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Hi all. I'd appreciate any thoughts on which is the best airport to
land at in a single if flying in to visit Manhattan and parking up for
2 nights. Which airport provides the best combination of affordable
parking and affordable but swift access to Manhattan?

Teterboro seems expensive but a bit closer than White Plains. Does TEB
save you any time or not really?

How about LDJ? I tried to call the FBO for information but can't get
through.

Thanks for the help,

Tom

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, said:
>Hi all. I'd appreciate any thoughts on which is the best airport to
>land at in a single if flying in to visit Manhattan and parking up for
>2 nights. Which airport provides the best combination of affordable
>parking and affordable but swift access to Manhattan?
>
>Teterboro seems expensive but a bit closer than White Plains. Does TEB
>save you any time or not really?
>
>How about LDJ? I tried to call the FBO for information but can't get
>through.

Oh snap! I was just about to ask the same question - I've got a job
interview in Manhattan next Friday and thought about stretching it out to
a two night stay. The only time I've been close to the New York City
Class B in the past was a trip to Caldwell NJ to pick out soapstone for
our counter tops and found that a very nice airport if a little difficult
to leave IFR, so I'd be interested to know the answers to this as well.


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[Erik]

Just try to avoid those high-rise condos.

wrote:
> Hi all. I'd appreciate any thoughts on which is the best airport to
> land at in a single if flying in to visit Manhattan and parking up for
> 2 nights. Which airport provides the best combination of affordable
> parking and affordable but swift access to Manhattan?
>
> Teterboro seems expensive but a bit closer than White Plains. Does TEB
> save you any time or not really?
>
> How about LDJ? I tried to call the FBO for information but can't get
> through.
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> Tom
>

[JB]

On Jun 6, 4:26 pm, wrote:
> Hi all. I'd appreciate any thoughts on which is the best airport to
> land at in a single if flying in to visit Manhattan and parking up for
> 2 nights. Which airport provides the best combination of affordable
> parking and affordable but swift access to Manhattan?
>
> Teterboro seems expensive but a bit closer than White Plains. Does TEB
> save you any time or not really?
>
> How about LDJ? I tried to call the FBO for information but can't get
> through.
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> Tom

This question has been asked (and answered) a few times recently. Do
a search in this group. The bottom line...stay away from TEB or you
might need an ambulance with heart attack gear when you get the bill.
It is the closest to Manhattan (a quick 20 min bus ride to Port
Authority). But there are fees on top of fees for everything. The
general consensus seems to be HPN as #1, followed by either LDJ or
CDW. All 3 are further away, but cheaper and nicer to us little guys.

--Jeff

[Kingfish]

On Jun 6, 7:03 pm, JB > wrote:

The bottom line...stay away from TEB or you
> might need an ambulance with heart attack gear when you get the bill.
> It is the closest to Manhattan (a quick 20 min bus ride to Port
> Authority). But there are fees on top of fees for everything. The
> general consensus seems to be HPN as #1, followed by either LDJ or
> CDW. All 3 are further away, but cheaper and nicer to us little guys.
>

X2. We fly into TEB all summer long in the Pilatus and you wouldn't
believe what Jet Aviation charges us for a ramp fee. If you go White
Plains (HPN) parking at Westair or Panorama are the only choices.

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Thanks. Sounds like it's between HPN and LDJ as to which is the best
option for me. Does anyone who flies into LDJ have any guidance on the
local approach procedures? Do you just stay clear of the Class B, or
do you get a clearance from Newark?




On Jun 6, 10:58 pm, Kingfish > wrote:
> On Jun 6, 7:03 pm, JB > wrote:
>
> The bottom line...stay away from TEB or you
>
> > might need an ambulance with heart attack gear when you get the bill.
> > It is the closest to Manhattan (a quick 20 min bus ride to Port
> > Authority). But there are fees on top of fees for everything. The
> > general consensus seems to be HPN as #1, followed by either LDJ or
> > CDW. All 3 are further away, but cheaper and nicer to us little guys.
>
> X2. We fly into TEB all summer long in the Pilatus and you wouldn't
> believe what Jet Aviation charges us for a ramp fee. If you go White
> Plains (HPN) parking at Westair or Panorama are the only choices.

[Roy Smith]

In article . com>,
wrote:

> Thanks. Sounds like it's between HPN and LDJ as to which is the best
> option for me. Does anyone who flies into LDJ have any guidance on the
> local approach procedures? Do you just stay clear of the Class B, or
> do you get a clearance from Newark?

I don't fly into LDJ too often, but the times that I have, it's been a
piece of cake. Call up NY Approach and get a Class Bravo clearance. At
some point, they'll hand you off to Newark Tower who will vector you until
you have LDJ in sight. The field is a little hard to spot in the urban
ground clutter. It really helps to have a GPS.

If you're coming from the north, don't be surprised if they vector you
right over the numbers of Newark's 4L & 4R at about 1000 feet at right
angles to the traffic flow. It sounds weird, but it's actually the most
out of the way place they can put you; you're above both the landing and
departing traffic. If he says "fly over the numbers", do exactly that, not
vaguely in the vicinity of the end of the runway.

On the way out, I call Newark Tower from the runnup pad, tell them I'm
departing LDJ and request a Class Bravo clearance. They'll usually give
you a squawk and tell you to remain clear of the Class Bravo at or below
800 and give them a call once you're in the air. You'll get your actual
clearance once they establish radar contact.

[Jose]

> Sounds like it's between HPN and LDJ as to which is the best
> option for me.

Don't leave the Long Island airports out. They have the advantage of
being close(r) to light rail into Manhattan.

Jose
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[David Kazdan]

Danbury, Connecticut has a nice airport near a rail link to the city.

David

Jose wrote:
>> Sounds like it's between HPN and LDJ as to which is the best
>> option for me.
>
> Don't leave the Long Island airports out. They have the advantage of
> being close(r) to light rail into Manhattan.
>
> Jose

[Frank Ch. Eigler]

David Kazdan > writes:

> Danbury, Connecticut has a nice airport near a rail link to the city.

Yeah, there are smaller airports available. But consider accounting
for your own time when comparing costs of alternatives. Sure, landing
at KTEB, KEWR, or KLGA may take 20-200 bucks to park, but you get to
Manhattan in half an hour.

- FChE

[B A R R Y]

On 09 Jun 2007 10:30:38 -0400, (Frank Ch. Eigler)
wrote:

>
>David Kazdan > writes:
>
>> Danbury, Connecticut has a nice airport near a rail link to the city.
>
>Yeah, there are smaller airports available. But consider accounting
>for your own time when comparing costs of alternatives. Sure, landing
>at KTEB, KEWR, or KLGA may take 20-200 bucks to park, but you get to
>Manhattan in half an hour.
>

DXR is a decent distance by cab from the rail station. The train
isn't that cheap, and it dosen't run as often as others around NYC.

Frank makes sense.

[Roy Smith]

In article >,
B A R R Y > wrote:

> On 09 Jun 2007 10:30:38 -0400, (Frank Ch. Eigler)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >David Kazdan > writes:
> >
> >> Danbury, Connecticut has a nice airport near a rail link to the city.
> >
> >Yeah, there are smaller airports available. But consider accounting
> >for your own time when comparing costs of alternatives. Sure, landing
> >at KTEB, KEWR, or KLGA may take 20-200 bucks to park, but you get to
> >Manhattan in half an hour.
> >
>
> DXR is a decent distance by cab from the rail station. The train
> isn't that cheap, and it dosen't run as often as others around NYC.

If you're thinking of landing at DXR, you would do better to use HPN. It's
a 10 minute cab ride to the White Plains train station. Trains run much
more frequently to White Plains than to Danbury, and the trip to Grand
Central is probably half the time once you're on a train. At peak times,
there's 10-12 trains an hour to/from White Plains. Many of them run
express and take a half hour. Even in the middle of the day there's 3 or 4
an hour to White Plains. Check the Metro North schedules at
http://as0.mta.info/mnr/schedules/sched_form.cfm.

If you are flying into DXR, I would strongly recommend all arrivals and
departures be done during daylight, or use instrument procedures, if you're
not familiar with the airport.

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:40:54 -0400, Roy Smith > wrote:

>
>If you're thinking of landing at DXR, you would do better to use HPN.

Exactly my point.

[David Kazdan]

Hmm, OK, I'm outvoted...my wife and I flew there for a New York trip two
weeks ago because we have relatives in Redding. My preference otherwise
would have been HPN, but it was a very pleasant trip overall and I
thought I'd mention the Danbury airport.

David

David Kazdan wrote:
> Danbury, Connecticut has a nice airport near a rail link to the city.
>
> David
>
> Jose wrote:
>>> Sounds like it's between HPN and LDJ as to which is the best
>>> option for me.
>>
>> Don't leave the Long Island airports out. They have the advantage of
>> being close(r) to light rail into Manhattan.
>>
>> Jose

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Pirep:

We flew into Linden, New Jersey, LDJ.

It was about 45 minutes into the city by taxi ($100) and about the
same total journey time back by train and taxi ($much less).

The airport was great. It's quiet and small so time spent taxiing was
minimal and time spent waiting for other aircraft was zero. The staff
at the FBO were very friendly and helpful, and the first night's fee
of $20 was waived with fuel purchase. I really liked it.

I've never flown into the big ones, but my guess is the extra time you
spend taxiing and queueing eats up the time savings of being closer
and much of the cost savings of being closer if you take a taxi.

The biggest disadvantage was the trains don't go that often so you
could have to wait.

Overall a great experience though.

[JB]

On Jun 11, 10:24 am, wrote:
> Pirep:
>
> We flew into Linden, New Jersey, LDJ.
>
> It was about 45 minutes into the city by taxi ($100) and about the
> same total journey time back by train and taxi ($much less).
>
> The airport was great. It's quiet and small so time spent taxiing was
> minimal and time spent waiting for other aircraft was zero. The staff
> at the FBO were very friendly and helpful, and the first night's fee
> of $20 was waived with fuel purchase. I really liked it.
>
> I've never flown into the big ones, but my guess is the extra time you
> spend taxiing and queueing eats up the time savings of being closer
> and much of the cost savings of being closer if you take a taxi.
>
> The biggest disadvantage was the trains don't go that often so you
> could have to wait.
>
> Overall a great experience though.

Thanks for the PIREP. Can you provide details on mass transit (bus
and/or train) from the city? Distance of bus stop/station from the
airport? Transportation to/from the FBO, etc.

--Jeff

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Train to and from the city is half an hour. It's New Jersey Transit
(www.njtransit.com). I don't know about other days of the week, but on
Sundays there are 2 trains an hour, very close together. Train goes to
Penn Station. Taxi ride between the airport and the station is 5
minutes.


>
> Thanks for the PIREP. Can you provide details on mass transit (bus
> and/or train) from the city? Distance of bus stop/station from the
> airport? Transportation to/from the FBO, etc.
>
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