article: EVergreen hoping to score Shuttle

[Gatt]

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/opb/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1098393

MCMINNVILLE, OR 2007-06-14

As anyone who has visited 'The Spruce Goose' recently can tell you, the
Evergreen Aviation Museum is in the middle of a massive expansion. Having
opened in 2001 with just four planes, the collection now numbers more than
80. And, as Kristian Foden-Vencil reports, there's a move afoot to try and
bring a space shuttle to the small town of McMinnville.

[NW_Pilot]

"Gatt" > wrote in message
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> http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/opb/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1098393
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> MCMINNVILLE, OR 2007-06-14
>
> As anyone who has visited 'The Spruce Goose' recently can tell you, the
> Evergreen Aviation Museum is in the middle of a massive expansion. Having
> opened in 2001 with just four planes, the collection now numbers more than
> 80. And, as Kristian Foden-Vencil reports, there's a move afoot to try and
> bring a space shuttle to the small town of McMinnville.
>

What they have a extra space shuttle just laying around some place?

[Gig 601XL Builder]

NW_Pilot wrote:
> "Gatt" > wrote in message
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>> http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/opb/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1098393
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>> MCMINNVILLE, OR 2007-06-14
>>
>> As anyone who has visited 'The Spruce Goose' recently can tell you,
>> the Evergreen Aviation Museum is in the middle of a massive
>> expansion. Having opened in 2001 with just four planes, the
>> collection now numbers more than 80. And, as Kristian Foden-Vencil
>> reports, there's a move afoot to try and bring a space shuttle to
>> the small town of McMinnville.
>
> What they have a extra space shuttle just laying around some place?

They are going to retire all of them soon.

[Jim Logajan]

"NW_Pilot" > wrote:
> What they have a extra space shuttle just laying around some place?

Plans are to retire all the space shuttles by 2010. So 3 will be available
for show-and-tell in a few years. The National Air and Space Museum already
has the Enterprise....

[Gatt]

"NW_Pilot" > wrote in message
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>> As anyone who has visited 'The Spruce Goose' recently can tell you, the
>> Evergreen Aviation Museum is in the middle of a massive expansion. Having
>> opened in 2001 with just four planes, the collection now numbers more
>> than 80. And, as Kristian Foden-Vencil reports, there's a move afoot to
>> try and bring a space shuttle to the small town of McMinnville.
>>
> What they have a extra space shuttle just laying around some place?

Howdy! Enjoying the R 'n' R?

Apparently they might have a shuttle or two lying around soon.

I hope if they bring it to McMinnville, it's a good flying day. That would
make for some awesome aerial shots; a Space Shuttle cruising the old highway
through farmland and wine country. Never happen, I bet...what kind of air
restrictions do you suppose they'd place on a slowly-moving object like
that?
They'll have to do something or every small airplane in the northwest will
be swarming around over it.

-c

[john smith[_2_]]

In article >,
"Gatt" > wrote:
> Apparently they might have a shuttle or two lying around soon.
>
> I hope if they bring it to McMinnville, it's a good flying day. That would
> make for some awesome aerial shots; a Space Shuttle cruising the old highway
> through farmland and wine country. Never happen, I bet...what kind of air
> restrictions do you suppose they'd place on a slowly-moving object like
> that?
> They'll have to do something or every small airplane in the northwest will
> be swarming around over it.

Why truck'em?
Fly them to their final destinations on their special NASA 747.
The 747 won't have any further use. It may go to the Udvar-Hazy after it
delivers the shuttles to various museums around the world.

[Gatt]

"john smith" > wrote in message
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>> They'll have to do something or every small airplane in the northwest
>> will
>> be swarming around over it.
>
> Why truck'em?
> Fly them to their final destinations on their special NASA 747.
> The 747 won't have any further use. It may go to the Udvar-Hazy after it
> delivers the shuttles to various museums around the world.


Could a 747 (bearing a Space Shuttle) on a 5420 x 150 ft runway with an
80,000lb weight bearing capacity? If so, I want to be there when it
happens...

-c

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:16:40 -0000, Jim Logajan > wrote:

>"NW_Pilot" > wrote:
>> What they have a extra space shuttle just laying around some place?
>
>Plans are to retire all the space shuttles by 2010. So 3 will be available
>for show-and-tell in a few years. The National Air and Space Museum already
>has the Enterprise....

....and will probably get one of the three remaining operational shuttles, too.
I'm guessing either Cape Canaveral or Houston will get another. It'll probably
depend on which party is in power in 2010, but my guess is that the last one
will probably go to either California or New York.

Now, the NASM *might* give up Enterprise, and the smaller museums might get to
try for it.

Ron Wanttaja

[John Clear]

In article >,
Gatt > wrote:
>
>Could a 747 (bearing a Space Shuttle) on a 5420 x 150 ft runway with an
>80,000lb weight bearing capacity? If so, I want to be there when it
>happens...

I don't know how much the shuttle impacts performance, but a 747
has been landed on a 5600ft x 50 ft runway. There are two SCA 747s,
so the one that delivers the shuttle can be left at the museum.

Video of the landing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap_nyRzEOMI

John

--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

[Ron Natalie]

Ron Wanttaja wrote:

> ...and will probably get one of the three remaining operational shuttles, too.

Probably not. They have no place to put it. The Enterprise already
takes up the bulk of the Space Hangar. The old storage building that
it was in has become inacessable due to the construction of the new
Dulles runway.

They could dump the Enterprise to take on of the others, but I would
doubt it. None of the remaining ones are as historically significant
as the Enterprise. If the Columbia was still around, maybe.

> I'm guessing either Cape Canaveral or Houston will get another.

My guess is that each of these will get one.

[Margy Natalie]

Ron Natalie wrote:
> Ron Wanttaja wrote:
>
>> ...and will probably get one of the three remaining operational
>> shuttles, too.
>
>
> Probably not. They have no place to put it. The Enterprise already
> takes up the bulk of the Space Hangar. The old storage building that
> it was in has become inacessable due to the construction of the new
> Dulles runway.
I think the building is accessable, just the side where the Connie was
is not.
>
> They could dump the Enterprise to take on of the others, but I would
> doubt it. None of the remaining ones are as historically significant
> as the Enterprise. If the Columbia was still around, maybe.
Last I heard the decision has not been made. I'll have to tell the
curator about the discussion. She'll get a kick out of it :-).
>
>> I'm guessing either Cape Canaveral or Houston will get another.
>
>
> My guess is that each of these will get one.