Aircraft Museum in Denmark Den Danske Flysamling-Stauning-P5310.nzb (1/1)

[holgi]

[Shiver]

TO THE GROUP...... Correct me if I am wrong.

Was it not decided a few years ago that this would be
a YENC free group.

To the poster.... Nice try but there is no use in using
YENC which is supposed to be a way of making files smaller if you are
going to post such huge files in the first place.

[Ole]

shiver > wrote in news:100620071351049791%
:

>
> TO THE GROUP...... Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Was it not decided a few years ago that this would be
> a YENC free group.
>
> To the poster.... Nice try but there is no use in using
> YENC which is supposed to be a way of making files smaller if you are
> going to post such huge files in the first place.
>

Det er noget skrammel, du har sendt afsted.

Ole

[Mitchell Holman]

shiver > wrote in news:100620071351049791%
:

>
> TO THE GROUP...... Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Was it not decided a few years ago that this would be
> a YENC free group.
>

And a flooding free group.

139 (so far) images in one posting, with no indexes.

Clueless newbie alert..........


> To the poster.... Nice try but there is no use in using
> YENC which is supposed to be a way of making files smaller if you are
> going to post such huge files in the first place.
>

[Andrew-S]

God Damn it!!!
I grabbed 30 of these *******s before I realized what it was...

After how many years have I been doing this??? You would think I would
have learned by now!!!


Andrew

[John Meyer]

In article >,
shiver > wrote:

> TO THE GROUP...... Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Was it not decided a few years ago that this would be
> a YENC free group.
>
> To the poster.... Nice try but there is no use in using
> YENC which is supposed to be a way of making files smaller if you are
> going to post such huge files in the first place.

Shiver, you are not that smart.

holgi did not use yEnc to encode his posts, and if he had they would
have been considerably smaller. And since I use a proper newsreader that
supports yEnc, I'd have been able to look at them without any problem.
As it is, they are excessively large. They are good pictures though, and
as I'm upgrading to cable tomorrow so I'll look at them then. Should
take a few seconds each!

--
One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can
not grasp.*- Ed Wood

[Shiver]

> John Meyer > wrote:

> Shiver, you are not that smart.

I don't believe I have ever infered or stated that I was smart in any
posting that I have ever made to any newsgroup...... ever.

But you can correct me if I am wrong.


> holgi did not use yEnc to encode his posts,

Well excuse me for noticing the from line contains the word YENC.

Well excuse me for taking a peek at the encoding of one of his posts
and not noticing that although it looks like YENC encoding it appears
to be some encoding that I've never heard of called NZB.

So what the **** is NZB and what is so special about it that a simple
photograph requires fourty thousand plus lines of encoding from this
poster.

Come on Mr. Meyer.

Your infering that I'm not smart so you must be also infering that you
are, so come on back and tell all of us stupid people just what the
****
is NZB and what makes it so special.

[Guybrush Threepwood]

shiver wrote:
>> John Meyer > wrote:
>
>> Shiver, you are not that smart.
>
> I don't believe I have ever infered or stated that I was smart in any
> posting that I have ever made to any newsgroup...... ever.
>
> But you can correct me if I am wrong.
>
>
>> holgi did not use yEnc to encode his posts,
>
> Well excuse me for noticing the from line contains the word YENC.
>
> Well excuse me for taking a peek at the encoding of one of his posts
> and not noticing that although it looks like YENC encoding it appears
> to be some encoding that I've never heard of called NZB.
>
> So what the **** is NZB and what is so special about it that a simple
> photograph requires fourty thousand plus lines of encoding from this
> poster.
>
> Come on Mr. Meyer.
>
> Your infering that I'm not smart so you must be also infering that you
> are, so come on back and tell all of us stupid people just what the
> ****
> is NZB and what makes it so special.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB

.....:-)
--

Gruß Guybrush

[Shiver]

> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB


Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.

But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
worked faithfully for all these years.

I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.

[Tom Horn]

Thank you !! very good pictures from another part of the world that
I'll never get to experience if it wasn't for one like you. thank you
,
TH

[Clairbear]

shiver > wrote in news:110620071458125094%
:

>> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB
>
>
> Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.
>
> But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
> old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
> worked faithfully for all these years.
>
> I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.
>

Why not get a newsreader like xnews which Yenc friendly
the it won't matter how they post

[Clairbear]

(holgi) wrote in
:

>
> =ybegin part=1 line=128 size=92318 name=Den Danske
> Flysamling-Stauning-P5310.nzb =ypart begin=1 end=92318
> Attachment decoded: Den Danske Flysamling-Stauning-P5310.nzb
> =yend size=92318 part=1 pcrc32=b70f5335
>
not a bad set of pics
but unless you want us to make 16X20 inch prints the size is big time
overkill A suggestion when you post next time how about scaling them down
to a bout 150 or 100 dpi at about 8x10 or 5x7 inches and you'll get a lot
less flack about from the lurkers and other posters

[Norm DePlume]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:56:57 GMT, shiver >
wrote:

>> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB
>
>
>Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.
>
>But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
>old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
>worked faithfully for all these years.
>
>I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.

Hello,
These are plain old simple jpgs. yEncoding is a transmission protocol.

[Andrew-S]

Why not share the images with those of us who prefer the much maligned but
effective MS Outlook Express? There are dozens of readers and E-mail
programs out there. Yes the other programs may have greater capabilities
and are many times more powerful, however for the very casual user of the
newsgroups MS OE is more than adequate. Speaking for myself, over and over
again I still prefer OE. I strongly suspect that the vast majority of PC
users, have a similar opinion, whether they admit it or not...

Andrew



"Clairbear" > wrote in message
...
> shiver > wrote in news:110620071458125094%
> :
>
>>> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:
>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB
>>
>>
>> Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.
>>
>> But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
>> old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
>> worked faithfully for all these years.
>>
>> I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.
>>
>
> Why not get a newsreader like xnews which Yenc friendly
> the it won't matter how they post

[Shiver]

> Andrew-S <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I> wrote:

> I strongly suspect that the vast majority of PC
> users, have a similar opinion, whether they admit it or not...
>
> Andrew

And then lets not forget about those much maligned minority users
who happen to like the gasp.............. MACINTOSH.

> > Why not get a newsreader like xnews

Because it won't work on a MACINTOSH.

[Andrew-S]

Shiver,
You are absolutely correct however though I do have a Mac as well. I have
never tried to access the Newsgroups on my Mac. Funnily enough these days
it seems as if I have to buy every software package twice. One for my two
PCs (Laptop and desktop) and one for the Mac. My next two purchases are
actually going to be for the Mac; CS3 and Aperture..

Andrew

"shiver" > wrote in message
...
>> Andrew-S <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I> wrote:
>
>> I strongly suspect that the vast majority of PC
>> users, have a similar opinion, whether they admit it or not...
>>
>> Andrew
>
> And then lets not forget about those much maligned minority users
> who happen to like the gasp.............. MACINTOSH.
>
>> > Why not get a newsreader like xnews
>
> Because it won't work on a MACINTOSH.

[Woody]

I agree Andrew. These idiots that feel everyone should hold them as king of
the newsgroup should get a life. I prefer Outlook Express. Whenever I run
into the YENC idiots I just put them in the KILL file and forget about their
bad photography..


"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com> wrote in
message ...
> Why not share the images with those of us who prefer the much maligned but
> effective MS Outlook Express? There are dozens of readers and E-mail
> programs out there. Yes the other programs may have greater capabilities
> and are many times more powerful, however for the very casual user of the
> newsgroups MS OE is more than adequate. Speaking for myself, over and
> over again I still prefer OE. I strongly suspect that the vast majority
> of PC users, have a similar opinion, whether they admit it or not...
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> "Clairbear" > wrote in message
> ...
>> shiver > wrote in news:110620071458125094%
>> :
>>
>>>> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.
>>>
>>> But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
>>> old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
>>> worked faithfully for all these years.
>>>
>>> I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.
>>>
>>
>> Why not get a newsreader like xnews which Yenc friendly
>> the it won't matter how they post
>
>

[Clairbear]

"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
wrote in :

> Why not share the images with those of us who prefer the much maligned
> but effective MS Outlook Express? There are dozens of readers and
> E-mail programs out there. Yes the other programs may have greater
> capabilities and are many times more powerful, however for the very
> casual user of the newsgroups MS OE is more than adequate. Speaking
> for myself, over and over again I still prefer OE. I strongly suspect
> that the vast majority of PC users, have a similar opinion, whether
> they admit it or not...
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> "Clairbear" > wrote in message
> ...
>> shiver > wrote in news:110620071458125094%
>> :
>>
>>>> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.
>>>
>>> But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
>>> old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
>>> worked faithfully for all these years.
>>>
>>> I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.
>>>
>>
>> Why not get a newsreader like xnews which Yenc friendly
>> the it won't matter how they post
>
>
>

Why limit yourself by using MS OE when you can get a great newreader for
free? It's kind of like eating dry toast when jam and butter are available
at no extra cost. I suppose you would rather find new sites by trial and
error rather than using a good search engine like google>

[Clairbear]

shiver > wrote in news:120620070542082877%
:

>> Andrew-S <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I> wrote:
>
>> I strongly suspect that the vast majority of PC
>> users, have a similar opinion, whether they admit it or not...
>>
>> Andrew
>
> And then lets not forget about those much maligned minority users
> who happen to like the gasp.............. MACINTOSH.
>
>> > Why not get a newsreader like xnews
>
> Because it won't work on a MACINTOSH.
>

I am sure somewhere there is a search engine that will work on macs if you
search for it Besides if you can afford a Mac you can surely spring for a
cheap PC for internet use and free up your mac to do what it does best.

[Clairbear]

"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
wrote in :

> Shiver,
> You are absolutely correct however though I do have a Mac as well. I
> have never tried to access the Newsgroups on my Mac. Funnily enough
> these days it seems as if I have to buy every software package twice.
> One for my two PCs (Laptop and desktop) and one for the Mac. My next
> two purchases are actually going to be for the Mac; CS3 and
> Aperture..
>
> Andrew
>
>>
>

Which version of CS3 are you getting I will be getting the video
production package upgradeas soon as it is available my self. but here
again why not get xnews for you PC It's free and easier to use than MS OE

[Clairbear]

"Woody" > wrote in
:

> I agree Andrew. These idiots that feel everyone should hold them as
> king of the newsgroup should get a life. I prefer Outlook Express.
> Whenever I run into the YENC idiots I just put them in the KILL file
> and forget about their bad photography..

Hey Woody
I am no fan of the guys who think they know it all and have to rub
everyone else's nose in it. But when you can get some freeware that
enhances and simplifies the usenet why not use it And if the pics are crap
just delete them.
"It is better to light a single candle, than to curse the darkness"

Try a newreader like xnews you might actually like it If you don't just
uninstall it!

[Andrew-S]

The video capabilities with no disrespect intended don't do a thing for
me... I am a photographer so the basic CS3 should be more than sufficient.
I should also mention that I am going to be buying the CS3 upgrade for the
PC and the full version for the Mac. Aperture will of course only be for
the Mac. After these are done I have every intention of buying a new PC (in
the fall) and a new G5 (around Christmas or next year).

Andrew

"Clairbear" > wrote in message
...
> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
> wrote in :
>
>> Shiver,
>> You are absolutely correct however though I do have a Mac as well. I
>> have never tried to access the Newsgroups on my Mac. Funnily enough
>> these days it seems as if I have to buy every software package twice.
>> One for my two PCs (Laptop and desktop) and one for the Mac. My next
>> two purchases are actually going to be for the Mac; CS3 and
>> Aperture..
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>>
>>
>
> Which version of CS3 are you getting I will be getting the video
> production package upgradeas soon as it is available my self. but here
> again why not get xnews for you PC It's free and easier to use than MS OE

[Andrew-S]

Because it means having to learn a new system and incorporate that into the
daily routines...
Don't get me wrong I have in the past played with Xnews and a few others...
Yes they work great but I am not a serious NG player anymore. Perhaps if MS
or one of the big software guys releases something that is in the under $50
range I may consider it. But I don't like to tinker much these days, and
prefer to go with what's reliable and simple.

Andrew

"Clairbear" > wrote in message
...
> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
> wrote in :
>
>> Why not share the images with those of us who prefer the much maligned
>> but effective MS Outlook Express? There are dozens of readers and
>> E-mail programs out there. Yes the other programs may have greater
>> capabilities and are many times more powerful, however for the very
>> casual user of the newsgroups MS OE is more than adequate. Speaking
>> for myself, over and over again I still prefer OE. I strongly suspect
>> that the vast majority of PC users, have a similar opinion, whether
>> they admit it or not...
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> "Clairbear" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> shiver > wrote in news:110620071458125094%
>>> :
>>>
>>>>> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.
>>>>
>>>> But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
>>>> old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
>>>> worked faithfully for all these years.
>>>>
>>>> I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not get a newsreader like xnews which Yenc friendly
>>> the it won't matter how they post
>>
>>
>>
>
> Why limit yourself by using MS OE when you can get a great newreader for
> free? It's kind of like eating dry toast when jam and butter are available
> at no extra cost. I suppose you would rather find new sites by trial and
> error rather than using a good search engine like google>

[Paul Elliot]

Woody wrote:
> I agree Andrew. These idiots that feel everyone should hold them as king of
> the newsgroup should get a life. I prefer Outlook Express. Whenever I run
> into the YENC idiots I just put them in the KILL file and forget about their
> bad photography..
>
>
> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com> wrote in
> message ...
>> Why not share the images with those of us who prefer the much maligned but
>> effective MS Outlook Express? There are dozens of readers and E-mail
>> programs out there. Yes the other programs may have greater capabilities
>> and are many times more powerful, however for the very casual user of the
>> newsgroups MS OE is more than adequate. Speaking for myself, over and
>> over again I still prefer OE. I strongly suspect that the vast majority
>> of PC users, have a similar opinion, whether they admit it or not...
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> "Clairbear" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> shiver > wrote in news:110620071458125094%
>>> :
>>>
>>>>> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.
>>>>
>>>> But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
>>>> old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
>>>> worked faithfully for all these years.
>>>>
>>>> I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.
>>>>
>>> Why not get a newsreader like xnews which Yenc friendly
>>> the it won't matter how they post
>>
>
>

The big issue that I have with Yenc is the very high error rate and
corruption of images.

--
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/

[John Szalay]

"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
wrote in :
>
>>> > Why not get a newsreader like xnews
>>
>> Because it won't work on a MACINTOSH.
>
>
>


I've been playing with Apples new "Safari" browser for Windows
to-day. while it appears to NOT have USENET newsgroups support
I did look to see that there are several USENET readers available
for MAC products..

appears to be 18 reported..among them..

Cocoa NewsPost by FOR neXtSoft
Cocoa Newspost is an all in one auto poster. You want an easy to use
application with industrial strength? Cocoa Newpost has all the tools...

Diiva by Diiva
Graphical Usenet newsgroup browser designed to facilitate viewing
newsgroup graphics...

DNEWS is a server for providing fast access to USENET news groups and/or
local discussion forums; suitable for large and small ISP's and
Corporate...

[Andrew-S]

I wouldn't go so far as to describe it as bad photography anything else...
It's just different levels of comfort that people have.
In the past I have played with many of the titles they talk about and I will
give them full credit for their capabilities. However in a public NG that is
hopefully intended to be open to everyone, I don't see why they insist that
their way is the ONLY way. If it was closed NG with moderation then I have
no problem with Yenc or any other type of protocol. The premise being that
if you want to play in that closed NG then you play by their rules or not at
all. However in an open newsgroup the dynamics are a bit different. I know
that when I post an image I want as many people as possible to see it. So
why would you eliminate a huge portion of your viewing public. It's the
same as me handing a client a CD of images that I took for them; but rather
than using JPG I handed them in PSD or raw format. Then when the client
complains I turn around and suggest a new viewer. Not a smart combo
especially when I could have just used JPG instead, and saved both of us the
headache.

Andrew




"Woody" > wrote in message
. ..
>I agree Andrew. These idiots that feel everyone should hold them as king of
>the newsgroup should get a life. I prefer Outlook Express. Whenever I run
>into the YENC idiots I just put them in the KILL file and forget about
>their bad photography..
>
>
> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com> wrote
> in message ...
>> Why not share the images with those of us who prefer the much maligned
>> but effective MS Outlook Express? There are dozens of readers and E-mail
>> programs out there. Yes the other programs may have greater capabilities
>> and are many times more powerful, however for the very casual user of the
>> newsgroups MS OE is more than adequate. Speaking for myself, over and
>> over again I still prefer OE. I strongly suspect that the vast majority
>> of PC users, have a similar opinion, whether they admit it or not...
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> "Clairbear" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> shiver > wrote in news:110620071458125094%
>>> :
>>>
>>>>> Guybrush Threepwood > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.... Seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be delivered.
>>>>
>>>> But just out of simple curiousity.... what's wrong with just a plain
>>>> old simple JPG that everyone in the world is familiar with and has
>>>> worked faithfully for all these years.
>>>>
>>>> I mean a million or more postings to this group can't be wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not get a newsreader like xnews which Yenc friendly
>>> the it won't matter how they post
>>
>>
>
>

[Shiver]

> Andrew-S <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I> wrote:

> when I post an image I want as many people as possible to see it.

Well Andrew it's very good to see you back.

I thought you had gone forever.

Your comments above are hitting the nail squarly on the head.

I'm amazed in some of the other groups where the posters insists that
you march to their drum or else.

In my case ( with my Macintosh ) I use an old operating system and
older software.

All of these new Mac browsers and newsreaders will not work with my
system.

I know I'm behind the times but there you go.

I ask politely if they could post in a normal fashion but if they say
no then since I will never ever get to see their shots I just put the
poster in the kill filter and be done with it.

After all if they don't me and a few others to see their pictures and
admire and appreciate their efforts then that's okay with me.

I can't miss what I can't see.

Anyways.... Good to see your back.

[Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]]

Clairbear wrote:

> shiver > wrote in news:120620070542082877%
> :
>
>
>>>Andrew-S <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I> wrote:
>>
>>>I strongly suspect that the vast majority of PC
>>>users, have a similar opinion, whether they admit it or not...
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>And then lets not forget about those much maligned minority users
>>who happen to like the gasp.............. MACINTOSH.
>>
>>
>>>>Why not get a newsreader like xnews
>>
>>Because it won't work on a MACINTOSH.
>>
>
>
> I am sure somewhere there is a search engine that will work on macs if you
> search for it Besides if you can afford a Mac you can surely spring for a
> cheap PC for internet use and free up your mac to do what it does best.


I have been using the newsreader feature of Netscape/Mozilla without
problems for years. Of course, my ISP has one of the best newsfeeds in
the biz and regarding yenc, I just filter it out. No big loss...

JT

[Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]]

shiver wrote:


snip



>
> In my case ( with my Macintosh ) I use an old operating system and
> older software.
>
> All of these new Mac browsers and newsreaders will not work with my
> system.
>
> I know I'm behind the times but there you go.
>
> I ask politely if they could post in a normal fashion but if they say
> no then since I will never ever get to see their shots I just put the
> poster in the kill filter and be done with it.
>
> After all if they don't me and a few others to see their pictures and
> admire and appreciate their efforts then that's okay with me.
>
> I can't miss what I can't see.
>
> Anyways.... Good to see your back.


I was a holdout using OS 9 until succumbing around the first of the year
with Panther on my G4.

Now that I look back, I wish I would have switched a couple of years ago...

JT

[Andrew-S]

Shiver,
To be honest I never really left, although a few months ago a tale went out
about my apparent death. Happily apart from 30lbs too much around the
middle, I am reasonable okay.... However my shooting and posting situation
has changed rather dramaticaly. These days though I still work in pro photo
retail, I work on the side in a volounteer capacity with several police
department's aviation sections, additionaly my tax information is on file
with several airlines. I actaully have 3 major shoots scheduled at the end
of the month and early into July. Of course when this happens I go into
hyper time frenzy mode. As in everybody wants the shots, and everybody
wants it now all the while my manager in my real job is looking darkly at me
and hell even the cats are trying to avoid me.

Attached is an example from last year...

I was in the back taking the pictures of course.

Andrew








"shiver" > wrote in message
...
>> Andrew-S <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I> wrote:
>
>> when I post an image I want as many people as possible to see it.
>
> Well Andrew it's very good to see you back.
>
> I thought you had gone forever.
>
> Your comments above are hitting the nail squarly on the head.
>
> I'm amazed in some of the other groups where the posters insists that
> you march to their drum or else.
>
> In my case ( with my Macintosh ) I use an old operating system and
> older software.
>
> All of these new Mac browsers and newsreaders will not work with my
> system.
>
> I know I'm behind the times but there you go.
>
> I ask politely if they could post in a normal fashion but if they say
> no then since I will never ever get to see their shots I just put the
> poster in the kill filter and be done with it.
>
> After all if they don't me and a few others to see their pictures and
> admire and appreciate their efforts then that's okay with me.
>
> I can't miss what I can't see.
>
> Anyways.... Good to see your back.

[Clairbear]

"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
wrote in :

> The video capabilities with no disrespect intended don't do a thing
> for me... I am a photographer so the basic CS3 should be more than
> sufficient. I should also mention that I am going to be buying the CS3
> upgrade for the PC and the full version for the Mac. Aperture will of
> course only be for the Mac. After these are done I have every
> intention of buying a new PC (in the fall) and a new G5 (around
> Christmas or next year).
>
> Andrew
>
> "Clairbear" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
>> wrote in :
>>
>>> Shiver,
>>> You are absolutely correct however though I do have a Mac as well.
>>> I have never tried to access the Newsgroups on my Mac. Funnily
>>> enough these days it seems as if I have to buy every software
>>> package twice. One for my two PCs (Laptop and desktop) and one for
>>> the Mac. My next two purchases are actually going to be for the
>>> Mac; CS3 and Aperture..
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Which version of CS3 are you getting I will be getting the video
>> production package upgradeas soon as it is available my self. but
>> here again why not get xnews for you PC It's free and easier to use
>> than MS OE
>
>
>

If you do a lot of photo work you may wanyt to check out Adobe Lightroom
although if apeture is as good as they say you might not need it.+

[Andrew-S]

Thanks but I already have two copies of Adobe Lightroom and as well as two
copies of iView MediaPro...
Aperture is highly redundant to what I already have, however on the Mac
Platform it seems to be even better than Lightroom for massive batch
processing. In theory if I don't get zapped by anymore car repairs I will
be buying a copy of it in the Fall...

Andrew




"Clairbear" > wrote in message
...
> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
> wrote in :
>
>> The video capabilities with no disrespect intended don't do a thing
>> for me... I am a photographer so the basic CS3 should be more than
>> sufficient. I should also mention that I am going to be buying the CS3
>> upgrade for the PC and the full version for the Mac. Aperture will of
>> course only be for the Mac. After these are done I have every
>> intention of buying a new PC (in the fall) and a new G5 (around
>> Christmas or next year).
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> "Clairbear" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
>>> wrote in :
>>>
>>>> Shiver,
>>>> You are absolutely correct however though I do have a Mac as well.
>>>> I have never tried to access the Newsgroups on my Mac. Funnily
>>>> enough these days it seems as if I have to buy every software
>>>> package twice. One for my two PCs (Laptop and desktop) and one for
>>>> the Mac. My next two purchases are actually going to be for the
>>>> Mac; CS3 and Aperture..
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which version of CS3 are you getting I will be getting the video
>>> production package upgradeas soon as it is available my self. but
>>> here again why not get xnews for you PC It's free and easier to use
>>> than MS OE
>>
>>
>>
>
> If you do a lot of photo work you may wanyt to check out Adobe Lightroom
> although if apeture is as good as they say you might not need it.+

[No Name]

"Paul Elliot" > wrote in message
. net...
>Snip
> The big issue that I have with Yenc is the very high error rate and
> corruption of images.

Yes! yEnc eliminates redundancy from files, and makes every bit vitally
important. One bit that goes wrong can often screw up the whole picture,
whereas one wrong bit in a UUE post might just change one pixel to a
slightly different shade and not be noticed. That is why, in newsgroups that
normally use yEnc (for huge posts where it is appropriate and welcomed) it
is common to include par2 files (Quickpar) which can error check and correct
errors. Posting, and D/Ling whole, almost DVD quality, movies is a whole
different ball game from posting, and D/Ling a little text and a few
pictures, and requires a drastic change in equipment and techniques.