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troy24
July 7th 07, 09:40 PM

Dallas[_2_]
July 7th 07, 11:38 PM
Just to let you know, The only reason I am putting you in my Plonk basket,
is because you are posting in yEnc. Im sure your pictures are nice, but
since all it puts out here is jibberish, I wont be viewing any of it anyway.
D

Dallas[_2_]
July 8th 07, 03:39 AM
The group has had a long time established guideline of not posting in yEnc.
Why post images in a format that cant be viewed by everyone. So why bother
downloading the headers of those who post in yEnc. Oh, I just added you to
the plonk barrel too. Have a nice day. :D

"Clark" > wrote in message
...
> "Dallas" > wrote in
> news:SBUji.2514$Xa3.1712@attbi_s22:
>
>> Just to let you know, The only reason I am putting you in my Plonk
>> basket, is because you are posting in yEnc. Im sure your pictures are
>> nice, but since all it puts out here is jibberish, I wont be viewing any
>> of it anyway. D
>>
>>
> Grow up.
>
>
> --
> ---
> there should be a "sig" here

Clairbear
July 8th 07, 03:53 AM
"Dallas" > wrote in
news:SBUji.2514$Xa3.1712@attbi_s22:

> Just to let you know, The only reason I am putting you in my Plonk
> basket, is because you are posting in yEnc. Im sure your pictures are
> nice, but since all it puts out here is jibberish, I wont be viewing
> any of it anyway. D
>
>
>

why don't you just get program like xnews that decodes yenc or just not
bother to complain and ignore the posters who use it.

Jim Morris[_2_]
July 8th 07, 04:22 AM
>>>
> Like I said, grow up. Plonking me has no affect on what I post. Posting
> complaints about yenc won't change a thing. Add a free yenc decoder to the
> sorry excuse for a newsreader you use and you won't have to complain about
> something that is a total non-event.

You are stupid. Go away.
yEnc free (mostly) for a very long time.
Us old folks like it that way.
Now go away.

Old fashioned Jim Morris

Andrew-S
July 8th 07, 05:36 AM
Excuse me...?

You are the newbie here... Many of us have been here for many years, a few
years ago we took a vote and the NON-yEnc crowd won. Granted it was
spirited argument and there where a lot of VERY valid points made by BOTH
SIDES. However in the end the NON yEnc people arguments won out. For the
record and for your information; many of us for one reason or another prefer
our simpler newsreaders such as OE, and perhaps a few other programs who's
titles I can't recall. Granted they are best for suited for casual or light
newsgroup users, but for people such as myself who have tried the others we
still prefer our light readers. So given that this group is about aviation
imagery aimed at the more casual NG users, why would you come in here post
dozens of images in a format that not everyone can read??? To make matters
worse you don't even follow the established protocols usually followed in
NGs that are highly yEnc oriented, such as mentioning yEnc in subject
line....

So now you are going to accuse the regulars of being rude and stupid?
Better still you are going to dictate to them about the software that they
use. All because they took exception to a NEWBIE posting in a format that
not everyone can read???

Have I missed something or????

Andrew


"Clark" > wrote in message
...
> "Jim Morris" > wrote in
> news:fMYji.435234$ZA5.77824
> @newsfe15.phx:
>
>>>>>
>>> Like I said, grow up. Plonking me has no affect on what I post. Posting
>>> complaints about yenc won't change a thing. Add a free yenc decoder to
>>> the
>>> sorry excuse for a newsreader you use and you won't have to complain
>>> about
>>> something that is a total non-event.
>>
>> You are stupid. Go away.
>> yEnc free (mostly) for a very long time.
>> Us old folks like it that way.
>> Now go away.
>>
>> Old fashioned Jim Morris
>>
>
> I'll be a little more specific than my other post.
>
> "Dallas" was rude. Uncalled for rude. Your are equally rude. If you don't
> like something, calling it stupid won't help. Saying you can't change for
> the
> better won't help. Telling other people what to do won't help. Do you get
> it
> now? I doubt it.
>
> --
> ---
> there should be a "sig" here

Shiver
July 8th 07, 06:09 AM
> Andrew-S <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I> wrote:


> Have I missed something or????

Nope.... As usual you have hit those little nails squarly on the head.


As I have said before..... I can't miss what I can't see.

Andrew-S
July 8th 07, 06:25 AM
No need for YOU to apologize... However I will concede my mistake as to the
original poster of the images...

and thank you very much but my head is quite firmly in place, but I wonder
how is yours?

Andrew


"Clark" > wrote in message
...
> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com> wrote
> in :
>
>> Excuse me...?
>>
>> You are the newbie here... Many of us have been here for many years, a
>> few years ago we took a vote and the NON-yEnc crowd won. Granted it was
>> spirited argument and there where a lot of VERY valid points made by
>> BOTH SIDES. However in the end the NON yEnc people arguments won out.
>> For the record and for your information; many of us for one reason or
>> another prefer our simpler newsreaders such as OE, and perhaps a few
>> other programs who's titles I can't recall. Granted they are best for
>> suited for casual or light newsgroup users, but for people such as
>> myself who have tried the others we still prefer our light readers. So
>> given that this group is about aviation imagery aimed at the more casual
>> NG users, why would you come in here post dozens of images in a format
>> that not everyone can read??? To make matters worse you don't even
>> follow the established protocols usually followed in NGs that are highly
>> yEnc oriented, such as mentioning yEnc in subject line....
>>
>> So now you are going to accuse the regulars of being rude and stupid?
>> Better still you are going to dictate to them about the software that
>> they use. All because they took exception to a NEWBIE posting in a
>> format that not everyone can read???
>>
>> Have I missed something or????
>
>
> Andrew, you are seriously mistaken. I haven't called people stupid. I have
> called some people rude because they were.
>
> FYI, I didn't post the images, sorry.
>
> When you get your head straightened out and figure out what really
> happend,
> I'll read you apology and consider the circumstances.
>
>>
>> "Clark" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Jim Morris" > wrote in
>>> news:fMYji.435234$ZA5.77824
>>> @newsfe15.phx:
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Like I said, grow up. Plonking me has no affect on what I post.
>>>>> Posting complaints about yenc won't change a thing. Add a free yenc
>>>>> decoder to the
>>>>> sorry excuse for a newsreader you use and you won't have to complain
>>>>> about
>>>>> something that is a total non-event.
>>>>
>>>> You are stupid. Go away.
>>>> yEnc free (mostly) for a very long time.
>>>> Us old folks like it that way.
>>>> Now go away.
>>>>
>>>> Old fashioned Jim Morris
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'll be a little more specific than my other post.
>>>
>>> "Dallas" was rude. Uncalled for rude. Your are equally rude. If you
>>> don't like something, calling it stupid won't help. Saying you can't
>>> change for the
>>> better won't help. Telling other people what to do won't help. Do you
>>> get it
>>> now? I doubt it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> there should be a "sig" here
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ---
> there should be a "sig" here

Andrew-S
July 8th 07, 06:34 AM
But I did mistake the orignally poster...

My sin, but postings that are in formats I can't read are automatically
killed by me...

I need to stop lurking and get some advance work done for a possible air to
air, and air to ground shoot on Tuesday or Wednesday. This could be a very
exciting one if I can get some lower humidity.

Andrew

"shiver" > wrote in message
...
>> Andrew-S <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I> wrote:
>
>
>> Have I missed something or????
>
> Nope.... As usual you have hit those little nails squarly on the head.
>
>
> As I have said before..... I can't miss what I can't see.

Ken Gerlach
July 8th 07, 06:53 AM
My problem with the poster is NOT yEnc (which I took the few minutes needed
to download), BUT that the aircraft are NOT identified,! Therefore I cannot
add them to my collection. PLEASE tell us exactly what plane is depicted!!!
gkg

"Clairbear" > wrote in message
...
> "Dallas" > wrote in
> news:SBUji.2514$Xa3.1712@attbi_s22:
>
>> Just to let you know, The only reason I am putting you in my Plonk
>> basket, is because you are posting in yEnc. Im sure your pictures are
>> nice, but since all it puts out here is jibberish, I wont be viewing
>> any of it anyway. D
>>
>>
>>
>
> why don't you just get program like xnews that decodes yenc or just not
> bother to complain and ignore the posters who use it.

Dallas[_2_]
July 8th 07, 08:19 AM
Plonk again, for being an annoying little child.

"Klark" > wrote in message
...
> "Dallas" > wrote in
> news:t7Yji.2754$Xa3.1637@attbi_s22:
>
>> The group has had a long time established guideline of not posting in
>> yEnc. Why post images in a format that cant be viewed by everyone. So
>> why bother downloading the headers of those who post in yEnc. Oh, I
>> just added you to the plonk barrel too. Have a nice day. :D
>>
>> "Clark" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Dallas" > wrote in
>>> news:SBUji.2514$Xa3.1712@attbi_s22:
>>>
>>>> Just to let you know, The only reason I am putting you in my Plonk
>>>> basket, is because you are posting in yEnc. Im sure your pictures are
>>>> nice, but since all it puts out here is jibberish, I wont be viewing
>>>> any of it anyway. D
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Grow up.
>>>
> Like I said, grow up. Plonking me has no affect on what I post. Posting
> complaints about yenc won't change a thing. Add a free yenc decoder to the
> sorry excuse for a newsreader you use and you won't have to complain about
> something that is a total non-event.
>
>
>
> --
> ---
> there should be a "sig" here

Dallas[_2_]
July 8th 07, 08:24 AM
Why do you choose to insinuate yourself in a point a to point b message
complaining about my complaining.... The group has established for a very
long time that the prefered posting format is non yEnc. I simply informed
the person that was posting in yEnc as to why I was blocking him from my
reception. If in the future he posts in the proper format, I will gladly
unblock him. As to my program usage, why should I jump thru hoops to put in
extra software that I have no need of. I see everyone elses images just
fine, at least the ones that have the common respect to follow the groups
charter. Nuff said. I wish you a good day.

"Clairbear" > wrote in message
...
> "Dallas" > wrote in
> news:SBUji.2514$Xa3.1712@attbi_s22:
>
>> Just to let you know, The only reason I am putting you in my Plonk
>> basket, is because you are posting in yEnc. Im sure your pictures are
>> nice, but since all it puts out here is jibberish, I wont be viewing
>> any of it anyway. D
>>
>>
>>
>
> why don't you just get program like xnews that decodes yenc or just not
> bother to complain and ignore the posters who use it.

Troy24
July 8th 07, 05:08 PM
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:40:32 +0000, (troy24) wrote:

Instead of Bitching about the posting why don't you offer help.
What a bunch of A__holes

Clairbear
July 8th 07, 05:12 PM
"Dallas" > wrote in
news:5j0ki.20050$Fc.5648@attbi_s21:

> Why do you choose to insinuate yourself in a point a to point b
> message complaining about my complaining.... The group has
> established for a very long time that the prefered posting format is
> non yEnc. I simply informed the person that was posting in yEnc as to
> why I was blocking him from my reception. If in the future he posts
> in the proper format, I will gladly unblock him. As to my program
> usage, why should I jump thru hoops to put in extra software that I
> have no need of. I see everyone elses images just fine, at least the
> ones that have the common respect to follow the groups charter. Nuff
> said. I wish you a good day.
>
It is too much trouble to dl a useful program rather then plod along using
something like outlook?
I use xnews which eliminates the yenc issue the hassle of downloading and
pasting back together multipart files and just overallincreases the speed
and enjoyment of the usenet. Give it a try you might like it
Remember "It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness"

Troy24
July 8th 07, 05:18 PM
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:12:48 GMT, Clairbear > wrote:

>"Dallas" > wrote in
>news:5j0ki.20050$Fc.5648@attbi_s21:
>
>> Why do you choose to insinuate yourself in a point a to point b
>> message complaining about my complaining.... The group has
>> established for a very long time that the prefered posting format is
>> non yEnc. I simply informed the person that was posting in yEnc as to
>> why I was blocking him from my reception. If in the future he posts
>> in the proper format, I will gladly unblock him. As to my program
>> usage, why should I jump thru hoops to put in extra software that I
>> have no need of. I see everyone elses images just fine, at least the
>> ones that have the common respect to follow the groups charter. Nuff
>> said. I wish you a good day.
>>
>It is too much trouble to dl a useful program rather then plod along using
>something like outlook?
>I use xnews which eliminates the yenc issue the hassle of downloading and
>pasting back together multipart files and just overallincreases the speed
>and enjoyment of the usenet. Give it a try you might like it
>Remember "It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness"
Thank you I will try XNEWS

Clairbear
July 8th 07, 05:33 PM
Troy24 > wrote in
:

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:12:48 GMT, Clairbear > wrote:
>
>>"Dallas" > wrote in
>>news:5j0ki.20050$Fc.5648@attbi_s21:
>>
>>> Why do you choose to insinuate yourself in a point a to point b
>>> message complaining about my complaining.... The group has
>>> established for a very long time that the prefered posting format
>>> is non yEnc. I simply informed the person that was posting in yEnc
>>> as to why I was blocking him from my reception. If in the future he
>>> posts in the proper format, I will gladly unblock him. As to my
>>> program usage, why should I jump thru hoops to put in extra software
>>> that I have no need of. I see everyone elses images just fine, at
>>> least the ones that have the common respect to follow the groups
>>> charter. Nuff said. I wish you a good day.
>>>
>>It is too much trouble to dl a useful program rather then plod along
>>using something like outlook?
>>I use xnews which eliminates the yenc issue the hassle of downloading
>>and pasting back together multipart files and just overallincreases
>>the speed and enjoyment of the usenet. Give it a try you might like it
>>Remember "It is better to light a single candle than to curse the
>>darkness"
> Thank you I will try XNEWS
>

You are welcome

Gene S. Park
July 8th 07, 07:35 PM
I don't have time to put up with his moronic crap. He's blocked


"Clark" > wrote in message
...
> "Jim Morris" > wrote in
> news:fMYji.435234$ZA5.77824
> @newsfe15.phx:
>
>>>>>
>>> Like I said, grow up. Plonking me has no affect on what I post. Posting
>>> complaints about yenc won't change a thing. Add a free yenc decoder to
>>> the
>>> sorry excuse for a newsreader you use and you won't have to complain
>>> about
>>> something that is a total non-event.
>>
>> You are stupid. Go away.
>> yEnc free (mostly) for a very long time.
>> Us old folks like it that way.
>> Now go away.
>>
>> Old fashioned Jim Morris
>>
>
> I'll be a little more specific than my other post.
>
> "Dallas" was rude. Uncalled for rude. Your are equally rude. If you don't
> like something, calling it stupid won't help. Saying you can't change for
> the
> better won't help. Telling other people what to do won't help. Do you get
> it
> now? I doubt it.
>
> --
> ---
> there should be a "sig" here

Gene S. Park
July 9th 07, 02:38 AM
I would love to see a post, but so far all there is some asinine gibberish
in that yEnc code. If the poster so thoughtless or mindless to post in a
code that seems to be universally detested, then I don't have time trying to
decode it. There are other posters who do a wonderful job in posting in jpg,
and I thank them for all of their hard work and effort. So for yEnc posters,
you are blocked and can **** off for all I care and I get on to seeing
images instead of gibberish.


"Qlark" > wrote in message
...
> "Dallas" > wrote in news:Nd0ki.20042
> $Fc.15527@attbi_s21:
>
>> Plonk again, for being an annoying little child.
>
> Are we having fun yet? Do you feel powerful when you announce to the world
> that you can't stand to see a post from someone?
>
>>
>> "Klark" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Dallas" > wrote in
>>> news:t7Yji.2754$Xa3.1637@attbi_s22:
>>>
>>>> The group has had a long time established guideline of not posting in
>>>> yEnc. Why post images in a format that cant be viewed by everyone. So
>>>> why bother downloading the headers of those who post in yEnc. Oh, I
>>>> just added you to the plonk barrel too. Have a nice day. :D
>>>>
>>>> "Clark" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "Dallas" > wrote in
>>>>> news:SBUji.2514$Xa3.1712@attbi_s22:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to let you know, The only reason I am putting you in my Plonk
>>>>>> basket, is because you are posting in yEnc. Im sure your pictures
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> nice, but since all it puts out here is jibberish, I wont be viewing
>>>>>> any of it anyway. D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Grow up.
>>>>>
>>> Like I said, grow up. Plonking me has no affect on what I post. Posting
>>> complaints about yenc won't change a thing. Add a free yenc decoder to
>>> the
>>> sorry excuse for a newsreader you use and you won't have to complain
>>> about
>>> something that is a total non-event.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> there should be a "sig" here
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ---
> there should be a "sig" here

Ernest Fowler
July 15th 07, 06:46 AM
Well, Troy, I'd do this privately since it IS a week late but I'm not so
sure your email is 'true'. So, here goes nutin'...

What the old-timers were trying to tell you is that we have got a protocol
for doing things on this particular UG. That is because this UG has
actually got old-timers in the UG that are authorities on the very subject
this group is about...aviation. Many have been photographers for years and
might have provided some of the images you probably uploaded over the past
few days. Others are artists of one kind or another whose specialty is
aviation art. Some have been air frame mechanics, some designers, others
were crew on aircraft seen here, some, well, you get the picture? These
folk KNOW about aviation in its many forms. They have every right to be
critical. They have forgotten more about those images you have to upload
than you can find in any other source. Just be polite and listen. Ask
questions if you can. But don't get snotty (see your post below, Troy). It
won't get you anywhere with them.

Now then, Troy, about the format you used. Nothing is wrong with it (in a
manner of speaking). Just let us know you are not sending us your pictures
as JPG, JPEG, BMP (if you must) or other plain jane format. In your subject
line include yEnc for information purposes. Then folk like myself know we
need to add a step or two BEFORE we can see the images. As someone else
already pointed out, throughout the UG-sphere the standard is to provide the
format if it is NOT standard binary. You probably don't know this but some
of the countries that members of this UG come from actually charge internet
users for every second they access the 'net. When they download one of your
images thinking it is part of a series, they end up wasting money as well as
time. They will get upset if you waste their time (kinda noticed that,
didn't you?). Oh, and not all of us have hi-speed internet access either.

Last of all, Troy, please, Please, PLEASE provide us with whatever you have
about the source of your images. If they are copyrighted, we MUST know. It
is the right thing to do, providing the credit where it is due. Remember,
you MIGHT be uploading an image provided by a member of this UG. And that
individual WILL want that credit provided. You haven't been here long
enough, obviously, to have seen some of the long threads on how someone has
stolen someone else's work. Trust me, Troy, you do NOT want them to start
in on you. Blood, guts, fur, smoke everywhere from the flames...it isn't
pretty, Troy, it isn't pretty.

Now, pardon me but I have some more downloading of your images to do. Take
care and thanks for the uploads.

Oh, by the way, some of these same folk are found on other UG where they
share other interests. Anger them here and you might find yourself
embarrassed elsewhere.

Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas, USA

"Troy24" > wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:40:32 +0000, (troy24) wrote:

Instead of Bitching about the posting why don't you offer help.
What a bunch of A__holes

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