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Troy24
July 14th 07, 06:26 PM

Bruce R
July 14th 07, 07:04 PM
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So where is the exhanust from the engines vented to?? Must be bloody noisy
in the cabin too eh??


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Oviedo
July 14th 07, 10:07 PM
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Over the top of the wings

Eric The Red[_2_]
July 14th 07, 10:23 PM
I saw this airplane demonstrated at the RAF Mildenhall Air Show in 1977. It
was a brilliant airplane: very quiet and agile. It could land in a few
hundred feet, back up and takeoff again in just about the same landing
distance.


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Dave Kearton
July 15th 07, 12:29 AM
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David Powell
July 15th 07, 03:37 AM
it was called the "coda" effect high lift and take off at 100 feet...
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Guybrush Threepwood[_2_]
July 15th 07, 10:03 AM
Isn't that a little dangerous in the "one engine off" case?

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Ron Monroe
July 16th 07, 04:30 AM
That is what a NASA engineer told me too. I spoke to him during an SAE
conference several years ago. NASA was involved in the analization of both
the YC-14 and YC-15. During takeoff and landing, symetrical lift is
critical. This engine out scenario contributed to McDonnel's "winning" the
competition, although there was no production contract. The design
requirements changed, and the designs were recompeted with an aircraft large
enough to carry an M-1 tank. This led to the C-17. Boeing's entry was a 3
engine variant of the YC-14.
Ron

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Andrew-S
July 16th 07, 09:36 AM
The embarrassing thing for me is that I saw both of these aircraft as couple
of years ago at the Davis Monthan AFB Bone Yards and at the nearby Pima Air
and Space Museum. I say embarrassing because I thought it would be
interesting for people to see them as they are today. Unfortunately either
I didn't take any shots of them or I misplaced the files.


DAMN IT!!!


Andrew


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Steve Vernon
July 16th 07, 05:28 PM
Here's the pic i took in 2003 of the YC-14

Steve Vernon


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> The embarrassing thing for me is that I saw both of these aircraft as
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> of years ago at the Davis Monthan AFB Bone Yards and at the nearby Pima
> Air
> and Space Museum. I say embarrassing because I thought it would be
> interesting for people to see them as they are today. Unfortunately
> either
> I didn't take any shots of them or I misplaced the files.
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Ron Monroe
July 16th 07, 08:53 PM
That YC-15 isn't there anymore. Boeing took it for research on a tailless
vertical takeoff transport. I think it was supposed to be a tilt wing. They
must have wanted the bigger wing, because the other YC-15 is still at D.M..
How far Boeing got, I don't know, but, the contract money was taken away.
This is the other YC-15, with the picture taken through a buss window, in
2004. And, the YC-14, also at D.M.

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> The embarrassing thing for me is that I saw both of these aircraft as
> couple
> of years ago at the Davis Monthan AFB Bone Yards and at the nearby Pima
> Air
> and Space Museum. I say embarrassing because I thought it would be
> interesting for people to see them as they are today. Unfortunately
> either
> I didn't take any shots of them or I misplaced the files.
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> DAMN IT!!!
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redc1c4
July 17th 07, 08:05 AM
DAN wrote:
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> David Powell wrote:
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> >it was called the "coda" effect high lift and take off at 100 feet...
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> You mean CoANda effect, after Henri Coanda.
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> And actually, for this particular plane, boeing called it "USB".
> Upper Surface Blowing.

any port in a storm, when it comes to aircraft design, eh?

redc1c4,
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Bob Harrington
July 18th 07, 08:12 AM

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