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Jay Honeck
May 24th 07, 04:26 AM
We were flying back from Springfield last Sunday, arcing into a
setting sun the size of a pie tin. It was one of those flights where
you keep catching yourself turning off course, just to get the sun
behind the windshield post and out of your eyes...

We'd been silent most of the way, just enjoying the ride and the
afterglow of a day well-spent visiting old friends, when my daughter,
age 13, asked me to play the theme song from "One Six Right" on the CD
player.

Mary and I both looked at each other, shocked that Becca even knew the
name of the album, much less the song itself -- but I quickly slid the
disk into the player, and listened as the fabulous opening bars began
to play...

(For those who don't know the music, listen to it here, for free:
http://www.onesixright.com/ )

There was a scattered layer of clouds below, and a few above, and the
sun played behind them, scattering the light into a million separate
beams, lighting the verdant farmland far below with a burning,
heavenly glow. The view was simply breath-taking.

My daughter, usually oblivious to the flying she has done so often
since birth, suddenly asked me to "Do the soaring thing to the music,
Dad, like you did before..."

Hesitant to deviate from straight and level while talking to Chicago
Center, I started a little dipping and rolling to the music. I
glanced over to see that her eyes were closed, the sunshine was
lighting her face like an angel, and she was simply *feeling* the
flight with all of her senses. She was grinning from ear to ear.

Inspired, I let my inhibitions go, and began giant swoops and gentle
push-overs, all in time to the orchestral crescendos of "One Six
Right". Soon, I found myself closing *my* eyes, and feeling the
weightlessness at the top of the arc, and the one-G steep turns, back
and forth, all to the beat of the music. It was magical.

Throat tightening, chest bursting, I wanted to cry with joy. If there
is a heaven, it must feel very much like this.

And my daughter was "getting it"!

When we landed, Becca -- vocally against the very notion of learning
to fly for so many years -- said "Dad, maybe I *will* learn to fly
some day..."

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

BT
May 24th 07, 05:19 AM
That's Great Jay... !!!

Sometimes you'll never know what strikes their strings and creates the
dream... until it happens.

BT

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> We were flying back from Springfield last Sunday, arcing into a
> setting sun the size of a pie tin. It was one of those flights where
> you keep catching yourself turning off course, just to get the sun
> behind the windshield post and out of your eyes...
>
> We'd been silent most of the way, just enjoying the ride and the
> afterglow of a day well-spent visiting old friends, when my daughter,
> age 13, asked me to play the theme song from "One Six Right" on the CD
> player.
>
> Mary and I both looked at each other, shocked that Becca even knew the
> name of the album, much less the song itself -- but I quickly slid the
> disk into the player, and listened as the fabulous opening bars began
> to play...
>
> (For those who don't know the music, listen to it here, for free:
> http://www.onesixright.com/ )
>
> There was a scattered layer of clouds below, and a few above, and the
> sun played behind them, scattering the light into a million separate
> beams, lighting the verdant farmland far below with a burning,
> heavenly glow. The view was simply breath-taking.
>
> My daughter, usually oblivious to the flying she has done so often
> since birth, suddenly asked me to "Do the soaring thing to the music,
> Dad, like you did before..."
>
> Hesitant to deviate from straight and level while talking to Chicago
> Center, I started a little dipping and rolling to the music. I
> glanced over to see that her eyes were closed, the sunshine was
> lighting her face like an angel, and she was simply *feeling* the
> flight with all of her senses. She was grinning from ear to ear.
>
> Inspired, I let my inhibitions go, and began giant swoops and gentle
> push-overs, all in time to the orchestral crescendos of "One Six
> Right". Soon, I found myself closing *my* eyes, and feeling the
> weightlessness at the top of the arc, and the one-G steep turns, back
> and forth, all to the beat of the music. It was magical.
>
> Throat tightening, chest bursting, I wanted to cry with joy. If there
> is a heaven, it must feel very much like this.
>
> And my daughter was "getting it"!
>
> When we landed, Becca -- vocally against the very notion of learning
> to fly for so many years -- said "Dad, maybe I *will* learn to fly
> some day..."
>
> :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

EridanMan
May 24th 07, 06:16 AM
Wow...

Congratulations...

Mxsmanic
May 24th 07, 12:54 PM
Jay Honeck writes:

> If there is a heaven, it must feel very much like this.

It does, which is why many people with a good memory are attracted to
aviation.

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Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
May 24th 07, 12:58 PM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Jay Honeck writes:
>
>> If there is a heaven, it must feel very much like this.
>
> It does, which is why many people with a good memory are attracted to
> aviation.

How the fjukk would you know?

You don't fly and s\you sure as **** haven't been to heaven.



Fjukktard


Bertie

Jon Kraus
May 24th 07, 01:15 PM
That was exactly how my instrument DE had me get into an unusual
attitude. He said "close your eyes, now turn to the right, level it out,
turn to the left, level it out, turn to the right, level it out, now
open your eyes and recover." Pretty amazing how quickly things can go
south and all the while I'm blissfully unaware. :-) Nice story

Jon

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Soon, I found myself closing *my* eyes, and feeling the
> weightlessness at the top of the arc, and the one-G steep turns, back
> and forth, all to the beat of the music. It was magical.
>

Larry Dighera
May 24th 07, 02:56 PM
On 23 May 2007 20:26:48 -0700, Jay Honeck > wrote
in om>:

>Soon, I found myself closing *my* eyes, and feeling the
>weightlessness at the top of the arc, and the one-G steep turns, back
>and forth, all to the beat of the music.


"one-G steep turns?"

Stealth Pilot[_2_]
May 24th 07, 02:57 PM
On Thu, 24 May 2007 11:58:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
> wrote:

>Mxsmanic > wrote in
:
>
>> Jay Honeck writes:
>>
>>> If there is a heaven, it must feel very much like this.
>>
>> It does, which is why many people with a good memory are attracted to
>> aviation.
>
>How the fjukk would you know?
>
>You don't fly and s\you sure as **** haven't been to heaven.
>
>
>
>Fjukktard
>
>
>Bertie

bertie for president :-) :-) :-)

Stealth (stay on his six!) Pilot

Jay Honeck
May 24th 07, 02:57 PM
> That was exactly how my instrument DE had me get into an unusual
> attitude. He said "close your eyes, now turn to the right, level it out,
> turn to the left, level it out, turn to the right, level it out, now
> open your eyes and recover." Pretty amazing how quickly things can go
> south and all the while I'm blissfully unaware. :-) Nice story

Heh heh. I *knew* I could count on someone bringing that up!

;-)

Okay, so my eyes were only closed for a few seconds. And Mary was in
the right seat, making sure I didn't go inverted. Or maybe it was
just tears in my eyes, making it hard to see.

Whatever, it was -- and always will be -- my version of heaven. Those
who have never experienced the joy of flying like this have my deepest
sympathy, as it is truly one of the greatest experiences a human can
have.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
May 24th 07, 03:24 PM
> >Soon, I found myself closing *my* eyes, and feeling the
> >weightlessness at the top of the arc, and the one-G steep turns, back
> >and forth, all to the beat of the music.
>
> "one-G steep turns?"

You know, the kind that Bob Hoover would demonstrate whilst pouring a
glass of iced tea...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
May 24th 07, 03:25 PM
> > If there is a heaven, it must feel very much like this.
>
> It does, which is why many people with a good memory are attracted to
> aviation.

You've been there?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Matt Barrow[_4_]
May 24th 07, 03:37 PM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...

>
> (For those who don't know the music, listen to it here, for free:
> http://www.onesixright.com/ )
>

Sounds like Enya.

Larry Dighera
May 24th 07, 04:12 PM
On 24 May 2007 07:24:49 -0700, Jay Honeck > wrote
in . com>:

>
>> "one-G steep turns?"
>
>You know, the kind that Bob Hoover would demonstrate whilst pouring a
>glass of iced tea...


Those were called 'loops' as I recall.

And there's no way I can think of to pull up at the bottom of a loop
without exceeding one G.

BDS[_2_]
May 24th 07, 04:22 PM
"Larry Dighera" > wrote

>
> >
> >> "one-G steep turns?"
> >
> >You know, the kind that Bob Hoover would demonstrate whilst pouring a
> >glass of iced tea...
>
>
> Those were called 'loops' as I recall.
>
> And there's no way I can think of to pull up at the bottom of a loop
> without exceeding one G.

They were barrel rolls.

BDS

Larry Dighera
May 24th 07, 04:51 PM
On Thu, 24 May 2007 11:22:05 -0400, "BDS" > wrote
in >:

>
>They were barrel rolls.

Right. They weren't one G turns. Or was Mr. Honeck performing
aerobatics with his family?

Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
May 24th 07, 05:12 PM
Stealth Pilot > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 24 May 2007 11:58:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
> > wrote:
>
>>Mxsmanic > wrote in
:
>>
>>> Jay Honeck writes:
>>>
>>>> If there is a heaven, it must feel very much like this.
>>>
>>> It does, which is why many people with a good memory are attracted
to
>>> aviation.
>>
>>How the fjukk would you know?
>>
>>You don't fly and s\you sure as **** haven't been to heaven.
>>
>>
>>
>>Fjukktard
>>
>>
>>Bertie
>
> bertie for president :-) :-) :-)

Don't think i'm stupid enough, thanks.


>
> Stealth (stay on his six!) Pilot
>

TheSmokingGnu
May 24th 07, 06:11 PM
Larry Dighera wrote:
> Those were called 'loops' as I recall.
>
> And there's no way I can think of to pull up at the bottom of a loop
> without exceeding one G.

Oh, that's easy!

Turn the aircraft onto its edge, and use some up elevator. See, one G
laterally, one G vertically. One G all 'round (and some very interesting
looks from the passengers). :D

TheSmokingGnu

Bill Watson
May 24th 07, 06:24 PM
Hey man, you got me all teared up.

I've got the music in the background but it doesn't do a thing for me.

Your daughter's experience is priceless. Very sweet.


Nothing has changed much on this list. But your post make a very
occassional visit worthwhile.

Thanks.

Montblack
May 24th 07, 08:03 PM
("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> My daughter, usually oblivious to the flying she has done so often
> since birth, suddenly asked me to "Do the soaring thing to the music,
> Dad, like you did before..."


Cool


Montblack

Mxsmanic
May 24th 07, 08:11 PM
Jay Honeck writes:

> You've been there?

We've all been there. Some of us remember it better than others, that's all.
The better we remember it, the more pleasant experiences such as you describe
tend to be.

Certain activities are highly conducive to a type of meditative state that
enhances consciousness. This enhancement helps us to remember what heaven is
like and to sense its proximity, which we find pleasant. Flying is among
these activities, and not just for pilots.

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Mxsmanic
May 24th 07, 08:12 PM
TheSmokingGnu writes:

> Turn the aircraft onto its edge, and use some up elevator. See, one G
> laterally, one G vertically. One G all 'round (and some very interesting
> looks from the passengers). :D

There's only one net acceleration vector, and its magnitude will exceed 1 G.

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Maxwell
May 24th 07, 09:30 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
>> You've been there?
>
> We've all been there. Some of us remember it better than others, that's
> all.
> The better we remember it, the more pleasant experiences such as you
> describe
> tend to be.
>
> Certain activities are highly conducive to a type of meditative state that
> enhances consciousness. This enhancement helps us to remember what heaven
> is
> like and to sense its proximity, which we find pleasant. Flying is among
> these activities, and not just for pilots.
>

Just useless blather. No will suffice.

gatt
May 24th 07, 09:59 PM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...

> Inspired, I let my inhibitions go, and began giant swoops and gentle
> push-overs, all in time to the orchestral crescendos of "One Six
> Right". Soon, I found myself closing *my* eyes, and feeling

I like to do this on the freeway...

(I kid. I'd never fly on a freeway.)

> And my daughter was "getting it"!

I've been watching the previews and wondering if there's some sort of
software that would allow you to have the clip going as your desktop
background image. DVD is on the way!

-c

Bertie the Bunyip
May 24th 07, 10:21 PM
On 24 May, 20:12, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> TheSmokingGnu writes:
> > Turn the aircraft onto its edge, and use some up elevator. See, one G
> > laterally, one G vertically. One G all 'round (and some very interesting
> > looks from the passengers). :D
>
> There's only one net acceleration vector, and its magnitude will exceed 1 G.
>

You're an idiot.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip
May 24th 07, 10:21 PM
On 24 May, 20:11, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Jay Honeck writes:
> > You've been there?
>
> We've all been there. Some of us remember it better than others, that's all.
> The better we remember it, the more pleasant experiences such as you describe
> tend to be.
>
> Certain activities are highly conducive to a type of meditative state that
> enhances consciousness. This enhancement helps us to remember what heaven is
> like and to sense its proximity, which we find pleasant. Flying is among
> these activities, and not just for pilots.

Good grief.


Where does one start?


Bertie

Jay Honeck
May 24th 07, 10:23 PM
> > You've been there?
>
> We've all been there. Some of us remember it better than others, that's all.
> The better we remember it, the more pleasant experiences such as you describe
> tend to be.
>
> Certain activities are highly conducive to a type of meditative state that
> enhances consciousness. This enhancement helps us to remember what heaven is
> like and to sense its proximity, which we find pleasant. Flying is among
> these activities, and not just for pilots.

"Waitress, I'll have whatever *that* gentleman is having..."

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
May 24th 07, 10:28 PM
> >They were barrel rolls.
>
> Right. They weren't one G turns. Or was Mr. Honeck performing
> aerobatics with his family?

Nah, nothing *that* exciting, I'm afraid.

You're right, of course, you really can't "swoop" without exceeding 1
G somewhere along the flight path. But, if you do it right, most of
the maneuver is very gentle, and the pushover at the top is quite
fun.

I guess I should have just said "gentle" steep turns, rather than
yanking and cranking.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jim Burns[_2_]
May 24th 07, 10:45 PM
ROFL! I don't think the stuff he's "having" is delivered by waitresses,
it's delivered by characters on the show "Cops".
Jim

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> > > You've been there?
> >
> > We've all been there. Some of us remember it better than others, that's
all.
> > The better we remember it, the more pleasant experiences such as you
describe
> > tend to be.
> >
> > Certain activities are highly conducive to a type of meditative state
that
> > enhances consciousness. This enhancement helps us to remember what
heaven is
> > like and to sense its proximity, which we find pleasant. Flying is
among
> > these activities, and not just for pilots.
>
> "Waitress, I'll have whatever *that* gentleman is having..."
>
> ;-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

Gene Seibel
May 24th 07, 11:11 PM
On May 23, 10:26 pm, Jay Honeck > wrote:

> When we landed, Becca -- vocally against the very notion of learning
> to fly for so many years -- said "Dad, maybe I *will* learn to fly
> some day..."
>
Even if she doesn't, she has had her mind stimulated in an extra
ordinary way. I remember my Becca coming to the realization that her
husband, along with most of the people she grew up with had "never
been anywhere."
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

Matt Whiting
May 24th 07, 11:30 PM
Larry Dighera wrote:
> On 24 May 2007 07:24:49 -0700, Jay Honeck > wrote
> in . com>:
>
>>> "one-G steep turns?"
>> You know, the kind that Bob Hoover would demonstrate whilst pouring a
>> glass of iced tea...
>
>
> Those were called 'loops' as I recall.
>
> And there's no way I can think of to pull up at the bottom of a loop
> without exceeding one G.

I think they were called barrel rolls.

Matt

Blueskies
May 25th 07, 12:56 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message ups.com...
> We were flying back from Springfield last Sunday, arcing into a
> setting sun the size of a pie tin. It was one of those flights where
> you keep catching yourself turning off course, just to get the sun
> behind the windshield post and out of your eyes...
>
....snip...
> She was grinning from ear to ear.
>
> Inspired, I let my inhibitions go, and began giant swoops and gentle
> push-overs, all in time to the orchestral crescendos of "One Six
> Right". Soon, I found myself closing *my* eyes, and feeling the
> weightlessness at the top of the arc, and the one-G steep turns, back
> and forth, all to the beat of the music. It was magical.
>
> Throat tightening, chest bursting, I wanted to cry with joy. If there
> is a heaven, it must feel very much like this.
>
> And my daughter was "getting it"!
>
> When we landed, Becca -- vocally against the very notion of learning
> to fly for so many years -- said "Dad, maybe I *will* learn to fly
> some day..."
>
> :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>


Sounds great...but I gotta ask...one-G steep turns?

;-)

rotor&wing
May 25th 07, 02:07 AM
We were flying back from Springfield last Sunday, arcing into a
setting sun the size of a pie tin. It was one of those flights where
you keep catching yourself turning off course, just to get the sun
behind the windshield post and out of your eyes...



Yaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn.................

Mxsmanic
May 25th 07, 05:13 AM
Matt Whiting writes:

> I think they were called barrel rolls.

Aerobatics aren't necessary to exceed 1 G. Any time your rate of climb
increases, you're exceeding 1 G. You also exceed 1 G in any level turn.

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buttman
May 25th 07, 05:19 AM
On May 24, 2:21 pm, Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote:
> On 24 May, 20:12, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>
> > TheSmokingGnu writes:
> > > Turn the aircraft onto its edge, and use some up elevator. See, one G
> > > laterally, one G vertically. One G all 'round (and some very interesting
> > > looks from the passengers). :D
>
> > There's only one net acceleration vector, and its magnitude will exceed 1 G.
>
> You're an idiot.
>
> Bertie

You're an idiot.

mike regish
May 25th 07, 10:46 AM
I saw barrel rolls.

mike

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On 24 May 2007 07:24:49 -0700, Jay Honeck > wrote
> in . com>:
>
>>
>>> "one-G steep turns?"
>>
>>You know, the kind that Bob Hoover would demonstrate whilst pouring a
>>glass of iced tea...
>
>
> Those were called 'loops' as I recall.
>
> And there's no way I can think of to pull up at the bottom of a loop
> without exceeding one G.

Jay Honeck
May 25th 07, 09:41 PM
> Even if she doesn't, she has had her mind stimulated in an extra
> ordinary way. I remember my Becca coming to the realization that her
> husband, along with most of the people she grew up with had "never
> been anywhere."

Yep, my Becca already knows that her flying privileges have set her
apart from her friends at school. While they are totally excited
when they go to nearby Lake McBride for the weekend, Bec can
(normally) be totally blase about flying to Kansas City, St. Louis,
Minneapolis, etc.

That's what makes this experience so special for me. She normally
doesn't show that she appreciates flying in any way, and it's nice to
see some acknowledgement of the fact that the life we've given her is
somehow special.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
May 29th 07, 09:23 PM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Matt Whiting writes:
>
>> I think they were called barrel rolls.
>
> Aerobatics aren't necessary to exceed 1 G. Any time your rate of climb
> increases, you're exceeding 1 G. You also exceed 1 G in any level turn.

Really?


Bwawhahwhahhwhahwhahwhhahwhah!


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
May 29th 07, 09:25 PM
"BDS" > wrote in news:z4i5i.2383$C96.970
@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net:

> "Larry Dighera" > wrote
>
>>
>> >
>> >> "one-G steep turns?"
>> >
>> >You know, the kind that Bob Hoover would demonstrate whilst pouring
a
>> >glass of iced tea...
>>
>>
>> Those were called 'loops' as I recall.
>>
>> And there's no way I can think of to pull up at the bottom of a loop
>> without exceeding one G.
>
> They were barrel rolls.

Barrel rolls exceed one G. The only roll you can do at one G is a
perfect slow roll and the orange juice would go everywhere in one of
those.


Bertie

Kloudy via AviationKB.com
May 31st 07, 10:17 PM
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>"BDS" > wrote in news:z4i5i.2383$C96.970
:
>
>>> >> "one-G steep turns?"
>>> >
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> They were barrel rolls.
>
>Barrel rolls exceed one G. The only roll you can do at one G is a
>perfect slow roll and the orange juice would go everywhere in one of
>those.
>
>Bertie

you're an idiot

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Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
June 1st 07, 12:54 AM
"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" <u33403@uwe> wrote in news:7304344c1faf9@uwe:

> Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>>"BDS" > wrote in news:z4i5i.2383$C96.970
:
>>
>>>> >> "one-G steep turns?"
>>>> >
>>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>>
>>> They were barrel rolls.
>>
>>Barrel rolls exceed one G. The only roll you can do at one G is a
>>perfect slow roll and the orange juice would go everywhere in one of
>>those.
>>
>>Bertie
>
> you're an idiot
>

Sez you!

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
June 1st 07, 12:55 AM
buttman > wrote in
ups.com:

> On May 24, 2:21 pm, Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote:
>> On 24 May, 20:12, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>>
>> > TheSmokingGnu writes:
>> > > Turn the aircraft onto its edge, and use some up elevator. See,
>> > > one G laterally, one G vertically. One G all 'round (and some
>> > > very interesting looks from the passengers). :D
>>
>> > There's only one net acceleration vector, and its magnitude will
>> > exceed 1 G.
>>
>> You're an idiot.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> You're an idiot.
>

Bwawhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahw hahwhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahw
!

Aww, mr luser flight instrucotr got his panites in a wad?

BTW. I'll recommend a book for you later.


Bertie

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