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Gig 601XL Builder
June 8th 07, 09:02 PM
Our city council was told last night by the mayor that a fire truck was
going to have to be placed and manned at KELD because of "a federal mandate
requiring fire-fighting personnel and equipment be posted at the airport 15
minutes before and 15 minutes after the take-off and landing of each flight
at the airport." If the reg is for real I'm sure that "part 121" should be
in that sentence some where and we do have scheduled air service with Mesa.
I just find it strange that this regulation just got promulgated. So either
it did or we have been in violation for quite some time or the mayor is full
of crap.
But, according to the article the FAA going to give the city a fire fighting
truck to be delivered next month.
Peter Clark
June 9th 07, 01:29 AM
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:02:26 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:
>Our city council was told last night by the mayor that a fire truck was
>going to have to be placed and manned at KELD because of "a federal mandate
>requiring fire-fighting personnel and equipment be posted at the airport 15
>minutes before and 15 minutes after the take-off and landing of each flight
>at the airport." If the reg is for real I'm sure that "part 121" should be
>in that sentence some where and we do have scheduled air service with Mesa.
>
>I just find it strange that this regulation just got promulgated. So either
>it did or we have been in violation for quite some time or the mayor is full
>of crap.
>
>But, according to the article the FAA going to give the city a fire fighting
>truck to be delivered next month.
If you have scheduled service the airport is probably part 139
certified. See 139.319:
Sec. 139.319
Aircraft rescue and firefighting: Operational requirements.
(a) Rescue and firefighting capability. Except as provided in
paragraph (c) of this section, each certificate holder [must] provide
on the airport, during air carrier operations at the airport, at least
the rescue and firefighting capability specified for the Index
required by Sec. 139.317 in a manner authorized by the Administrator.
(rest of reg snipped). If you have service, are 139 certified, and
didn't have a truck it seems that the airport was just in violation of
the reg. I'm surprised it got air carrier certified if it didn't have
a truck at the time service was started.
Course, I could be misreading the reg.
Steven P. McNicoll
June 9th 07, 02:21 PM
"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>
> Our city council was told last night by the mayor that a fire truck was
> going to have to be placed and manned at KELD because of "a federal
> mandate requiring fire-fighting personnel and equipment be posted at the
> airport 15 minutes before and 15 minutes after the take-off and landing of
> each flight at the airport." If the reg is for real I'm sure that "part
> 121" should be in that sentence some where and we do have scheduled air
> service with Mesa.
>
> I just find it strange that this regulation just got promulgated. So
> either it did or we have been in violation for quite some time or the
> mayor is full of crap.
>
> But, according to the article the FAA going to give the city a fire
> fighting truck to be delivered next month.
That's a Part 139 requirement, it applies only to airports with passenger
service. It's not a new regulation.
Gig 601XL Builder
June 11th 07, 03:33 PM
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Our city council was told last night by the mayor that a fire truck
>> was going to have to be placed and manned at KELD because of "a
>> federal mandate requiring fire-fighting personnel and equipment be
>> posted at the airport 15 minutes before and 15 minutes after the
>> take-off and landing of each flight at the airport." If the reg is
>> for real I'm sure that "part 121" should be in that sentence some
>> where and we do have scheduled air service with Mesa.
>>
>> I just find it strange that this regulation just got promulgated. So
>> either it did or we have been in violation for quite some time or the
>> mayor is full of crap.
>>
>> But, according to the article the FAA going to give the city a fire
>> fighting truck to be delivered next month.
>
> That's a Part 139 requirement, it applies only to airports with
> passenger service. It's not a new regulation.
I did a little digging this weekend and yes we have been in violation for
quite some time. Good news is we aren't anymore. A truck was delivered to
the airport Saturday as I was leaving.
The nearest fire station is about 10 minutes away. So for every flight we
are looking at having two firefighters have to be out assigned for at least
an hour and a half.
[makes note to schedule first flight of 601XL for when they will be there]
Steven P. McNicoll
June 12th 07, 12:08 AM
"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>
> I did a little digging this weekend and yes we have been in violation for
> quite some time. Good news is we aren't anymore. A truck was delivered to
> the airport Saturday as I was leaving.
>
> The nearest fire station is about 10 minutes away. So for every flight we
> are looking at having two firefighters have to be out assigned for at
> least an hour and a half.
>
> [makes note to schedule first flight of 601XL for when they will be there]
What carrier serves KELD?
Gig 601XL Builder
June 12th 07, 02:15 PM
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I did a little digging this weekend and yes we have been in
>> violation for quite some time. Good news is we aren't anymore. A
>> truck was delivered to the airport Saturday as I was leaving.
>>
>> The nearest fire station is about 10 minutes away. So for every
>> flight we are looking at having two firefighters have to be out
>> assigned for at least an hour and a half.
>>
>> [makes note to schedule first flight of 601XL for when they will be
>> there]
>
> What carrier serves KELD?
Mesa, thanks to the Essential Air Service Program.
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