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Colin
June 30th 07, 01:52 AM
Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows, maybe
one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a vintage
bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view of
women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?

David Powell
June 30th 07, 01:59 AM
well maybe you best eat prunes to relieve yourself from your problem...


"Colin" > wrote in message
...
> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows, maybe
> one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a vintage
> bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view of
> women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
>
>

Peter Dohm
June 30th 07, 02:08 AM
That'll take a lot of prunes!

"David Powell" <davidpowell@comcast> wrote in message
. ..
> well maybe you best eat prunes to relieve yourself from your problem...
>
>
> "Colin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows,
maybe
> > one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
vintage
> > bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view of
> > women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
> >
> >
>
>

Colin
June 30th 07, 04:21 AM
And of course that's the intelligent, well thought out, response I was
expecting.

It's no wonder, that when Martina, the gay tennis player, was being
interviewed many years ago by the press and was asked by the press, "Are you
still gay" she turned to the male reporter and said "Are you still the only
other option I have".

Slowly but surely my friends, you who view women as objects, slowly but
surely your kind is dying off as evidenced by some of the other posts on
this subject. Evolution, it's a good thing, try it or be left playing with
your own stick alone.

"Peter Dohm" > wrote in message
...
> That'll take a lot of prunes!
>
> "David Powell" <davidpowell@comcast> wrote in message
> . ..
>> well maybe you best eat prunes to relieve yourself from your problem...
>>
>>
>> "Colin" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows,
> maybe
>> > one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
> vintage
>> > bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view of
>> > women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

redc1c4
June 30th 07, 07:13 AM
Colin wrote:
>
> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows, maybe
> one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a vintage
> bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view of
> women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?

here: drink this bottle and call us in the morning....*

those of us who have evolved realize that rape is about power, not sex.

redc1c4,
(*or better yet, don't bother. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

redc1c4
June 30th 07, 07:26 AM
Colin wrote:
>
> And of course that's the intelligent, well thought out, response I was
> expecting.
>
> It's no wonder, that when Martina, the gay tennis player, was being
> interviewed many years ago by the press and was asked by the press, "Are you
> still gay" she turned to the male reporter and said "Are you still the only
> other option I have".
>
> Slowly but surely my friends, you who view women as objects, slowly but
> surely your kind is dying off as evidenced by some of the other posts on
> this subject. Evolution, it's a good thing, try it or be left playing with
> your own stick alone.

you don't have issues, you have the entire collection, to include errata,
editor's notes, printer's proofs, staff meeting note pad doodles and the
office lunch order.

you *really* need to either take your meds, get into therapy, or at the
very least unsubscribe from Usenet. it's full of people who will tell you
to take your paranoid delusions, write them down completely on paper,
carefully fold them, and then, with much fanfare, shove them up your ass,
so you will at last be able to read them clearly.

redc1c4,
attached is a graphic, so even *you* can see what the problem is. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]
June 30th 07, 05:31 PM
Colin wrote:

> ... Evolution, it's a good thing, try it or be left playing with
> your own stick alone.
>

Uh, the human race has been DEvolving for the past forty or so years.

JT

stolarskin
June 30th 07, 05:38 PM
I'm still in disbelief over
the Martina being gay thing.

But, love the hanger queen posts.
BTW I've got 3 kids all girls, and still
like the hanger queens.
Most, if not all, of the posts
are very artsy and very wholesome.
The girls are cute, too.
Maybe someone should post
some really fat and disgusting looking
women, so the original complainer feels
better.

Colin
June 30th 07, 05:59 PM
"redc1c4" > wrote in message
...
> Colin wrote:
>>
>> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows, maybe
>> one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
>> vintage
>> bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view of
>> women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
>
> here: drink this bottle and call us in the morning....*
>
> those of us who have evolved realize that rape is about power, not sex.
>
> redc1c4,
> (*or better yet, don't bother. %-)
> --
> "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
> considerable watching."
>
> Army Officer's Guide

Who said anything about sex? Sad your mind put that out there.
Then again, it's just an example of your ignorance. So you just keep going
the way you are .. thinking its all about reducing women to breasts and an
orifice. Now that's a true reflection of power issues and abuse issues.

redc1c4
June 30th 07, 06:40 PM
Colin wrote:
>
> "redc1c4" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Colin wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows, maybe
> >> one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
> >> vintage
> >> bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view of
> >> women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
> >
> > here: drink this bottle and call us in the morning....*
> >
> > those of us who have evolved realize that rape is about power, not sex.
> >
> > redc1c4,
> > (*or better yet, don't bother. %-)
> > --
> > "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
> > considerable watching."
> >
> > Army Officer's Guide
>
> Who said anything about sex? Sad your mind put that out there.
> Then again, it's just an example of your ignorance. So you just keep going
> the way you are .. thinking its all about reducing women to breasts and an
> orifice. Now that's a true reflection of power issues and abuse issues.

you silly twit. you are the ignorant idiot who made a connection
between cheesecake photography and rape, thereby suggesting that this
art form can create an emotional response which leads directly to
sexual assault.

i simply pointed out that you were wrong.

get over yourself: we have.

redc1c4,
explaining the obvious, to the oblivious.
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

Colin
June 30th 07, 07:25 PM
It's so sad, yet not surprising that you just don't get it. It has nothing
to do with appearances but rather attitude. And why disbelief of
Martina??????




"stolarskin" > wrote in message
...
> I'm still in disbelief over
> the Martina being gay thing.
>
> But, love the hanger queen posts.
> BTW I've got 3 kids all girls, and still
> like the hanger queens.
> Most, if not all, of the posts
> are very artsy and very wholesome.
> The girls are cute, too.
> Maybe someone should post
> some really fat and disgusting looking
> women, so the original complainer feels
> better.
>
>

redc1c4
June 30th 07, 08:24 PM
Colin wrote:
>
> oh you very ignorant man. I never made the suggestion regarding sex and
> rape, it was your lower evolutionary brain which did the inferring.
>
> "redc1c4" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Colin wrote:
> >>
> >> "redc1c4" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Colin wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows,
> >> >> maybe
> >> >> one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
> >> >> vintage
> >> >> bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view
> >> >> of
> >> >> women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
> >> >
> >> > here: drink this bottle and call us in the morning....*
> >> >
> >> > those of us who have evolved realize that rape is about power, not sex.
> >> >
> >> > redc1c4,
> >> > (*or better yet, don't bother. %-)
> >> > --
> >> > "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
> >> > considerable watching."
> >> >
> >> > Army Officer's Guide
> >>
> >> Who said anything about sex? Sad your mind put that out there.
> >> Then again, it's just an example of your ignorance. So you just keep
> >> going
> >> the way you are .. thinking its all about reducing women to breasts and
> >> an
> >> orifice. Now that's a true reflection of power issues and abuse issues.
> >
> > you silly twit. you are the ignorant idiot who made a connection
> > between cheesecake photography and rape, thereby suggesting that this
> > art form can create an emotional response which leads directly to
> > sexual assault.
> >
> > i simply pointed out that you were wrong.
> >
> > get over yourself: we have.
> >
> > redc1c4,
> > explaining the obvious, to the oblivious.
> > --
> > "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
> > considerable watching."
> >
> > Army Officer's Guide

have you addressed this denial issue with your therapist, you top posting
moron, or do you have so many *other* issues that you simply haven't
gotten to it yet?

either way you're full of ****e. here's a picture of you trying to get your
position off the ground.

redc1c4,
who notes they always top post when they've lost the debate. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

redc1c4
June 30th 07, 08:28 PM
Colin wrote:
>
> Oh and by the way, the AMA and the APA have both now stated officially that
> there is a connection.
>
> "redc1c4" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Colin wrote:
> >>
> >> "redc1c4" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Colin wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows,
> >> >> maybe
> >> >> one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
> >> >> vintage
> >> >> bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view
> >> >> of
> >> >> women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
> >> >
> >> > here: drink this bottle and call us in the morning....*
> >> >
> >> > those of us who have evolved realize that rape is about power, not sex.
> >> >
> >> > redc1c4,
> >> > (*or better yet, don't bother. %-)
> >> > --
> >> > "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
> >> > considerable watching."
> >> >
> >> > Army Officer's Guide
> >>
> >> Who said anything about sex? Sad your mind put that out there.
> >> Then again, it's just an example of your ignorance. So you just keep
> >> going
> >> the way you are .. thinking its all about reducing women to breasts and
> >> an
> >> orifice. Now that's a true reflection of power issues and abuse issues.
> >
> > you silly twit. you are the ignorant idiot who made a connection
> > between cheesecake photography and rape, thereby suggesting that this
> > art form can create an emotional response which leads directly to
> > sexual assault.
> >
> > i simply pointed out that you were wrong.
> >
> > get over yourself: we have.
> >
> > redc1c4,
> > explaining the obvious, to the oblivious.

and neither organization is to be trusted, or taken very seriously, as
their opinions are *not* peer reviewed, but are simply political in nature.

IOW, they carry as much weight with rational people as your ravings do.

redc1c4,
of course, you can't differentiate between cheesecake & hard core pr0n. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

Colin
June 30th 07, 08:47 PM
oh you very ignorant man. I never made the suggestion regarding sex and
rape, it was your lower evolutionary brain which did the inferring.


"redc1c4" > wrote in message
...
> Colin wrote:
>>
>> "redc1c4" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Colin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows,
>> >> maybe
>> >> one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
>> >> vintage
>> >> bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view
>> >> of
>> >> women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
>> >
>> > here: drink this bottle and call us in the morning....*
>> >
>> > those of us who have evolved realize that rape is about power, not sex.
>> >
>> > redc1c4,
>> > (*or better yet, don't bother. %-)
>> > --
>> > "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
>> > considerable watching."
>> >
>> > Army Officer's Guide
>>
>> Who said anything about sex? Sad your mind put that out there.
>> Then again, it's just an example of your ignorance. So you just keep
>> going
>> the way you are .. thinking its all about reducing women to breasts and
>> an
>> orifice. Now that's a true reflection of power issues and abuse issues.
>
> you silly twit. you are the ignorant idiot who made a connection
> between cheesecake photography and rape, thereby suggesting that this
> art form can create an emotional response which leads directly to
> sexual assault.
>
> i simply pointed out that you were wrong.
>
> get over yourself: we have.
>
> redc1c4,
> explaining the obvious, to the oblivious.
> --
> "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
> considerable watching."
>
> Army Officer's Guide

Colin
June 30th 07, 08:51 PM
Oh and by the way, the AMA and the APA have both now stated officially that
there is a connection.

"redc1c4" > wrote in message
...
> Colin wrote:
>>
>> "redc1c4" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Colin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows,
>> >> maybe
>> >> one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
>> >> vintage
>> >> bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view
>> >> of
>> >> women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
>> >
>> > here: drink this bottle and call us in the morning....*
>> >
>> > those of us who have evolved realize that rape is about power, not sex.
>> >
>> > redc1c4,
>> > (*or better yet, don't bother. %-)
>> > --
>> > "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
>> > considerable watching."
>> >
>> > Army Officer's Guide
>>
>> Who said anything about sex? Sad your mind put that out there.
>> Then again, it's just an example of your ignorance. So you just keep
>> going
>> the way you are .. thinking its all about reducing women to breasts and
>> an
>> orifice. Now that's a true reflection of power issues and abuse issues.
>
> you silly twit. you are the ignorant idiot who made a connection
> between cheesecake photography and rape, thereby suggesting that this
> art form can create an emotional response which leads directly to
> sexual assault.
>
> i simply pointed out that you were wrong.
>
> get over yourself: we have.
>
> redc1c4,
> explaining the obvious, to the oblivious.
> --
> "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
> considerable watching."
>
> Army Officer's Guide

Jules
June 30th 07, 10:53 PM
This is a world wide forum.
When you consider the various was nudity is treated, and reacted to, it
is understandable, the reactions of some.
Everybody has different standards of acceptability.

But this is a world wide forum.
And I fully expect it to appear as such.



Peter Dohm wrote:
> That'll take a lot of prunes!
>
> "David Powell" <davidpowell@comcast> wrote in message
> . ..
>
>>well maybe you best eat prunes to relieve yourself from your problem...
>>
>>
>>"Colin" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows,
>
> maybe
>
>>>one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to a
>
> vintage
>
>>>bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have this view of
>>>women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

redc1c4
June 30th 07, 11:55 PM
Jules wrote:
>
> This is a world wide forum.
> When you consider the various was nudity is treated, and reacted to, it
> is understandable, the reactions of some.
> Everybody has different standards of acceptability.
>
> But this is a world wide forum.
> And I fully expect it to appear as such.

tit's good to keep an open mind when looking at the issue......

redc1c4,
(and quite possibly the breast way to do so. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

stolarskin
July 1st 07, 12:15 AM
That last one with the picture is way too funny, LOL.
Anyhow Colin, I am trying to come up with a serious
reply as to why I didn't think Martina was really gay
Or at least not completely gay.

As far as surveys and assessments are concerned.
AMA, APA or whatever, ussually deal with generalizations and
so on.
So without looking at the study, I won't comment.

Ron
July 1st 07, 12:45 AM
"Colin" > wrote in message
...
>
> Slowly but surely my friends, you who view women as objects, slowly but
> surely your kind is dying off as evidenced by some of the other posts on
> this subject. Evolution, it's a good thing, try it or be left playing
> with your own stick alone.
>
Do not mistake a tiny layer of civilisation for evolution. And even if it
is: that kind will surely die off, as there will be no females to fall for
the 'kinder, gentler, subtler" approach. Men love to watch, women love to be
watched. Thats the way it always has been, that's the way it is today, and
that's the way it'll always be.

Ron
--
Non urinat in ventum

The Visitor
July 1st 07, 01:27 AM
If true....

"Gay", it's such a confining term.
Perhaps she just doesn't hold any gender bias (sex discrimination) with
whom she is willing to get it on with.

I myself am not so openminded.





stolarskin wrote:
> That last one with the picture is way too funny, LOL.
> Anyhow Colin, I am trying to come up with a serious
> reply as to why I didn't think Martina was really gay
> Or at least not completely gay.
>
> As far as surveys and assessments are concerned.
> AMA, APA or whatever, ussually deal with generalizations and
> so on.
> So without looking at the study, I won't comment.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Al Denelsbeck
July 1st 07, 02:13 PM
"Colin" > wrote in
:

> Yes it been a long time practice to see woman this way. Who knows,
> maybe one day one of us will see one of our daughters standing next to
> a vintage bird and feel the same. As long as well have men who have
> this view of women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?


Which is about the same as equating going to a zoo with bestiality.

Armchair psychologists are always so amusing. Even better, you can
tell the amount of time spent thinking over the posts by the number of
typos.


- Al.

--
To reply, insert dash in address to separate G and I in the domain

stolarskin
July 1st 07, 10:57 PM
As long as well have men who have
this view of women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?

Offending line /I\

And, a little digging to find out something juicy about the AMA.
Didn't read the whole article, but the jist of it is
that the AMA has done everything it can,
to squash a "socialized " medical plan,
for those less fortunate citizens of the US.

redc1c4
July 2nd 07, 01:33 AM
stolarskin wrote:
>
> As long as well have men who have
> this view of women why should we be shocked when we hear or rapes?
>
> Offending line /I\
>
> And, a little digging to find out something juicy about the AMA.
> Didn't read the whole article, but the jist of it is
> that the AMA has done everything it can,
> to squash a "socialized " medical plan,
> for those less fortunate citizens of the US.

which is them accidentally doing a good thing for the wrong reasons.

redc1c4,
(not that we want to get started on *that* subject...... %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."

Army Officer's Guide

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