One more question...

[john smith]

In what format do you save your images on your camera's data card?
RAW
JPG/SHQ
JPG/HQ
(The E-510 will not shoot burst/continuous in RAW format mode.)

[Scubabix]

I shoot everything in RAW and then process with Adobe Lightroom.

Rob

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"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In what format do you save your images on your camera's data card?
> RAW
> JPG/SHQ
> JPG/HQ
> (The E-510 will not shoot burst/continuous in RAW format mode.)

[Dave Kearton]

Scubabix wrote:
>> I shoot everything in RAW and then process with Adobe Lightroom.
>>
>> Rob
>>



Jeebus Rob, at least wear a towel, there are innocent bystanders around
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[Andrew-S]

I generaly shoot in High JPG unless I am doing portraits, tricky exposures
or weird lighting. Then I shoot in RAW. Image noise and resolution is not
a problem as long as you are in the highest quality JPG.

As matter of fact I recently sold a 60+ inch enlargement and few smaller
ones that where shot with a borrowed EOS 5D in high JPG to a contractor.
Someone else had done a similar shoot with a Nikon D2Xs and shot their
images in RAW. In the end even though I was several hundred dollars more,
the contractor chose my images for enlargement. Quite simply I had better
colour and less noise than the Nikon shooter. To be fair about this though
I still say the Nikon system has the best flash technology of any of the
current camera systems.

It's a case by case basis for the old argument over which is better, RAW or
JPG. I have seen and encountered many situations in which RAW is the only
way to go, and many other times where JPG is best choice.

For software I would encourage you to download trial versions of:

Lightroom from Adobe,
IView Media Pro by Microsoft,

Capture One by Phase One,

and if your a Mac aficionado,

Aperture by Apple.

I have or have worked with almost all of these titles (Capture One is the
exception), and all are VERY VERY good.

Good Luck,

Andrew


"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In what format do you save your images on your camera's data card?
> RAW
> JPG/SHQ
> JPG/HQ
> (The E-510 will not shoot burst/continuous in RAW format mode.)

[john smith]

Thanks Andrew.
One of the things I have been told is that Lightroom is preferred over
Aperature because it integrates with Photoshop seamlessly, whereas
Aperature requires some fiddling to get it to work with Photoshop.
I do use Mac's and and played with Aperature a little but do not have
any experience with Lightroom. I am told they are very similar.

To the group:
How much RAM does it take to get RAW to load faster?
(All my RAW images are in the 8-11 MB file size.)

Andrew-S wrote:
> I generaly shoot in High JPG unless I am doing portraits, tricky exposures
> or weird lighting. Then I shoot in RAW. Image noise and resolution is not
> a problem as long as you are in the highest quality JPG.
>
> As matter of fact I recently sold a 60+ inch enlargement and few smaller
> ones that where shot with a borrowed EOS 5D in high JPG to a contractor.
> Someone else had done a similar shoot with a Nikon D2Xs and shot their
> images in RAW. In the end even though I was several hundred dollars more,
> the contractor chose my images for enlargement. Quite simply I had better
> colour and less noise than the Nikon shooter. To be fair about this though
> I still say the Nikon system has the best flash technology of any of the
> current camera systems.
>
> It's a case by case basis for the old argument over which is better, RAW or
> JPG. I have seen and encountered many situations in which RAW is the only
> way to go, and many other times where JPG is best choice.
>
> For software I would encourage you to download trial versions of:
>
> Lightroom from Adobe,
> IView Media Pro by Microsoft,
>
> Capture One by Phase One,
>
> and if your a Mac aficionado,
>
> Aperture by Apple.
>
> I have or have worked with almost all of these titles (Capture One is the
> exception), and all are VERY VERY good.

[Scubabix]

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Andrew.
> One of the things I have been told is that Lightroom is preferred over
> Aperature because it integrates with Photoshop seamlessly, whereas
> Aperature requires some fiddling to get it to work with Photoshop.
> I do use Mac's and and played with Aperature a little but do not have any
> experience with Lightroom. I am told they are very similar.
>
> To the group:
> How much RAM does it take to get RAW to load faster?
> (All my RAW images are in the 8-11 MB file size.)
>
Any additional RAM will allow your system to run faster. I don't have any
experience with Aperture, but, I really like Lightroom because of the
previously mentioned integration with PS. If I'm just processing the image
and not manipulating it, I do almost everything in Lightroom.

Rob

[Bob Harrington]

john smith > wrote in news:468fac83$0$12223
:

> In what format do you save your images on your camera's data card?
> RAW
> JPG/SHQ
> JPG/HQ
> (The E-510 will not shoot burst/continuous in RAW format mode.)

I shoot RAW + JPG (for a quick review) at the highest resolution - almost 40
years of shooting film has taught me it's a Good Thing to have a decent
original to work from.

I still chuckle at myself every time I swap CF cards after carefully turning
my back to the sun so I can keep them in shade...

Bob ^,,^

[Andrew-S]

My Mac is running at 2 gigs of Ram (it's only a Macbook).

My PC has 4 gigs of ram

and my PC LapTop has 2 Gigs.


If my shoot runs a thousand images or more images I hate life on either the
Mac or the PC Laptop. My Pc Desktop just groans once and I have my thousand
or more images in JPG in about 10 minutes. If the images are in raw make
that a 1000 images in about 20 minutes.

Word of advise from someone who sells cameras and processes images in
batches of a 1000. Don't get too hung up on the power of Raw on the other
hand don't believe that a JPG can do everything. Each has their merits and
weaknesses; an intellegent balance of when to shoot one versus the other is
the best way.

Andrew



"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Andrew.
> One of the things I have been told is that Lightroom is preferred over
> Aperature because it integrates with Photoshop seamlessly, whereas
> Aperature requires some fiddling to get it to work with Photoshop.
> I do use Mac's and and played with Aperature a little but do not have any
> experience with Lightroom. I am told they are very similar.
>
> To the group:
> How much RAM does it take to get RAW to load faster?
> (All my RAW images are in the 8-11 MB file size.)
>

[john smith[_2_]]

"Andrew-S" wrote:

> My Mac is running at 2 gigs of Ram (it's only a Macbook).
> My PC has 4 gigs of ram> and my PC LapTop has 2 Gigs.
> If my shoot runs a thousand images or more images I hate life on either the
> Mac or the PC Laptop. My Pc Desktop just groans once and I have my thousand
> or more images in JPG in about 10 minutes. If the images are in raw make
> that a 1000 images in about 20 minutes.
> Word of advise from someone who sells cameras and processes images in
> batches of a 1000. Don't get too hung up on the power of Raw on the other
> hand don't believe that a JPG can do everything. Each has their merits and
> weaknesses; an intellegent balance of when to shoot one versus the other is
> the best way.

So the moral of the story is, have more RAM than the size of your
datacard? :-))

[Clairbear]

"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
wrote in :

> My Mac is running at 2 gigs of Ram (it's only a Macbook).
>
> My PC has 4 gigs of ram
>
> and my PC LapTop has 2 Gigs.
>
>
> If my shoot runs a thousand images or more images I hate life on
> either the Mac or the PC Laptop. My Pc Desktop just groans once and I
> have my thousand or more images in JPG in about 10 minutes. If the
> images are in raw make that a 1000 images in about 20 minutes.
>
> Word of advise from someone who sells cameras and processes images in
> batches of a 1000. Don't get too hung up on the power of Raw on the
> other hand don't believe that a JPG can do everything. Each has
> their merits and weaknesses; an intellegent balance of when to shoot
> one versus the other is the best way.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> "john smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thanks Andrew.
>> One of the things I have been told is that Lightroom is preferred
>> over Aperature because it integrates with Photoshop seamlessly,
>> whereas Aperature requires some fiddling to get it to work with
>> Photoshop. I do use Mac's and and played with Aperature a little but
>> do not have any experience with Lightroom. I am told they are very
>> similar.
>>
>> To the group:
>> How much RAM does it take to get RAW to load faster?
>> (All my RAW images are in the 8-11 MB file size.)
>>
>
>
>

Raw is good for the really important jobs but Jpegs a best fo the everyday
volume that I shoot

[Andrew-S]

I don't know if thats true or not because my largest CF cards are only 4
gigs. And the most my PC supports is 4 gigs.

However I may try an 8 gig in the near future...


Andrew

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> "Andrew-S" wrote:
>
>> My Mac is running at 2 gigs of Ram (it's only a Macbook).
>> My PC has 4 gigs of ram> and my PC LapTop has 2 Gigs.
>> If my shoot runs a thousand images or more images I hate life on either
>> the
>> Mac or the PC Laptop. My Pc Desktop just groans once and I have my
>> thousand
>> or more images in JPG in about 10 minutes. If the images are in raw make
>> that a 1000 images in about 20 minutes.
>> Word of advise from someone who sells cameras and processes images in
>> batches of a 1000. Don't get too hung up on the power of Raw on the
>> other
>> hand don't believe that a JPG can do everything. Each has their merits
>> and
>> weaknesses; an intellegent balance of when to shoot one versus the other
>> is
>> the best way.
>
> So the moral of the story is, have more RAM than the size of your
> datacard? :-))

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:30:29 GMT, Bob Harrington
> wrote:

>john smith > wrote in news:468fac83$0$12223
:
>
>> In what format do you save your images on your camera's data card?
>> RAW
>> JPG/SHQ
>> JPG/HQ
>> (The E-510 will not shoot burst/continuous in RAW format mode.)
>
>I shoot RAW + JPG (for a quick review) at the highest resolution - almost 40
>years of shooting film has taught me it's a Good Thing to have a decent
>original to work from.
>
>I still chuckle at myself every time I swap CF cards after carefully turning
>my back to the sun so I can keep them in shade...

But you have to shield them rom mobile phone radiation ;-)
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[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

Why on earth are you loading all 1000 images into memory at once?

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:50:22 -0400, "Andrew-S"
<I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com> wrote:

> My Mac is running at 2 gigs of Ram (it's only a Macbook).
>
>My PC has 4 gigs of ram
>
>and my PC LapTop has 2 Gigs.
>
>
>If my shoot runs a thousand images or more images I hate life on either the
>Mac or the PC Laptop. My Pc Desktop just groans once and I have my thousand
>or more images in JPG in about 10 minutes. If the images are in raw make
>that a 1000 images in about 20 minutes.
>
>Word of advise from someone who sells cameras and processes images in
>batches of a 1000. Don't get too hung up on the power of Raw on the other
>hand don't believe that a JPG can do everything. Each has their merits and
>weaknesses; an intellegent balance of when to shoot one versus the other is
>the best way.
>
>Andrew
>
>
>
>"john smith" > wrote in message
...
>> Thanks Andrew.
>> One of the things I have been told is that Lightroom is preferred over
>> Aperature because it integrates with Photoshop seamlessly, whereas
>> Aperature requires some fiddling to get it to work with Photoshop.
>> I do use Mac's and and played with Aperature a little but do not have any
>> experience with Lightroom. I am told they are very similar.
>>
>> To the group:
>> How much RAM does it take to get RAW to load faster?
>> (All my RAW images are in the 8-11 MB file size.)
>>
>
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