River retrieve

[Frank Whiteley]

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=45&id=54779

[bagmaker]

Dont gliders float anyway?
I was under the impression that most gliders float on water, albeit with the canopy too far below to breathe, due to the wing structures.
Am I wrong there?

Bagger

[Paul Hanson]

At 03:06 20 May 2007, Bagmaker wrote:
>
>Dont gliders float anyway?

Not leaky metal pigs like the 2-33, but most glass
ships with foam or balsa cores do, just like a surfboard.


What I find scary though, is how close they were to
shore with the nose pointing at it. I hope they landed
parallel and turned at the last controllable moment,
because if they landed towards it that was a big gamble,
there being no way to know how long the 'rollout' would
be after spashdown, unless they practice that type
of thing regularly...
Glad no one was hurt though, and it is good to know
that our tax dollars can be used for something positive.
I'd say it seems like the Fire Dept did a great job
at coordinating and executing the retrieve. I wonder
how many dinners and beers a retrieve like that would
cost me ;-)

Paul Hanson
"Do the usual, unusually well"--Len Niemi

[mattm]

On May 19, 2:29 pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=45&id=...

The question comes up, why did they land there? The landing point is
literally right underneath the pattern.
Here's an aerial photo of the airport from Google:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.076279,-76.097016&spn=0.010177,0.019033&t=h&z=16&om=1

The gliders land on the grass to the east of the runway using a
pattern on the same side (I learned to
fly at that airport, although not with that particular operation).

[BT]

some one misjudged his pattern..

BT

"mattm" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On May 19, 2:29 pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>> http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=45&id=...
>
> The question comes up, why did they land there? The landing point is
> literally right underneath the pattern.
> Here's an aerial photo of the airport from Google:
>
> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.076279,-76.097016&spn=0.010177,0.019033&t=h&z=16&om=1
>
> The gliders land on the grass to the east of the runway using a
> pattern on the same side (I learned to
> fly at that airport, although not with that particular operation).
>

[mattm]

On May 21, 9:26 pm, "BT" > wrote:
> some one misjudged his pattern..
>
> BT
>
> "mattm" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > On May 19, 2:29 pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> >>http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=45&id=...
>
> > The question comes up, why did they land there? The landing point is
> > literally right underneath the pattern.
> > Here's an aerial photo of the airport from Google:
>
> >http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.076279,-76.097016&spn=0.010177,...
>
> > The gliders land on the grass to the east of the runway using a
> > pattern on the same side (I learned to
> > fly at that airport, although not with that particular operation).

Now I'm starting to wonder. That club used an underpowered Citabria
for towing. I wonder if they just had a low rope break at a point
they were too low to turn back and too high to land ahead? The
newspaper article my Mom sent me mentioned something about getting
stuck in sink, but they still haven't identified the people on board
yet.

[BT]

>
> Now I'm starting to wonder. That club used an underpowered Citabria
> for towing. I wonder if they just had a low rope break at a point
> they were too low to turn back and too high to land ahead? The
> newspaper article my Mom sent me mentioned something about getting
> stuck in sink, but they still haven't identified the people on board
> yet.

Nothing like the power of a 250HP Pawnee with at least 200ft AGL when you
clear the airport boundary.
Granted.. we don't have trees at the airport fence.

BT

[Brian Glick]

I think you will find most fiberglass gliders sink as well. The foam gets
water logged. We has and ASW 27 land in water at our contest a few years
back. Pilot reported that in about 15 minutes, the 27 did it's best
imitation of the Titanic........his words!!!


Brian

"bagmaker" > wrote in message
...
>
> Dont gliders float anyway?
> I was under the impression that most gliders float on water, albeit
> with the canopy too far below to breathe, due to the wing structures.
> Am I wrong there?
>
> Bagger
>
>
>
>
> --
> bagmaker

[Brian Glick]

Wish I could spell today!!!!!
"Brian Glick" > wrote in message
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>I think you will find most fiberglass gliders sink as well. The foam gets
>water logged. We had and ASW 27 land in water at our contest a few years
>back. Pilot reported that in about 15 minutes, the 27 did it's best
>imitation of the Titanic........his words!!!
>
>
> Brian
>
> "bagmaker" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Dont gliders float anyway?
>> I was under the impression that most gliders float on water, albeit
>> with the canopy too far below to breathe, due to the wing structures.
>> Am I wrong there?
>>
>> Bagger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> bagmaker
>
>

[Brian Glick]

Wish I could spell today!!!!! Geeze....had to correct it twice.....I give
up!

I think you will find most fiberglass gliders sink as well. The foam gets
water logged. We had an ASW 27 land in water at our contest a few years
back. Pilot reported that in about 15 minutes, the 27 did it's best
imitation of the Titanic........his words!!!


Brian
>>
>> "bagmaker" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> Dont gliders float anyway?
>>> I was under the impression that most gliders float on water, albeit
>>> with the canopy too far below to breathe, due to the wing structures.
>>> Am I wrong there?
>>>
>>> Bagger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> bagmaker
>>
>>
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>