9/11 Proof: Black box proves no passenger jet hit Pentagon

[Custard Cream]

9/11 Conspiracy: No Boeing 757 Hit the Pentagon (June 21, 2007)

Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government
under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11
Report claims hit the Pentagon.

Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction,
approach, and altitude.

The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the
Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor.

This result confirms and strengthens the previous findings of Scholars
for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the buillding.

A study of the black box data provided by the government to Pilots for
9/11 Truth has confirmed the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11
Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11.

"We have had four lines of proof that no Boeing 757 hit the building,"
said James Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This new study
by Pilots drives another nail into a coffin of lies told the American
people by The 9/11 Commission":

The new society, an international organization of pilots and aviation
professionals, petitioned the National Transportation Safety Board
(NTSB) under the Freedom of Information Act and obtained its 2002
report on American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 that, according to
the official account, hit the ground floor of the Pentagon after it
skimmed over the lawn at 500 mph plus, taking out a series of lamp
posts in the process.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=75

[Al Dykes]

In article om>,
Custard Cream > wrote:
>9/11 Conspiracy: No Boeing 757 Hit the Pentagon (June 21, 2007)
>
>Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government
>under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11
>Report claims hit the Pentagon.
>
>Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction,
>approach, and altitude.
>
>The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the
>Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor.
>


The black box reading is wrong, probably becuase teh hijackers didn;t
hive a **** about setting it to local value on descent from crusing
altitute where all aircraft set it to a standard value so they don't
run into each other.




`
Mike Walters
http://www.pajamasmedia.com/2007/04/speaking_truth_to_truthers.php


Statements from 100 (est) eye witnesses, all cited too full text
sources
http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html

Details of engine parts found at Pentagon
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

Black boxes recovered and analyzed
http://www.ntsb.gov/info/autopilot_AA77_UA93_study.pdf


More eye witnesses same-day reporting
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html

Transcript of CNN broadcast of 1PM 9-11, eyewitness
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.32.html

Perdue simulation of 757 impact
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html

DNA matches with family members matches all but one of Pax on Flt77
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A61202-2001Nov20?language=printer

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2006/9.11/index.html

Video of Phanton hitting wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--_RGM4Abv8
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Custard Cream]

On 8 Jul, 19:52, (Al Dykes) wrote:
> In article om>,
> Custard Cream > wrote:
>
> >9/11 Conspiracy: No Boeing 757 Hit the Pentagon (June 21, 2007)
>
> >Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government
> >under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11
> >Report claims hit the Pentagon.
>
> >Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction,
> >approach, and altitude.
>
> >The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the
> >Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor.
>
> The black box reading is wrong, probably becuase teh hijackers didn;t
> hive a **** about setting it to local value on descent from crusing
> altitute where all aircraft set it to a standard value so they don't
> run into each other.
>
> `
> Mike

We shall see.

[John R Rybock]

On Jul 8, 11:47 am, Custard Cream > wrote:
> 9/11 Conspiracy: No Boeing 757 Hit the Pentagon (June 21, 2007)
>
> Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government
> under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11
> Report claims hit the Pentagon.
>
> Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction,
> approach, and altitude.
>
> The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the
> Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor.
>
> This result confirms and strengthens the previous findings of Scholars
> for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the buillding.
>
> A study of the black box data provided by the government to Pilots for
> 9/11 Truth has confirmed the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11
> Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11.
>
> "We have had four lines of proof that no Boeing 757 hit the building,"
> said James Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This new study
> by Pilots drives another nail into a coffin of lies told the American
> people by The 9/11 Commission":
>
> The new society, an international organization of pilots and aviation
> professionals, petitioned the National Transportation Safety Board
> (NTSB) under the Freedom of Information Act and obtained its 2002
> report on American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 that, according to
> the official account, hit the ground floor of the Pentagon after it
> skimmed over the lawn at 500 mph plus, taking out a series of lamp
> posts in the process.
>
> http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=75

So, the government faked the crash, which means they faked the
blackbox data, but they faked the wrong data? I love conspiracy
theorists. They grab any bit of info they think supports their pre-
conceived notion, even if it is contradictory - See, we have the black
box data from the crash showing it there was not a crash!

[Custard Cream]

Flight 77: The Flight Data Recorder Investigation Files
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2833924626286859522

Calum Douglas presents his investigation into the flight data recorder
from Flight 77 to an audience at the Indian YMCA in Fitzroy Square,
London on 8th June 2007.

Updated 26th June 2007 with introduction and phone call transcripts.

[Al Dykes]

In article m>,
Custard Cream > wrote:
>Flight 77: The Flight Data Recorder Investigation Files
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2833924626286859522
>
>Calum Douglas presents his investigation into the flight data recorder
>from Flight 77 to an audience at the Indian YMCA in Fitzroy Square,
>London on 8th June 2007.
>
>Updated 26th June 2007 with introduction and phone call transcripts.
>


Put anything claimed in the video in the context of the huge number of
eye witnesses and physical evidence all of which is consistant with a
commercal 757 hitting the Pentagon.


--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Al Dykes]

In article m>,
Custard Cream > wrote:
>Flight 77: The Flight Data Recorder Investigation Files
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2833924626286859522
>
>Calum Douglas presents his investigation into the flight data recorder
>from Flight 77 to an audience at the Indian YMCA in Fitzroy Square,
>London on 8th June 2007.
>
>Updated 26th June 2007 with introduction and phone call transcripts.
>


Compare any claims made in this video with huge collection of eye
witnesses and physical evidence, which is consistant with a commercial
757 hitting the Pentagon.

`
Mike Walters

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1dd_1177892305

Statements from 100 (est) eye witnesses, all cited too full text
sources
http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html

Details of engine parts found at Pentagon
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

Black boxes recovered and analyzed
http://www.ntsb.gov/info/autopilot_AA77_UA93_study.pdf


More eye witnesses same-day reporting
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html

Transcript of CNN broadcast of 1PM 9-11, eyewitness
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.32.html

Perdue simulation of 757 impact
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html

DNA matches with family members matches all but one of Pax on Flt77
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A61202-2001Nov20?language=printer

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2006/9.11/index.html

Video of Phanton hitting wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--_RGM4Abv8
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[A Veteran]

In article >, (Al Dykes)
wrote:

> In article m>,
> Custard Cream > wrote:
> >Flight 77: The Flight Data Recorder Investigation Files
> >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2833924626286859522
> >
> >Calum Douglas presents his investigation into the flight data recorder
> >from Flight 77 to an audience at the Indian YMCA in Fitzroy Square,
> >London on 8th June 2007.
> >
> >Updated 26th June 2007 with introduction and phone call transcripts.
> >
>
>
> Put anything claimed in the video in the context of the huge number of
> eye witnesses and physical evidence all of which is consistant with a
> commercal 757 hitting the Pentagon.

and check out his site;

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070707/ts_nm/france_sept11_dc;_ylt=AiaZEdBUQ
fCDeM20xcsUVRxvaA8F

--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
All problems look like nails.

[Billzz]

"A Veteran" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, (Al Dykes)
> wrote:
>
>> In article m>,
>> Custard Cream > wrote:
>> >Flight 77: The Flight Data Recorder Investigation Files
>> >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2833924626286859522
>> >
>> >Calum Douglas presents his investigation into the flight data recorder
>> >from Flight 77 to an audience at the Indian YMCA in Fitzroy Square,
>> >London on 8th June 2007.
>> >
>> >Updated 26th June 2007 with introduction and phone call transcripts.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Put anything claimed in the video in the context of the huge number of
>> eye witnesses and physical evidence all of which is consistant with a
>> commercal 757 hitting the Pentagon.
>
> and check out his site;
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070707/ts_nm/france_sept11_dc;_ylt=AiaZEdBUQ
> fCDeM20xcsUVRxvaA8F
>
> --
> when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
> All problems look like nails.

But my other tools are a screwdriver, hot metal plating dip, and an ink gun.
So my problems can be screwed, blued, and tattooed

[John Carrier]

SNIP

> Compare any claims made in this video with huge collection of eye
> witnesses and physical evidence, which is consistant with a commercial
> 757 hitting the Pentagon.

And a rather obvious question: If the Pentagon were NOT hit by AAL flight
77, just where did that 757 go?

R / John

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

John Carrier wrote:
> SNIP
>
>> Compare any claims made in this video with huge collection of eye
>> witnesses and physical evidence, which is consistant with a commercial
>> 757 hitting the Pentagon.
>
> And a rather obvious question: If the Pentagon were NOT hit by AAL flight
> 77, just where did that 757 go?
>
> R / John
>
>
If there's one thing I've learned about these conspiracy people, it's
that there is nothing.....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING....that will alter their
thinking or change their mind.
The 101 reasoning for this is that it's not the incident at all that is
in question with them, it's how the incident plays into their overall
agenda as a tool....simple really.
To them, there is only the agenda.
Discussing a specific incident with them based on fact and intelligence
is a lesson in utter futility.
The message here is that they don't actually care about the counter
argument as it doesn't fit the agenda. :-))
Dudley Henriques

[Larry Cauble]

Can someone go get some more tin foil? We're gonna need more tin foil.

In fact, take a pickup truck because we are defintely gonna need a very, very large amount of tin foil for this job.

[Bob McKellar[_2_]]

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
...
> John Carrier wrote:
>> SNIP
>>
>>> Compare any claims made in this video with huge collection of eye
>>> witnesses and physical evidence, which is consistant with a commercial
>>> 757 hitting the Pentagon.
>>
>> And a rather obvious question: If the Pentagon were NOT hit by AAL flight
>> 77, just where did that 757 go?
>>
>> R / John
> If there's one thing I've learned about these conspiracy people, it's that
> there is nothing.....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING....that will alter their thinking
> or change their mind.
> The 101 reasoning for this is that it's not the incident at all that is in
> question with them, it's how the incident plays into their overall agenda
> as a tool....simple really.
> To them, there is only the agenda.
> Discussing a specific incident with them based on fact and intelligence is
> a lesson in utter futility.
> The message here is that they don't actually care about the counter
> argument as it doesn't fit the agenda. :-))
> Dudley Henriques

On the other hand....
We haven't had to listen to XXX999 theories for the last 6 years.

Bob McKellar

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

Bob McKellar wrote:
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
> ...
>> John Carrier wrote:
>>> SNIP
>>>
>>>> Compare any claims made in this video with huge collection of eye
>>>> witnesses and physical evidence, which is consistant with a commercial
>>>> 757 hitting the Pentagon.
>>> And a rather obvious question: If the Pentagon were NOT hit by AAL flight
>>> 77, just where did that 757 go?
>>>
>>> R / John
>> If there's one thing I've learned about these conspiracy people, it's that
>> there is nothing.....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING....that will alter their thinking
>> or change their mind.
>> The 101 reasoning for this is that it's not the incident at all that is in
>> question with them, it's how the incident plays into their overall agenda
>> as a tool....simple really.
>> To them, there is only the agenda.
>> Discussing a specific incident with them based on fact and intelligence is
>> a lesson in utter futility.
>> The message here is that they don't actually care about the counter
>> argument as it doesn't fit the agenda. :-))
>> Dudley Henriques
>
> On the other hand....
> We haven't had to listen to XXX999 theories for the last 6 years.
>
> Bob McKellar
>
>

Theirs or mine :-)
DH