The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL [Archive]

Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter

July 4th 07, 04:35 AM

The United States Corps of Chaplains (USCOC) is a volunteer, non-sectarian
Christian, charitable, non-profit 501(c)3 public service organization,
active in community ministry to everyone, but with special emphasis on aid
to active duty military members, veterans, and their family members. The
USCOC is also active in disaster response activities, providing a needed
ministerial presence for victims and responders.

The USCOC is made up of former and retired military personnel and other
patriotic, public spirited, Christian citizens. Membership is open to
Christian Clergy (Ministers) and Laity (non-ordained Christians), Veterans
and Non-Veterans alike.

Members of the USCOC wear distinctive uniforms when in service for easy
identification. The USCOC also uses ranks and unit designations similar to
those of the U.S. Army but the United States Corps of Chaplains is not an
entity of, nor endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the
United States government,

USCOC Chaplains perform religious support in the communities, by preaching,
teaching, and conducting religious services, in accordance with the tenets
and rules of their Christian tradition, the principles of their faith, and
the dictates of conscience. Chaplain Assistants and Ministry Teams assist
the Chaplains in providing religious support to the community. This
religious support includes providing and/or performing worship services,
rites, sacraments, ordinances, pastoral and spiritual care and religious
education to:

NURTURE THE LIVING, CARE FOR THE DYING, HONOR THE DEAD.

Our Mission is to:

"GLORIFY GOD, PROMOTE PATRIOTISM,
HONOR OUR VETERANS, MINISTER TO ALL."

--
Chappie

Billzz

July 4th 07, 04:59 AM

"Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter" > wrote in message
. ..
> The United States Corps of Chaplains (USCOC) is a volunteer, non-sectarian
> Christian, charitable, non-profit 501(c)3 public service organization,
> active in community ministry to everyone, but with special emphasis on aid
> to active duty military members, veterans, and their family members. The
> USCOC is also active in disaster response activities, providing a needed
> ministerial presence for victims and responders.
>
> The USCOC is made up of former and retired military personnel and other
> patriotic, public spirited, Christian citizens. Membership is open to
> Christian Clergy (Ministers) and Laity (non-ordained Christians), Veterans
> and Non-Veterans alike.
>
> Members of the USCOC wear distinctive uniforms when in service for easy
> identification. The USCOC also uses ranks and unit designations similar to
> those of the U.S. Army but the United States Corps of Chaplains is not an
> entity of, nor endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the
> United States government,
>
> USCOC Chaplains perform religious support in the communities, by
> preaching, teaching, and conducting religious services, in accordance with
> the tenets and rules of their Christian tradition, the principles of their
> faith, and the dictates of conscience. Chaplain Assistants and Ministry
> Teams assist the Chaplains in providing religious support to the
> community. This religious support includes providing and/or performing
> worship services, rites, sacraments, ordinances, pastoral and spiritual
> care and religious education to:
>
> NURTURE THE LIVING, CARE FOR THE DYING, HONOR THE DEAD.
>
> Our Mission is to:
>
> "GLORIFY GOD, PROMOTE PATRIOTISM,
> HONOR OUR VETERANS, MINISTER TO ALL."
>
> --
> Chappie

I'm afraid to ask, but where did you receive your military basic, advanced,
officer, chaplain training? And what army posts did you serve at?

Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter

July 4th 07, 05:33 AM

I am retired US Air Force and Marine Corps (1977-1994) and was a Chaplain's
Assistant during Desert Shield/Storm/Calm. My "advanced" training as a
Chaplain has come "OJT" (on-the-job training) during several military
memorial services, weddings, and during several natural disasters as well as
the crash of flight 5191 in Lexington, KY not long ago. Ordained by God to
help out where I am needed.

--
Chappie
"Billzz" > wrote in message
...
> "Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> The United States Corps of Chaplains (USCOC) is a volunteer,
>> non-sectarian Christian, charitable, non-profit 501(c)3 public service
>> organization, active in community ministry to everyone, but with special
>> emphasis on aid to active duty military members, veterans, and their
>> family members. The USCOC is also active in disaster response activities,
>> providing a needed ministerial presence for victims and responders.
>>
>> The USCOC is made up of former and retired military personnel and other
>> patriotic, public spirited, Christian citizens. Membership is open to
>> Christian Clergy (Ministers) and Laity (non-ordained Christians),
>> Veterans and Non-Veterans alike.
>>
>> Members of the USCOC wear distinctive uniforms when in service for easy
>> identification. The USCOC also uses ranks and unit designations similar
>> to those of the U.S. Army but the United States Corps of Chaplains is not
>> an entity of, nor endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the
>> United States government,
>>
>> USCOC Chaplains perform religious support in the communities, by
>> preaching, teaching, and conducting religious services, in accordance
>> with the tenets and rules of their Christian tradition, the principles of
>> their faith, and the dictates of conscience. Chaplain Assistants and
>> Ministry Teams assist the Chaplains in providing religious support to the
>> community. This religious support includes providing and/or performing
>> worship services, rites, sacraments, ordinances, pastoral and spiritual
>> care and religious education to:
>>
>> NURTURE THE LIVING, CARE FOR THE DYING, HONOR THE DEAD.
>>
>> Our Mission is to:
>>
>> "GLORIFY GOD, PROMOTE PATRIOTISM,
>> HONOR OUR VETERANS, MINISTER TO ALL."
>>
>> --
>> Chappie
>
> I'm afraid to ask, but where did you receive your military basic,
> advanced, officer, chaplain training? And what army posts did you serve
> at?
>

Mike, who else?

July 4th 07, 06:41 AM

Looks good Chappie.
Keep up the great work looking after the troops overseas and at home.

Mike

Neil Hoskins

July 4th 07, 11:26 AM

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
> > wrote:
>
>>The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>
>>--
>>Chappie
>
> "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor
> endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States
> government."
>
> It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion...
>

Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty
much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican church
is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and National
Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer.

SWIGGY

July 4th 07, 01:41 PM

Congradulations, Chappie... err... Col. Chappie.

Question: you said that USCOC was a Christian based organization. What do
non-christian faiths (eg: jewish or even muslim) do for cleric support when
in a war zone?

You do a much needed service for our enlisted: while you may find an atheist
in a foxhole, more likely you will find a solider and his faith.
--
SWIGGY

Check out my vids at

http://home.comcast.net/~swiggy/index.html

"Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter" > wrote in message
.. .
> The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>
> --
> Chappie
>
> --
> Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter
> National Recruiting Coordinator
> Headquarters (HQ) Division
> United States Corps of Chaplains
> www.uscochq.com
>
>
>

JRW

July 4th 07, 03:54 PM

Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter wrote:
> The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>
>
lol, colored name tag and patches however sort of defeat the CAMMO
effect......
better take DUCKING.101 this term...ha ha

JRW

JRW

July 4th 07, 03:59 PM

You go Chappie any service in the war effort is appreciated.

I'm sure that there are plenty the benefit from the services, endorsed
or not.

Those that wish not to partake may also do so.

Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter wrote:
> The United States Corps of Chaplains (USCOC) is a volunteer, non-sectarian
> Christian, charitable, non-profit 501(c)3 public service organization,
> active in community ministry to everyone, but with special emphasis on aid
> to active duty military members, veterans, and their family members. The
> USCOC is also active in disaster response activities, providing a needed
> ministerial presence for victims and responders.
>
> The USCOC is made up of former and retired military personnel and other
> patriotic, public spirited, Christian citizens. Membership is open to
> Christian Clergy (Ministers) and Laity (non-ordained Christians), Veterans
> and Non-Veterans alike.
>
> Members of the USCOC wear distinctive uniforms when in service for easy
> identification. The USCOC also uses ranks and unit designations similar to
> those of the U.S. Army but the United States Corps of Chaplains is not an
> entity of, nor endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the
> United States government,
>
> USCOC Chaplains perform religious support in the communities, by preaching,
> teaching, and conducting religious services, in accordance with the tenets
> and rules of their Christian tradition, the principles of their faith, and
> the dictates of conscience. Chaplain Assistants and Ministry Teams assist
> the Chaplains in providing religious support to the community. This
> religious support includes providing and/or performing worship services,
> rites, sacraments, ordinances, pastoral and spiritual care and religious
> education to:
>
> NURTURE THE LIVING, CARE FOR THE DYING, HONOR THE DEAD.
>
> Our Mission is to:
>
> "GLORIFY GOD, PROMOTE PATRIOTISM,
> HONOR OUR VETERANS, MINISTER TO ALL."
>

SWIGGY

July 4th 07, 05:29 PM

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:26:37 +0100, "Neil Hoskins"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chappie
>>>
>>> "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor
>>> endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States
>>> government."
>>>
>>> It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion...
>>>
>>
>>Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty
>>much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican
>>church
>>is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and
>>National
>>Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer.
>
> Military services, Veterans Administration, and probably Public Health
> Service "real" chaplains are paid by the U.S. government.
> I have no idea how it is justified.

They feed you meds as food for your health.
They feed you food as food for your body.
They feed you knowledge as food for your intellegence.
They feed you spiritual comfort as food for your soul.

It's a smorgasboard. Take what ya want. If ya don't like the way the
spiritual food is prepared, you don't have to partake. Just because you do
not, does not mean that those that enjoy and relish it should be denied.

--
SWIGGY

Check out my vids at

http://home.comcast.net/~swiggy/index.html

Billzz

July 4th 07, 05:34 PM

"Neil Hoskins" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chappie
>>
>> "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor
>> endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States
>> government."
>>
>> It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion...
>>
>
> Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty
> much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican
> church is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and
> National Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer.

Real chaplains in the US Armed forces are military officers paid by the
branch of service. I'm afraid "Colonel Potter" is not a real colonel with a
commission signed by the secretary of any US military branch. He alludes to
being an enlisted chaplain's assistant, and now has joined some organization
and assumed some position. In twenty-six years in the US Army, from private
to colonel, I have never heard of this organization.

Tankfixer

July 4th 07, 07:41 PM

In article >,
mumbled
> The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>

InDUHvidual in the photo is a civilian.....

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Andrew Chaplin

July 4th 07, 08:17 PM

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:29:28 -0400, "SWIGGY"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:26:37 +0100, "Neil Hoskins"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Chappie
>>>>>
>>>>> "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor
>>>>> endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States
>>>>> government."
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty
>>>>much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican
>>>>church
>>>>is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and
>>>>National
>>>>Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer.
>>>
>>> Military services, Veterans Administration, and probably Public Health
>>> Service "real" chaplains are paid by the U.S. government.
>>> I have no idea how it is justified.
>>
>>They feed you meds as food for your health.
>>They feed you food as food for your body.
>>They feed you knowledge as food for your intellegence.
>>They feed you spiritual comfort as food for your soul.
>>
>>It's a smorgasboard. Take what ya want. If ya don't like the way the
>>spiritual food is prepared, you don't have to partake. Just because you do
>>not, does not mean that those that enjoy and relish it should be denied.
>
> At tax payer expense?

The chaplains are an effective way for a commander to gauge morale. Chaplains
have wider access across the ranks than even the medical officers. They are
useful in the investigation of compassionate cases and in effecting liaison
with relatives when the situation requires it.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

JRW

July 4th 07, 08:50 PM

Tankfixer wrote:
> In article >,
> mumbled
>> The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>
>
> InDUHvidual in the photo is a civilian.....
>
>
> --
> Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
> diet of static text and
> cascading "threads."
So, that means he can be a moving target???? LoL

Even civilian patches can be subdued.
I have faith, but I also have faith in the camo...ha ha
:o))

JRW

Tankfixer

July 4th 07, 09:30 PM

In article >,
mumbled
> Tankfixer wrote:
> > In article >,
> > mumbled
> >> The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
> >>
> >
> > InDUHvidual in the photo is a civilian.....
> >
> >
> > --
> > Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
> > diet of static text and
> > cascading "threads."
> So, that means he can be a moving target???? LoL
>
> Even civilian patches can be subdued.
> I have faith, but I also have faith in the camo...ha ha
> :o))

The camo is unnecessary as I doubt his organization gets to hostile fire
zones.

Better to wear khakies or such IMHO

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Jules

July 5th 07, 01:36 AM

So is this like being a Colonel in the Salvation Army?

Billzz wrote:
> "Neil Hoskins" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chappie
>>>
>>>"The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor
>>>endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States
>>>government."
>>>
>>>It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion...
>>>
>>
>>Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty
>>much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican
>>church is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and
>>National Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer.
>
>
> Real chaplains in the US Armed forces are military officers paid by the
> branch of service. I'm afraid "Colonel Potter" is not a real colonel with a
> commission signed by the secretary of any US military branch. He alludes to
> being an enlisted chaplain's assistant, and now has joined some organization
> and assumed some position. In twenty-six years in the US Army, from private
> to colonel, I have never heard of this organization.
>
>

SWIGGY

July 5th 07, 04:30 AM

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:29:28 -0400, "SWIGGY"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:26:37 +0100, "Neil Hoskins"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Chappie
>>>>>
>>>>> "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor
>>>>> endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States
>>>>> government."
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty
>>>>much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican
>>>>church
>>>>is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and
>>>>National
>>>>Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer.
>>>
>>> Military services, Veterans Administration, and probably Public Health
>>> Service "real" chaplains are paid by the U.S. government.
>>> I have no idea how it is justified.
>>
>>They feed you meds as food for your health.
>>They feed you food as food for your body.
>>They feed you knowledge as food for your intellegence.
>>They feed you spiritual comfort as food for your soul.
>>
>>It's a smorgasboard. Take what ya want. If ya don't like the way the
>>spiritual food is prepared, you don't have to partake. Just because you do
>>not, does not mean that those that enjoy and relish it should be denied.
>
> At tax payer expense?

I do not have a problem with that. After all, a war zone chaplain needs
special training for the special needs of the troops. It does not interfere
with the constitution concerning setting up a national religion. It
acknowledges that many of our military personnel have a spiritual side that
must be fulfilled. They are often hundreds or thousands of miles away from
their home congregation. I'm neither Christian, Jew, nor Muslim, nor any
"eastern" religion. I dislike others infringing upon my belief, but I cannot
tolerate others who infringe on others beliefs. Attending a military
religious service is like attending a movie shown by the military: troop
morale. Ya don't HAVE to attend a military religious service, just like you
don't have to attend a military entertainment movie (versus training films)
or USO show.

It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy.
--
SWIGGY

Check out my vids at

http://home.comcast.net/~swiggy/index.html

Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter

July 5th 07, 04:55 AM

Wow! I didn't realize my post would create such discussion.

The mission of the United States Corps of Chaplains is --

to provide ministerial support and services to communities, families,
and individuals and all possible assistance in response to disasters of any
type;

to provide military honors and assistance to active military personnel,
veterans, and their families;

to promote patriotism in the community;

to defend the Constitution of the United States of America;

to uphold and defend the Bill of Rights, seen as unalienable, given by
God to free men that they might remain free;

to ensure that all citizens, regardless of race, color, religion, sex,
physical characteristics, or national origin, shall have the right and
opportunity to practice their religion as established and guaranteed by that
document which guides this great nation.

Some of our Chaplains are American Red Cross certified Instructors and some
have even received training from the Federal Emergency Management Agency
(FEMA). Law Enforcement as well as some Forensic Chaplains volunteer with
our organization. We have offered our services to post-Katrina efforts and
to the Crash of Flight 5191 in Lexington, KY. We also have some Chaplains
on active duty.

We do not require ordination, however, for the award of the title,
"Chaplain," verified ordination is required. We need Recruiters, Chaplain
Assistants, Personnel Officers, Administrative Officers, Disaster
Responders, YOU!!! With the current outlook for tornados, drought, forest
fires, and a very busy hurricane season, let us remember the Commonwealth of
Kentucky's motto, "United We Stand, Divided We Fall."

If you or anyone you know are interested in becoming a member of an
organization dedicated to nurturing the living, caring for the dying, and
honoring the dead, please feel free to contact us at: www.uscochq.com, or by
emailing Chaplain (Colonel) Lonnie J. Potter, National Recruiting
Coordinator, at or by writing: USCOC, P. O. Box
390, Clanton, AL 35046.

--
Chappie

Casey Tompkins

July 5th 07, 06:30 AM

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:08:01 -0700, Bob > wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY"
> wrote:
>>
>>It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy.

>I see now.
>So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to
>operate at maximum efficiency?

Bob,

Quit being a dick. You don't like it, STFU and move on...

Wayne Paul

July 5th 07, 06:38 AM

I am sorry to bring this up; however, this thread has nothing to do with
aviation pictures.

Please remove alt.binaries.pictures.aviation from future posts.

Respectfully,

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:55:35 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
> > wrote:
>
>>Wow! I didn't realize my post would create such discussion.
>
> I think I am beginning to understand now....
> http://www.uschaplainsacademy.org/
>
> Is this your academy and if so how much does it cost to become a
> Colonel and General Grades?
>
>>The mission of the United States Corps of Chaplains is --
>>
>> to provide ministerial support and services to communities, families,
>>and individuals and all possible assistance in response to disasters of
>>any
>>type;
>>
>> to provide military honors and assistance to active military
>> personnel,
>>veterans, and their families;
>>
>> to promote patriotism in the community;
>>
>> to defend the Constitution of the United States of America;
>>
>> to uphold and defend the Bill of Rights, seen as unalienable, given by
>>God to free men that they might remain free;
>>
>> to ensure that all citizens, regardless of race, color, religion,
>
> Religion? Only christians can apply?
>
>> sex,
>>physical characteristics, or national origin, shall have the right and
>>opportunity to practice their religion as established and guaranteed by
>>that
>>document which guides this great nation.
>>
>>Some of our Chaplains are American Red Cross certified Instructors and
>>some
>>have even received training from the Federal Emergency Management Agency
>>(FEMA). Law Enforcement as well as some Forensic Chaplains volunteer with
>>our organization.
>
>>We have offered our services to post-Katrina efforts and
>>to the Crash of Flight 5191 in Lexington, KY. We also have some Chaplains
>>on active duty.
>
> Were your services accepted and if so exactly what services and where
> did you operate?
>
>>
>>We do not require ordination, however, for the award of the title,
>>"Chaplain," verified ordination is required. We need Recruiters, Chaplain
>>Assistants, Personnel Officers, Administrative Officers, Disaster
>>Responders, YOU!!! With the current outlook for tornados, drought, forest
>>fires, and a very busy hurricane season, let us remember the Commonwealth
>>of
>>Kentucky's motto, "United We Stand, Divided We Fall."
>>
>>If you or anyone you know are interested in becoming a member of an
>>organization dedicated to nurturing the living, caring for the dying, and
>>honoring the dead, please feel free to contact us at: www.uscochq.com, or
>>by
>>emailing Chaplain (Colonel) Lonnie J. Potter, National Recruiting
>>Coordinator, at or by writing: USCOC, P. O. Box
>>390, Clanton, AL 35046.

Billzz

July 5th 07, 07:20 AM

"Wayne Paul" > wrote in message
...
>I am sorry to bring this up; however, this thread has nothing to do with
>aviation pictures.
>
> Please remove alt.binaries.pictures.aviation from future posts.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Wayne
> http://www.soaridaho.com/
>
>
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:55:35 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Wow! I didn't realize my post would create such discussion.
>>
>> I think I am beginning to understand now....
>> http://www.uschaplainsacademy.org/
>>
>> Is this your academy and if so how much does it cost to become a
>> Colonel and General Grades?
>>
>>>The mission of the United States Corps of Chaplains is --
>>>
>>> to provide ministerial support and services to communities, families,
>>>and individuals and all possible assistance in response to disasters of
>>>any
>>>type;
>>>
>>> to provide military honors and assistance to active military
>>> personnel,
>>>veterans, and their families;
>>>
>>> to promote patriotism in the community;
>>>
>>> to defend the Constitution of the United States of America;
>>>
>>> to uphold and defend the Bill of Rights, seen as unalienable, given
>>> by
>>>God to free men that they might remain free;
>>>
>>> to ensure that all citizens, regardless of race, color, religion,
>>
>> Religion? Only christians can apply?
>>
>>> sex,
>>>physical characteristics, or national origin, shall have the right and
>>>opportunity to practice their religion as established and guaranteed by
>>>that
>>>document which guides this great nation.
>>>
>>>Some of our Chaplains are American Red Cross certified Instructors and
>>>some
>>>have even received training from the Federal Emergency Management Agency
>>>(FEMA). Law Enforcement as well as some Forensic Chaplains volunteer with
>>>our organization.
>>
>>>We have offered our services to post-Katrina efforts and
>>>to the Crash of Flight 5191 in Lexington, KY. We also have some
>>>Chaplains
>>>on active duty.
>>
>> Were your services accepted and if so exactly what services and where
>> did you operate?
>>
>>>
>>>We do not require ordination, however, for the award of the title,
>>>"Chaplain," verified ordination is required. We need Recruiters, Chaplain
>>>Assistants, Personnel Officers, Administrative Officers, Disaster
>>>Responders, YOU!!! With the current outlook for tornados, drought, forest
>>>fires, and a very busy hurricane season, let us remember the Commonwealth
>>>of
>>>Kentucky's motto, "United We Stand, Divided We Fall."
>>>
>>>If you or anyone you know are interested in becoming a member of an
>>>organization dedicated to nurturing the living, caring for the dying, and
>>>honoring the dead, please feel free to contact us at: www.uscochq.com, or
>>>by
>>>emailing Chaplain (Colonel) Lonnie J. Potter, National Recruiting
>>>Coordinator, at or by writing: USCOC, P. O.
>>>Box
>>>390, Clanton, AL 35046.

I'm sorry to add another insight into this seemingly never-ending series of
stupid posts from so-called Chaplain (Colonel) Lonnie J. Potter, who says to
contact him at , not seeming to understand that
chaplains do not carry sidearms, and the US Army does not now carry the Colt
..45 and he seems to have withdrawn his picture in 1980's European
camouflage, which is now not used, and he is not now, nor has he ever been,
a chaplain in the US Army, which is what he wants everybody to think that he
is.

Of course, since this is alt.binaries.pictures.military, he could post his
commission. He could also post to us.military.army, where army people post.
But he won't.

Of course, I could be completely wrong, and he is a colonel in the US army
chaplains corps. It's easy to prove, especially since he has chosen to post
in only one group, and one that does pics.....

CWO4 Dave Mann

July 5th 07, 11:39 AM

Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter wrote:
> The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>
>

Congratulations Sir!

God Bless and keep you,

Dave Mann
CWO4 USA (Ret)

Dave Kearton

July 5th 07, 11:50 AM

CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
>> Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter wrote:
>>> The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Congratulations Sir!
>>
>> God Bless and keep you,
>>
>> Dave Mann
>> CWO4 USA (Ret)

Yep, have to agree with you Dave. The world needs balance,
without the Potters and their kind, we tend to get a little Nazi heavy.

Don't need to rapture too early.

--

Cheers

Dave Kearton

SWIGGY

July 5th 07, 04:39 PM

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:29:28 -0400, "SWIGGY"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:26:37 +0100, "Neil Hoskins"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Bob" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J.
>>>>>>> Potter"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Chappie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor
>>>>>>> endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United
>>>>>>> States
>>>>>>> government."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism
>>>>>>(pretty
>>>>>>much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican
>>>>>>church
>>>>>>is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and
>>>>>>National
>>>>>>Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Military services, Veterans Administration, and probably Public Health
>>>>> Service "real" chaplains are paid by the U.S. government.
>>>>> I have no idea how it is justified.
>>>>
>>>>They feed you meds as food for your health.
>>>>They feed you food as food for your body.
>>>>They feed you knowledge as food for your intellegence.
>>>>They feed you spiritual comfort as food for your soul.
>>>>
>>>>It's a smorgasboard. Take what ya want. If ya don't like the way the
>>>>spiritual food is prepared, you don't have to partake. Just because you
>>>>do
>>>>not, does not mean that those that enjoy and relish it should be denied.
>>>
>>> At tax payer expense?
>>
>>I do not have a problem with that. After all, a war zone chaplain needs
>>special training for the special needs of the troops. It does not
>>interfere
>>with the constitution concerning setting up a national religion. It
>>acknowledges that many of our military personnel have a spiritual side
>>that
>>must be fulfilled. They are often hundreds or thousands of miles away from
>>their home congregation. I'm neither Christian, Jew, nor Muslim, nor any
>>"eastern" religion. I dislike others infringing upon my belief, but I
>>cannot
>>tolerate others who infringe on others beliefs. Attending a military
>>religious service is like attending a movie shown by the military: troop
>>morale. Ya don't HAVE to attend a military religious service, just like
>>you
>>don't have to attend a military entertainment movie (versus training
>>films)
>>or USO show.
>>
>>It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy.
>
> I see now.
> So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to
> operate at maximum efficiency?

It would depend on how many were needed, as well as how many volunteers
signed up (including civilian) Camp followers have a long tradition working
with the military.

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Clairbear

July 5th 07, 06:50 PM

Bob > wrote in news:t94p83lokr1j676injrjvnkj1i22g8l6m8@
4ax.com:

> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:30:12 -0400, Casey Tompkins
> > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:08:01 -0700, Bob > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy.
>>
>>>I see now.
>>>So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to
>>>operate at maximum efficiency?
>>
>>Bob,
>>
>>Quit being a dick. You don't like it, STFU and move on...
>
> Why don't you STFU asshole and don't read it.
>
> I was ordered to attend so called christian church services in basic
> training and told I had to put down a christian religion on my dog
> tags. I didn't like it then and I don't like paying taxes to support
> military churches. The churchs want to pay chaplain wages that is
> fine. Just keep my taxes out of it.
>
>

where and when was you basic
I know in 1974 at Lackland that was not the case You could go to church or
not nad you were'nt forced to put down any particular religious affiliation

The are chaplins in the military from all faiths.

Casey Tompkins

July 6th 07, 06:13 AM

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:40:29 -0700, Bob > wrote:

>Why don't you STFU asshole and don't read it.
>
>I was ordered to attend so called christian church services in basic
>training and told I had to put down a christian religion on my dog
>tags. I didn't like it then and I don't like paying taxes to support
>military churches. The churchs want to pay chaplain wages that is
>fine. Just keep my taxes out of it.

Then someone screwed up, big time. I admit that would chafe my ass,
too, but I've known too many grunts to think that was "official."
Sounds like you got stuck with a real dillweed.

Next time really screw with 'em and just declare yourself pagan... :)

Yes, you can do that... :)

Savageduck

July 6th 07, 04:11 PM

Bob wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:55:35 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
> > wrote:
>
>> Wow! I didn't realize my post would create such discussion.
>
> I think I am beginning to understand now....

Agreed Bob. All is revealed. This is exploitive SPAM!

I think the "Colonel" is in the business of exploiting those who may be
sincere in their beliefs, but are locked into the philosophy of the
Christian right.

Today and in the recent past military organizations in the US and other
countries have provided for those in need of support of their faith with
the military Chaplain.
Chaplains I have known were good men bringing comfort to anguished men
(and now many women). They have risked themselves under fire. Most had a
broad understanding of many Christian denominations and religions and
did not evangelize. They did not bicker over who was Catholic, who was
Baptist, Jew, Muslim or atheist. They brought aid to all without self
aggrandizement or attempting to "save" those comfortable with themselves
not seeking to be "saved."
Chaplains of all faiths have been on the front lines of conflicts when
they can. They have fallen in battle and have been wounded and damaged
by their experiences. They are trained and know how to deal with the
psychological and spiritual trauma troops in the field suffer.

The "Colonel" needs to let the Chaplains do their job. His exploitive
presence can only interfere with that.

Savageduck

Wayne Paul

July 6th 07, 04:32 PM

"Savageduck" > wrote in message
...
>
> Agreed Bob. All is revealed. This is exploitive SPAM!
>
> I think the "Colonel" is in the business of exploiting those who may be
> sincere in their beliefs, but are locked into the philosophy of the
> Christian right.
>
> Today and in the recent past military organizations in the US and other
> countries have provided for those in need of support of their faith with
> the military Chaplain.
> Chaplains I have known were good men bringing comfort to anguished men
> (and now many women). They have risked themselves under fire. Most had a
> broad understanding of many Christian denominations and religions and did
> not evangelize. They did not bicker over who was Catholic, who was
> Baptist, Jew, Muslim or atheist. They brought aid to all without self
> aggrandizement or attempting to "save" those comfortable with themselves
> not seeking to be "saved."
> Chaplains of all faiths have been on the front lines of conflicts when
> they can. They have fallen in battle and have been wounded and damaged by
> their experiences. They are trained and know how to deal with the
> psychological and spiritual trauma troops in the field suffer.
>
> The "Colonel" needs to let the Chaplains do their job. His exploitive
> presence can only interfere with that.
>
> Savageduck

Well stated. Thank you.

I hope this thread goes away. It definitely is SPAM with no revelance to
the alt.binaries.pictures.aviation charter.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/

Paul Elliot

July 6th 07, 05:10 PM

Casey Tompkins wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:40:29 -0700, Bob > wrote:
>
>
>> Why don't you STFU asshole and don't read it.
>>
>> I was ordered to attend so called christian church services in basic
>> training and told I had to put down a christian religion on my dog
>> tags. I didn't like it then and I don't like paying taxes to support
>> military churches. The churchs want to pay chaplain wages that is
>> fine. Just keep my taxes out of it.
>
> Then someone screwed up, big time. I admit that would chafe my ass,
> too, but I've known too many grunts to think that was "official."
> Sounds like you got stuck with a real dillweed.
>
> Next time really screw with 'em and just declare yourself pagan... :)
>
> Yes, you can do that... :)
>

When I was in the US Army, 1972-76, I had a couple of friends that were
lobbying to have their religion listed as "Wiccan". IIRC they succeeded
after a while. I supported the effort even though I am an ordained
Presbyterian elder. It is their constitutional right.

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German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
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Paul Elliot

July 6th 07, 05:13 PM

Wayne Paul wrote:
> "Savageduck" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Agreed Bob. All is revealed. This is exploitive SPAM!
>>
>> I think the "Colonel" is in the business of exploiting those who may be
>> sincere in their beliefs, but are locked into the philosophy of the
>> Christian right.
>>
>> Today and in the recent past military organizations in the US and other
>> countries have provided for those in need of support of their faith with
>> the military Chaplain.
>> Chaplains I have known were good men bringing comfort to anguished men
>> (and now many women). They have risked themselves under fire. Most had a
>> broad understanding of many Christian denominations and religions and did
>> not evangelize. They did not bicker over who was Catholic, who was
>> Baptist, Jew, Muslim or atheist. They brought aid to all without self
>> aggrandizement or attempting to "save" those comfortable with themselves
>> not seeking to be "saved."
>> Chaplains of all faiths have been on the front lines of conflicts when
>> they can. They have fallen in battle and have been wounded and damaged by
>> their experiences. They are trained and know how to deal with the
>> psychological and spiritual trauma troops in the field suffer.
>>
>> The "Colonel" needs to let the Chaplains do their job. His exploitive
>> presence can only interfere with that.
>>
>> Savageduck
>
> Well stated. Thank you.
>
> I hope this thread goes away. It definitely is SPAM with no revelance to
> the alt.binaries.pictures.aviation charter.
>
> Wayne
> HP-14 "6F"
> http://www.soaridaho.com/
>
>

Even though I contributed I have to agree.

--
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/

Andrew Chaplin

July 6th 07, 10:43 PM

"Billzz" > wrote in message
...
> "Neil Hoskins" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Bob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chappie
>>>
>>> "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor
>>> endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States
>>> government."
>>>
>>> It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion...
>>>
>>
>> Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty
>> much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican church
>> is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and
>> National Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer.
>
> Real chaplains in the US Armed forces are military officers paid by the
> branch of service. I'm afraid "Colonel Potter" is not a real colonel with a
> commission signed by the secretary of any US military branch. He alludes to
> being an enlisted chaplain's assistant, and now has joined some organization
> and assumed some position. In twenty-six years in the US Army, from private
> to colonel, I have never heard of this organization.

Where does he get off presenting himself as a "colonel" without a commission?
I gather even Kentucky colonels have a commission in the state militia.

This sounds as legitimate as styling oneself "Grand Poobah."
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