "I think I'll call it the ground... I wonder if it will be friends
> with me?"
>

http://tinyurl.com/2umfup

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[C J Campbell[_1_]]

On 2007-05-18 10:14:26 -0700, "Al G" > said:

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cool Thanks. I have been to that site many times, but did not think of it
>> for this case. Last night I do not think it said marine life rescue. It
>> seems that this is a rather large TFR for a fish. :-)
>>
>> Anyway, I saw these whales in the river on the news last night. Did not
>> think they would make a TFR for that. Oh well.
>>
>
> It's a "security" issue.
>
> Al G

Yeah. They want to protect crowds from twisted pieces of falling aluminum.

The original purpose of TFRs was for things like this -- fires, media
circuses, etc., where there might be a lot of official air traffic or
way too many sightseers in the air. You get a whole bunch of planes in
a constricted area where all the pilots are looking at the ground
instead of for each other, and there will be trouble. Hence, the TFR.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

[Morgans[_2_]]

"C J Campbell" > wrote
>
> Yeah. They want to protect crowds from twisted pieces of falling aluminum.

Well, to be fair, they want to protect them from falling fiberglass and
carbon fiber, and wood and fabric, and steel and fabric ,,,,,, ALSO !!! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("C J Campbell" wrote)
> Yeah. They want to protect crowds from twisted pieces of falling aluminum.


Running with the whales ...theme:

You mean ...falling "transparent aluminum," don't you? :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_aluminum


Montblack
[Spock is still learning how to use profanity correctly]

Spock: "They like you very much, but they are not the hell "your" whales."
Dr. Gillian Taylor: "I suppose they told you that."
Spock: "The hell they did."

[Bob Fry]

I flew over the area yesterday late afternoon and didn't see any
evidence of the whales: no flotilla of rescue boats, nuthin'. Later
in the weekend I'll try again.
--
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