Argetina - Gliding in the 5th Dimension - 3,000 km in a glider DVD...

[Oscar S Alonso]

RAS group,

I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few weeks ago. An amazing
flight and DVD, I am very
happy with my purchase.

I am trying to figure out who did the music at is used at the end of
the flight during the
landing. Any help would be apreciated.

Oscar Alonso

[Nyal Williams]

Unless it is a string quartet, it is too trashy to
accompany a glider in flight!

Now, there's a troll for you. <grin>

At 13:00 16 July 2007, Oscar S Alonso wrote:
>RAS group,
>
>I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few weeks
>ago. An amazing
>flight and DVD, I am very
>happy with my purchase.
>
>I am trying to figure out who did the music at is used
>at the end of
>the flight during the
>landing. Any help would be apreciated.
>
>Oscar Alonso
>
>
>
>

[Bruce]

OK I will bite -
String quartets are nice - but there has to be some baroque.

So in my books - for gliding musinc - No Euphonium means maximum score can't
exceed 70%... (look on wikipedia if you have to)

Nyal Williams wrote:
> Unless it is a string quartet, it is too trashy to
> accompany a glider in flight!
>
> Now, there's a troll for you. <grin>
>
> At 13:00 16 July 2007, Oscar S Alonso wrote:
>> RAS group,
>>
>> I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few weeks
>> ago. An amazing
>> flight and DVD, I am very
>> happy with my purchase.
>>
>> I am trying to figure out who did the music at is used
>> at the end of
>> the flight during the
>> landing. Any help would be apreciated.
>>
>> Oscar Alonso
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

[Nyal Williams]

Specifically, I would recommend the Debussy quartet.

Now, what is this about Wikipedia, and under what should
I look?
(I am a musicologist by profession)

At 16:06 16 July 2007, Bruce wrote:
>OK I will bite -
>String quartets are nice - but there has to be some
>baroque.
>
>So in my books - for gliding musinc - No Euphonium
>means maximum score can't
>exceed 70%... (look on wikipedia if you have to)
>
>Nyal Williams wrote:
>> Unless it is a string quartet, it is too trashy to
>> accompany a glider in flight!
>>
>> Now, there's a troll for you.
>>
>> At 13:00 16 July 2007, Oscar S Alonso wrote:
>>> RAS group,
>>>
>>> I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few weeks
>>> ago. An amazing
>>> flight and DVD, I am very
>>> happy with my purchase.
>>>
>>> I am trying to figure out who did the music at is
>>>used
>>> at the end of
>>> the flight during the
>>> landing. Any help would be apreciated.
>>>
>>> Oscar Alonso
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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On Jul 16, 1:18?pm, Nyal Williams
> wrote:
> Specifically, I would recommend the Debussy quartet.
>
> Now, what is this about Wikipedia, and under what should
> I look?
> (I am a musicologist by profession)
>
> At 16:06 16 July 2007, Bruce wrote:
>
>
>
> >OK I will bite -
> >String quartets are nice - but there has to be some
> >baroque.
>
> >So in my books - for gliding musinc - No Euphonium
> >means maximum score can't
> >exceed 70%... (look on wikipedia if you have to)
>
> >Nyal Williams wrote:
> >> Unless it is a string quartet, it is too trashy to
> >> accompany a glider in flight!
>
> >> Now, there's a troll for you.
>
> >> At 13:00 16 July 2007, Oscar S Alonso wrote:
> >>> RAS group,
>
> >>> I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few weeks
> >>> ago. An amazing
> >>> flight and DVD, I am very
> >>> happy with my purchase.
>
> >>> I am trying to figure out who did the music at is
> >>>used
> >>> at the end of
> >>> the flight during the
> >>> landing. Any help would be apreciated.
>
> >>> Oscar Alonso- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Impressionistic is TOO ...well..dreamy (Debussy). Not sure about
quartets, either. Wagner, Mahler, or Holst would do much
better.........after all, I too am a professional musician. Funny how
the right brained are drawn to the sport.

As for a Euphonium (or baritone as my students are inclined to call
the instrument), depends on the style. I can just imagine ol/ Phillip
Wills racing off to the sounds of an English brass factory band.

Gary
GE8

[Sally W]

At 17:24 16 July 2007, Nyal Williams wrote:
>Specifically, I would recommend the Debussy quartet.
<snip>

How about Eric Satie's Gymnopodies (sorry if I spelt
that wrong)? And I feel there must be something appropriate
somewhere in Schubert's works.

[Sally W]

At 17:24 16 July 2007, Nyal Williams wrote:
>Specifically, I would recommend the Debussy quartet.
<snip>

How about Eric Satie's Gymnopodies (sorry if I spelt
that wrong)? And I feel there must be something appropriate
somewhere in Schubert's works.

[Sally W]

At 20:24 16 July 2007, wrote:
<snip>
>As for a Euphonium (or baritone as my students are
>inclined to call
>the instrument),

Not the same thing in the UK...
http://www.bandsman.co.uk/writing_l.htm#Instrumentation

>depends on the style. I can just imagine ol/ Phillip
>Wills racing off to the sounds of an English brass
>factory band.

Many were formed not among factories but at coal mines
and the miner's clubs & welfares, and in Scotland and
Wales as well as England. Also, some call themselves
Silver Bands rather than Brass Bands.

However in this day and age most of the factories and
just about all the mines have closed. Thankfully some
of the bands live on, but I suspect some died, or died
when they needed new instruments. BTW I don't think
there have ever been many brass factories in England...
:)

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On Jul 16, 5:05?pm, Sally W >
wrote:
> At 20:24 16 July 2007, wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >As for a Euphonium (or baritone as my students are
> >inclined to call
> >the instrument),
>
> Not the same thing in the UK...http://www.bandsman.co.uk/writing_l.htm#Instrumentation
>
> >depends on the style. I can just imagine ol/ Phillip
> >Wills racing off to the sounds of an English brass
> >factory band.
>
> Many were formed not among factories but at coal mines
> and the miner's clubs & welfares, and in Scotland and
> Wales as well as England. Also, some call themselves
> Silver Bands rather than Brass Bands.
>
> However in this day and age most of the factories and
> just about all the mines have closed. Thankfully some
> of the bands live on, but I suspect some died, or died
> when they needed new instruments. BTW I don't think
> there have ever been many brass factories in England...
> :)

Sally,

Yes, I know the difference, but "baritone" just sounds more "normal"
to high school kids. Alas, here in the states, baritone and euphonium
are almost interchangable in our band lit.

Agree that Satie would be good in the winter riding wave; definately
Wagner in the rotor. Mahler's 1st symphony (Titan) would be my choice
for ridge running.

Gary
GE8

[Shawn[_3_]]

wrote:
> On Jul 16, 1:18?pm, Nyal Williams
> > wrote:
>> Specifically, I would recommend the Debussy quartet.
>>
>> Now, what is this about Wikipedia, and under what should
>> I look?
>> (I am a musicologist by profession)
>>
>> At 16:06 16 July 2007, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> OK I will bite -
>>> String quartets are nice - but there has to be some
>>> baroque.
>>> So in my books - for gliding musinc - No Euphonium
>>> means maximum score can't
>>> exceed 70%... (look on wikipedia if you have to)
>>> Nyal Williams wrote:
>>>> Unless it is a string quartet, it is too trashy to
>>>> accompany a glider in flight!
>>>> Now, there's a troll for you.
>>>> At 13:00 16 July 2007, Oscar S Alonso wrote:
>>>>> RAS group,
>>>>> I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few weeks
>>>>> ago. An amazing
>>>>> flight and DVD, I am very
>>>>> happy with my purchase.
>>>>> I am trying to figure out who did the music at is
>>>>> used
>>>>> at the end of
>>>>> the flight during the
>>>>> landing. Any help would be apreciated.
>>>>> Oscar Alonso- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Impressionistic is TOO ...well..dreamy (Debussy). Not sure about
> quartets, either. Wagner, Mahler, or Holst would do much
> better

snip

Yikes!

Ancient classics just don't work for me over videos of glider flight.
How about Joe Satriani's "Ice Nine" or The Vince Guaraldi Trio's
"Skating" from A Charlie Brown Christmas? Or any number of Philip
Glass* compositions? Brian Eno? C'mon I mean "Music for Airports"!
I'd even take Blur's "Song 2" (cough) before something written by some
fossil born before aviation ;-)


Shawn


*You other music geeky types might appreciate:
http://www.philipglass.com/html/pages/jokes.html

[Nyal Williams]

You probably think of soaring as a competitive venture
that would require edgy music. Most of my memories
of it after 50 years indulgence is wafting around with
light wingloading in something like a Ka-6. That suits
the Debussy music better. I started in an SG-38 and
fly a Discus B now, but most of my time has been spent
as an instructor in Schweizer 2-33s and in Blanik L-23s.

Now, Bruce, what did you want us to learn in Wikipedia?

At 23:42 16 July 2007, Shawn wrote:
wrote:
>> On Jul 16, 1:18?pm, Nyal Williams
>> wrote:
>>> Specifically, I would recommend the Debussy quartet.
>>>
>>> Now, what is this about Wikipedia, and under what
>>>should
>>> I look?
>>> (I am a musicologist by profession)
>>>
>>> At 16:06 16 July 2007, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> OK I will bite -
>>>> String quartets are nice - but there has to be some
>>>> baroque.
>>>> So in my books - for gliding musinc - No Euphonium
>>>> means maximum score can't
>>>> exceed 70%... (look on wikipedia if you have to)
>>>> Nyal Williams wrote:
>>>>> Unless it is a string quartet, it is too trashy to
>>>>> accompany a glider in flight!
>>>>> Now, there's a troll for you.
>>>>> At 13:00 16 July 2007, Oscar S Alonso wrote:
>>>>>> RAS group,
>>>>>> I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few
>>>>>>weeks
>>>>>> ago. An amazing
>>>>>> flight and DVD, I am very
>>>>>> happy with my purchase.
>>>>>> I am trying to figure out who did the music at
>>>>>>is
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> at the end of
>>>>>> the flight during the
>>>>>> landing. Any help would be apreciated.
>>>>>> Oscar Alonso- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Impressionistic is TOO ...well..dreamy (Debussy).
>>Not sure about
>> quartets, either. Wagner, Mahler, or Holst would do
>>much
>> better
>
>snip
>
>Yikes!
>
>Ancient classics just don't work for me over videos
>of glider flight.
>How about Joe Satriani's 'Ice Nine' or The Vince Guaraldi
>Trio's
>'Skating' from A Charlie Brown Christmas? Or any number
>of Philip
>Glass* compositions? Brian Eno? C'mon I mean 'Music
>for Airports'!
>I'd even take Blur's 'Song 2' (cough) before something
>written by some
>fossil born before aviation ;-)
>
>
>Shawn
>
>
>*You other music geeky types might appreciate:
>http://www.philipglass.com/html/pages/jokes.html
>

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On Jul 16, 8:21 am, Nyal Williams
> wrote:
> Unless it is a string quartet, it is too trashy to
> accompany a glider in flight!
>
> Now, there's a troll for you. <grin>
>
> At 13:00 16 July 2007, Oscar S Alonso wrote:
>
> >RAS group,
>
> >I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few weeks
> >ago. An amazing
> >flight and DVD, I am very
> >happy with my purchase.
>
> >I am trying to figure out who did the music at is used
> >at the end of
> >the flight during the
> >landing. Any help would be apreciated.
>
> >Oscar Alonso

Anyone who has seen Tom Valentine's short film on soaring knows that
James Taylor's Slipping Away has very nice music and some lyrics (but
not all) that are a good match to soaring!
SP AM

[Bruce]

Hi Nyal

I know your profession, hence the tease about the Euphonium. (where the USA is
the home of the unique double belled version)

Wikipedia has a good article on them for those who don't know what it is. -
Summary, the brass equivalent of the cello - Conical bored baritone/tenor range
Bb. Far too civilized to be trashy - except when used in marching bands. Tormod
Flaten is a good example of what the instrument can / should do.

I like the romantic era composers, but Vivaldi and Bach are more appropriate to
soaring. "Music which is melodious yet so constructed as to reflect the "perfect
order" of the universe: that is the essence of the baroque."


Nyal Williams wrote:
> Specifically, I would recommend the Debussy quartet.
>
> Now, what is this about Wikipedia, and under what should
> I look?
> (I am a musicologist by profession)
>
> At 16:06 16 July 2007, Bruce wrote:
>> OK I will bite -
>> String quartets are nice - but there has to be some
>> baroque.
>>
>> So in my books - for gliding musinc - No Euphonium
>> means maximum score can't
>> exceed 70%... (look on wikipedia if you have to)
>>
>> Nyal Williams wrote:
>>> Unless it is a string quartet, it is too trashy to
>>> accompany a glider in flight!
>>>
>>> Now, there's a troll for you.
>>>
>>> At 13:00 16 July 2007, Oscar S Alonso wrote:
>>>> RAS group,
>>>>
>>>> I purchased this DVD from Cumulus Soaring a few weeks
>>>> ago. An amazing
>>>> flight and DVD, I am very
>>>> happy with my purchase.
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to figure out who did the music at is
>>>> used
>>>> at the end of
>>>> the flight during the
>>>> landing. Any help would be apreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Oscar Alonso
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

[Bruce]

> Impressionistic is TOO ...well..dreamy (Debussy). Not sure about
> quartets, either. Wagner, Mahler, or Holst would do much
> better.........after all, I too am a professional musician. Funny how
> the right brained are drawn to the sport.
>
> As for a Euphonium (or baritone as my students are inclined to call
> the instrument), depends on the style. I can just imagine ol/ Phillip
> Wills racing off to the sounds of an English brass factory band.
>
> Gary
> GE8
>

Now there's a thought - Williams Fairey Band - something like the "Land of the
Mountain and the Flood" would probably do it.

If we have to have a string quartet maybe the Soweto String Quartet? Certainly
composed recently (post 1992) - even on Wikipedia - although you have to listen
to it to understand. Fusion of African Jazz, Kwela, and traditional tunes
arranged for a string quartet.

Maybe pennywhistle - try Spokes Mashiane. Now that's eclectic, ebullient and
lots of other polysyllabic e- words.

Bruce

[Sally W]

At 21:48 16 July 2007, wrote:
<snip>

>Agree that Satie would be good in the winter riding
>wave; definately
>Wagner in the rotor. Mahler's 1st symphony (Titan)
>would be my choice
>for ridge running.

Wagner is also my music of choice for the T21 - imagine
it with a pair of speakers to make sure the local paragliders
get full benefit. The other music for the T21 is marches
- Dambusters, 633 Squadron and their ilk. Both T21s
I've seen have RAF roundels which is partly where the
feel for the marches comes from.

So many of the gliding videos have edgy pounding music
and it reminds me of DJs on the radio busy telling
me I'm having a good time. If someone is having to
tell me I'm probably not. I'm wth Nyal that the general
feel of gliding music is calm, flowing, a touch ethereal.
Some of the Bach solo cello & violin music also has
the right feel.