P-3C Orion In War On Terror

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According to:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a7269a0cd-0c18-4638-b904-2320885a22dd

The P-3C is proving unexpectedly useful in overland operations in Iraq
and Afghanistan.


Fun fact:

The reason that maritime patrol aircraft (including the new P-8A) have
internal weapon bays is that the
torpedo fuel freezes or congeals at altitude.

[W. D. Allen]

Finally - something about Naval aviation in this newsgroup!

WDA

end

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> According to:
>
> http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a7269a0cd-0c18-4638-b904-2320885a22dd
>
> The P-3C is proving unexpectedly useful in overland operations in Iraq
> and Afghanistan.
>
>
> Fun fact:
>
> The reason that maritime patrol aircraft (including the new P-8A) have
> internal weapon bays is that the
> torpedo fuel freezes or congeals at altitude.
>

[Don McIntyre]

On Jun 15, 11:40 pm, wrote:
> According to:
>
> http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController...
>
> The P-3C is proving unexpectedly useful in overland operations in Iraq
> and Afghanistan.
>
> Fun fact:
>
> The reason that maritime patrol aircraft (including the new P-8A) have
> internal weapon bays is that the
> torpedo fuel freezes or congeals at altitude.


And they (the bomb bay on P-3s) are heated, too. Of course I have NO
idea how warm they are...

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Some P-3's have also been fitted with a JSTARS-type Radar system:

http://aviationweek.typepad.com/ares/2007/05/notquitesecret_.html

[Harry Andreas]

In article om>,
wrote:

> Some P-3's have also been fitted with a JSTARS-type Radar system:
>
> http://aviationweek.typepad.com/ares/2007/05/notquitesecret_.html

The article mentioned above is incorrect: the radar in question, the
AN/APY-10 is NOT an AESA antenna.

The APY-10 is a deravitive of the APS-137, both use a parabolic dish.

JSTARS is a passive ESA system.

Harry

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

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On Jun 18, 11:33 am, (Harry Andreas) wrote:
> In article om>,
>
> wrote:
> > Some P-3's have also been fitted with a JSTARS-type Radar system:
>
> >http://aviationweek.typepad.com/ares/2007/05/notquitesecret_.html
>
> The article mentioned above is incorrect: the radar in question, the
> AN/APY-10 is NOT an AESA antenna.
>
> The APY-10 is a deravitive of the APS-137, both use a parabolic dish.
>
> JSTARS is a passive ESA system.
>
> Harry
>
> --
> Harry Andreas
> Engineering raconteur

I thought the APs-137 sat in the nose of the P-3, while the APY-10 is
the
improved version slated for the P-8.

The LSRS on the other hand, is a different radar that uses the large
"canoe"
radome mounted under the P-3's fuselage.

http://aviationweek.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/17/p2_lsrs3.jpg

At least that's my understanding of the situation. If I'm wrong, feel
free
to correct me.

[Harry Andreas]

In article om>,
wrote:

> On Jun 18, 11:33 am, (Harry Andreas) wrote:
> > In article om>,
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Some P-3's have also been fitted with a JSTARS-type Radar system:
> >
> > >http://aviationweek.typepad.com/ares/2007/05/notquitesecret_.html
> >
> > The article mentioned above is incorrect: the radar in question, the
> > AN/APY-10 is NOT an AESA antenna.
> >
> > The APY-10 is a deravitive of the APS-137, both use a parabolic dish.
> >
> > JSTARS is a passive ESA system.
> >
> > Harry
> >
> > --
> > Harry Andreas
> > Engineering raconteur
>
> I thought the APs-137 sat in the nose of the P-3, while the APY-10 is
> the
> improved version slated for the P-8.
>
> The LSRS on the other hand, is a different radar that uses the large
> "canoe"
> radome mounted under the P-3's fuselage.
>
> http://aviationweek.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/17/p2_lsrs3.jpg
>
> At least that's my understanding of the situation. If I'm wrong, feel
> free to correct me.

You might be right. I may have looked at the wrong website.

cheers

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

[Tom Clarke]

There's something kind of fishy with that photo! Note how gooned up the
nose radome is! Pretty lousy job with Adobe!

Tom, with a few (5K+) hours in the mighty Orion.

"Harry Andreas" > wrote in message
...
> In article om>,
> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 18, 11:33 am, (Harry Andreas) wrote:
>> > In article om>,
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > > Some P-3's have also been fitted with a JSTARS-type Radar system:
>> >
>> > >http://aviationweek.typepad.com/ares/2007/05/notquitesecret_.html
>> >
>> > The article mentioned above is incorrect: the radar in question, the
>> > AN/APY-10 is NOT an AESA antenna.
>> >
>> > The APY-10 is a deravitive of the APS-137, both use a parabolic dish.
>> >
>> > JSTARS is a passive ESA system.
>> >
>> > Harry
>> >
>> > --
>> > Harry Andreas
>> > Engineering raconteur
>>
>> I thought the APs-137 sat in the nose of the P-3, while the APY-10 is
>> the
>> improved version slated for the P-8.
>>
>> The LSRS on the other hand, is a different radar that uses the large
>> "canoe"
>> radome mounted under the P-3's fuselage.
>>
>> http://aviationweek.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/17/p2_lsrs3.jpg
>>
>> At least that's my understanding of the situation. If I'm wrong, feel
>> free to correct me.
>
> You might be right. I may have looked at the wrong website.
>
> cheers
>
> --
> Harry Andreas
> Engineering raconteur

[fudog50[_2_]]

Tom,

Follow the P-3 Orion Research Group link in the Aviation Week article.

Then hit the "sneaky" button.

Everything you wanted to know about the P-3 and LSRS and Dallas is on
there.

They also have better pictures of the A/C with the nose radome
lightning strike.

Also they talk about the LSRS being used in theater in the mid east.

Best P-3 website on the net, these guys from Netherlands reall did a
great job.

Cheers!

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:27:04 -0400, "Tom Clarke"

> wrote:

>There's something kind of fishy with that photo! Note how gooned up the
>nose radome is! Pretty lousy job with Adobe!
>
>Tom, with a few (5K+) hours in the mighty Orion.
>
>"Harry Andreas" > wrote in message
...
>> In article om>,
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 18, 11:33 am, (Harry Andreas) wrote:
>>> > In article om>,
>>> >
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > Some P-3's have also been fitted with a JSTARS-type Radar system:
>>> >
>>> > >http://aviationweek.typepad.com/ares/2007/05/notquitesecret_.html
>>> >
>>> > The article mentioned above is incorrect: the radar in question, the
>>> > AN/APY-10 is NOT an AESA antenna.
>>> >
>>> > The APY-10 is a deravitive of the APS-137, both use a parabolic dish.
>>> >
>>> > JSTARS is a passive ESA system.
>>> >
>>> > Harry
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Harry Andreas
>>> > Engineering raconteur
>>>
>>> I thought the APs-137 sat in the nose of the P-3, while the APY-10 is
>>> the
>>> improved version slated for the P-8.
>>>
>>> The LSRS on the other hand, is a different radar that uses the large
>>> "canoe"
>>> radome mounted under the P-3's fuselage.
>>>
>>> http://aviationweek.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/17/p2_lsrs3.jpg
>>>
>>> At least that's my understanding of the situation. If I'm wrong, feel
>>> free to correct me.
>>
>> You might be right. I may have looked at the wrong website.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> --
>> Harry Andreas
>> Engineering raconteur
>

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On Jun 18, 7:27 pm, "Tom Clarke" > wrote:
> There's something kind of fishy with that photo! Note how gooned up the
> nose radome is! Pretty lousy job with Adobe!
>
> Tom, with a few (5K+) hours in the mighty Orion.


Hope they didn't smack into another Chinese fighter. :)

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On Jun 18, 8:34 pm, fudog50 <> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Follow the P-3 Orion Research Group link in the Aviation Week article.
>
> Then hit the "sneaky" button.
>
> Everything you wanted to know about the P-3 and LSRS and Dallas is on
> there.
>
> They also have better pictures of the A/C with the nose radome
> lightning strike.
>
> Also they talk about the LSRS being used in theater in the mid east.
>
> Best P-3 website on the net, these guys from Netherlands reall did a
> great job.
>
> Cheers!

Is this the site you're talking about?:

http://home.wxs.nl/~p3orion/sneaky.html

[Dave[_6_]]

"Tom Clarke" > wrote in
news:4fqdnY7y1LGcourbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@metrocastcab levision.com:

> There's something kind of fishy with that photo! Note how gooned up the
> nose radome is! Pretty lousy job with Adobe!

That looks worse than the hail damaged VP-19 radome I changed in the early
70s in B'wick.

Dave in San Diego

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On Jun 15, 10:40 pm, wrote:
> According to:
>
> http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController...
>
> The P-3C is proving unexpectedly useful in overland operations in Iraq
> and Afghanistan.



Probably a lot of Iraqi aircraft to track and Iraqi subs to attack!

LOL!!!




>
> Fun fact:
>
> The reason that maritime patrol aircraft (including the new P-8A) have
> internal weapon bays is that the
> torpedo fuel freezes or congeals at altitude.

[Jeb]

On Jun 20, 8:07 pm, wrote:
> On Jun 15, 10:40 pm, wrote:
>
> > According to:
>
> >http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController...
>
> > The P-3C is proving unexpectedly useful in overland operations in Iraq
> > and Afghanistan.
>
> Probably a lot of Iraqi aircraft to track and Iraqi subs to attack!
>
> LOL!!!

Har har har...

Yeah, a high-endurance airframe with tons of room for avionics and
sensors wouldn't be much good over there. Nope, not much good at all.

[Dave[_6_]]

Jeb > wrote in news:1182434976.484767.193080
@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 20, 8:07 pm, wrote:
>> On Jun 15, 10:40 pm, wrote:
>>
>> > According to:
>>
>> >http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?
plckController...
>>
>> > The P-3C is proving unexpectedly useful in overland operations in Iraq
>> > and Afghanistan.
>>
>> Probably a lot of Iraqi aircraft to track and Iraqi subs to attack!
>>
>> LOL!!!
>
> Har har har...
>
> Yeah, a high-endurance airframe with tons of room for avionics and
> sensors wouldn't be much good over there. Nope, not much good at all.

Oh, and don't forget the tons of avionics and sensors that fit into that
tons of room!

Dave in San Diego