Advise please--- Air to air with a very big bird.

[Andrew-S]

Hello,
In this NG we have some really top rate shooters, and I am looking for advise for a current commercial shoot that I am working on right now...

My problem is that though I have done air to air with helicopters, and a host of other smaller aircraft. I have never done it with a large commercial jet flying in a clean configuration (as in no dropped flaps etc.). Which is what I maybe called upon to do in the next couple of months. I was thinking about renting a T6 Texan, but I seriously doubt that he could maintain the air speed (approx.180kts), another idea was to use a helicopter, and have the jet cross our T (obviously at very different altitudes). I was also wondering about renting a B25, but to the best of my knowledge there are none available in the North East Corridor of the US for hire on super short notice, added to which the price for the shoot could very easily hit 5 or 6 thousand per hour. My needs are for clear air no glass shots, and obviously I will need to strap on a harness (again not a problem because I have done it many times before). Kit I have, Bravery I have, but the platform is the question mark and that is my current dilemma.

Beyond the obvious bad jokes, does anybody have any suggestions and/or experience with these types of shoots that they could share???

And before anyone asks yes my insurance is paid up, and my beneficiaries are already named.

Andrew

[Shiver]

Rent a King Air.... Remove door, strap yourself in, start shooting.

T-6 B-25 good griefy.... rent something modern with the oooommmmpppphhh
to keep up.

Maybe even a lear jet.. etc.

There has to be some company out there that would know exactly what you
need and be able to supply the right plane.

Have fun.... Obviously everyone in the group is probably green with
envy.

POST PICTURES.

[Proton Fox]

shiver > wrote in news:170720071857051106%
:


> T-6 B-25 good griefy.... rent something modern with the oooommmmpppphhh
> to keep up.

Lot of air-to-air work is done with B-25's...

http://www.airtoair.net/meetpb/B25/b25.htm

[MomDude]

"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
wrote:

>Hello,
>In this NG we have some really top rate shooters, and I am looking for advise for a current commercial shoot that I am working on right now...
>
> My problem is that though I have done air to air with helicopters, and a host of other smaller aircraft. I have never done it with a large commercial jet flying in a clean configuration (as in no dropped flaps etc.). Which is what I maybe called upon to do in the next couple of months. I was thinking about renting a T6 Texan, but I seriously doubt that he could maintain the air speed (approx.180kts), another idea was to use a helicopter, and have the jet cross our T (obviously at very different altitudes). I was also wondering about renting a B25, but to the best of my knowledge there are none available in the North East Corridor of the US for hire on super short notice, added to which the price for the shoot could very easily hit 5 or 6 thousand per hour. My needs are for clear air no glass shots, and obviously I will need to strap on a harness (again not a problem because I have done it many times before). Kit I have, Bravery I have, but the platform is the question mark
>and that is my current dilemma.
>
>Beyond the obvious bad jokes, does anybody have any suggestions and/or experience with these types of shoots that they could share???
>
>And before anyone asks yes my insurance is paid up, and my beneficiaries are already named.
>
>Andrew
>
>

Have you talked to Brian Terwilliger, Kevin Larosa, and the other
folks who did "One Six Right"?

http://www.onesixright.com/

Lots of truly spectacular air to air photography, done with a
helicopter. (Photo attached was taken at their tour finale showing
at Van Nuys late last year.) I don't know if it can hit the kinds of
speeds and/or altitudes that you need, but they obviously have some
considerable expertise in the area.

MomDude

[Andrew-S]

A VERY VERY cool link that certainly needs further exploration.

I will say one thing though they are in league well beyond me though...

Many Thanks!!!.

Andrew


"MomDude" <pwillettATixDOTnetcomDOTcom@> wrote in message
...
> "Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>In this NG we have some really top rate shooters, and I am looking for
>>advise for a current commercial shoot that I am working on right now...
>>
>> My problem is that though I have done air to air with helicopters, and a
>> host of other smaller aircraft. I have never done it with a large
>> commercial jet flying in a clean configuration (as in no dropped flaps
>> etc.). Which is what I maybe called upon to do in the next couple of
>> months. I was thinking about renting a T6 Texan, but I seriously doubt
>> that he could maintain the air speed (approx.180kts), another idea was to
>> use a helicopter, and have the jet cross our T (obviously at very
>> different altitudes). I was also wondering about renting a B25, but to
>> the best of my knowledge there are none available in the North East
>> Corridor of the US for hire on super short notice, added to which the
>> price for the shoot could very easily hit 5 or 6 thousand per hour. My
>> needs are for clear air no glass shots, and obviously I will need to
>> strap on a harness (again not a problem because I have done it many times
>> before). Kit I have, Bravery I have, but the platform is the question
>> mark
>>and that is my current dilemma.
>>
>>Beyond the obvious bad jokes, does anybody have any suggestions and/or
>>experience with these types of shoots that they could share???
>>
>>And before anyone asks yes my insurance is paid up, and my beneficiaries
>>are already named.
>>
>>Andrew
>>
>>
>
> Have you talked to Brian Terwilliger, Kevin Larosa, and the other
> folks who did "One Six Right"?
>
> http://www.onesixright.com/
>
> Lots of truly spectacular air to air photography, done with a
> helicopter. (Photo attached was taken at their tour finale showing
> at Van Nuys late last year.) I don't know if it can hit the kinds of
> speeds and/or altitudes that you need, but they obviously have some
> considerable expertise in the area.
>
> MomDude

[E.D.]

Clay Lacey uses a modified Lear. He's somewhere in Southern California if I
remember correctly.


"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com> wrote in
message ...
Hello,
In this NG we have some really top rate shooters, and I am looking for
advise for a current commercial shoot that I am working on right now...

My problem is that though I have done air to air with helicopters, and a
host of other smaller aircraft. I have never done it with a large
commercial jet flying in a clean configuration (as in no dropped flaps
etc.). Which is what I maybe called upon to do in the next couple of
months. I was thinking about renting a T6 Texan, but I seriously doubt that
he could maintain the air speed (approx.180kts), another idea was to use a
helicopter, and have the jet cross our T (obviously at very different
altitudes). I was also wondering about renting a B25, but to the best of my
knowledge there are none available in the North East Corridor of the US for
hire on super short notice, added to which the price for the shoot could
very easily hit 5 or 6 thousand per hour. My needs are for clear air no
glass shots, and obviously I will need to strap on a harness (again not a
problem because I have done it many times before). Kit I have, Bravery I
have, but the platform is the question mark and that is my current dilemma.

Beyond the obvious bad jokes, does anybody have any suggestions and/or
experience with these types of shoots that they could share???

And before anyone asks yes my insurance is paid up, and my beneficiaries are
already named.

Andrew

[Al G[_2_]]

"E.D." > wrote in message
et...
> Clay Lacey uses a modified Lear. He's somewhere in Southern California if
> I remember correctly.
>
>
Van Nuys.

Al G