Wi-Fi at OSH

[Dave Butler]

I've done a little prep and found some potential wireless hotspots
within about a mile or so of the North 40. Here's my list, in case it's
helpful to anyone else:

Locations on Koeller: from the N40, go W to US41, then N to Koeller.

Fairfield Inn Oshkosh
1800 S Koeller St 920-233-8504

Applebee's Neighborhood Grill and Bar
1700 S Koeller St 920-231-8770

The Cafe at Basic
1622 S. Koeller Street 920-231-1177

The UPS Store #01250
1528a S Koeller Rd 920-231-1623

Starbucks Oshkosh Hwy 41 & 9TH
1150A Koeller Street 920-231-7208

Hawthorn Oshkosh Hotel Suites
3105 S. Washburn Street 920-303-1133
From N40, go W to US41, then S to hotel.

"Hilton Garden Inns has complimentary access available in the hotel
public areas and guestrooms of many locations. Check with each
location for availability."

[CheckerBird]

Any public Wi-Fi hotspots to be available anywhere on the field
itself?

If not, at least I have a Verizon aircard in my laptop, although I'm
wondering about the wisdom of lugging my laptop around in my backpack
all day.

[john smith[_2_]]

In article >,
CheckerBird > wrote:

> Any public Wi-Fi hotspots to be available anywhere on the field
> itself?
>
> If not, at least I have a Verizon aircard in my laptop, although I'm
> wondering about the wisdom of lugging my laptop around in my backpack
> all day.

I logged onto the Hilton site from the North 40 to check weather radar
before departing last year.

[Jay Honeck]

> I logged onto the Hilton site from the North 40 to check weather radar
> before departing last year.

BTW -- this is another priceless thing about Nexrad radar in the
plane. Mary and I will turn on the 496, drink a cup of coffee, and
before we're through we will have more weather information in the
plane than ANY flight service briefer could provide.

I may not be thrilled with Garmin's performance -- but I absolutely
won't fly without weather in the plane again...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

On Jul 18, 1:35 pm, Dave Butler > wrote:
> I've done a little prep and found some potential wireless hotspots
> within about a mile or so of the North 40. Here's my list, in case it's
> helpful to anyone else:

Here's a map of Wi-fi hot spots at AirVenture:

http://airventure.org/2007/planning/images/wifi_hotspots.jpg
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bob Fry]

Speaking of wi-fi and lugging laptops...check out the tablet Nokia
770, now at buy.com
http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-770-internet-tablet-internet-tablet-2006-software-edition/q/loc/101/204081472.html

I have one from Woot! and it's great for traveling. Load
gizmo-project, a VOIP service like Skype, and you can even make free
or cheap international phone calls.
--
"I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the
Iraqis had nuclear weapons." --Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, June
24, 2003

[Jay Honeck]

> Speaking of wi-fi and lugging laptops...check out the tablet Nokia
> 770, now at buy.comhttp://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-770-internet-tablet-internet-tablet-200...

That's pretty slick. Heck, at that price, we could put one in every
suite...

I'd want a keyboard for my personal use, though...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Blueskies]

"Bob Fry" > wrote in message ...
> Speaking of wi-fi and lugging laptops...check out the tablet Nokia
> 770, now at buy.com
> http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-770-internet-tablet-internet-tablet-2006-software-edition/q/loc/101/204081472.html
>
> I have one from Woot! and it's great for traveling. Load
> gizmo-project, a VOIP service like Skype, and you can even make free
> or cheap international phone calls.
> --


Any way it could do GPS?

[Bob Fry]

>>>>> "Blueskies" == Blueskies > writes:
>> Speaking of wi-fi and lugging laptops...check out the tablet
>> Nokia 770, now at buy.com
>> http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-770-internet-tablet-internet-tablet-2006-software-edition/q/loc/101/204081472.html
>>
>> I have one from Woot! and it's great for traveling. Load
>> gizmo-project, a VOIP service like Skype, and you can even make
>> free or cheap international phone calls. --


Blueskies> Any way it could do GPS?

Yes. You need a Bluetooth GPS receiver and some extra, free BT drivers
from the Nokia 770 software site. The catch is the mapping program.
The 770 is Linux, so there probably is not an aviation oriented map
for it.

--
You know you've achieved perfection in design, not when you have
nothing more to add, but when you have nothing more to take away.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery, Wind, Sand and Stars

[Mike Adams[_2_]]

Jay Honeck > wrote:

> On Jul 18, 1:35 pm, Dave Butler > wrote:
>> I've done a little prep and found some potential wireless hotspots
>> within about a mile or so of the North 40. Here's my list, in case it's
>> helpful to anyone else:
>
> Here's a map of Wi-fi hot spots at AirVenture:
>
> http://airventure.org/2007/planning/images/wifi_hotspots.jpg

So, I'm curious how this new service worked out. Was it free? How was the access from the North 40? I
wasn't there this year, but can see that this would be very handy for email and weather briefings. Then I
suppose the next challenge will be keeping the laptop batteries charged.

Mike

[Darrel Toepfer]

Jay Honeck > wrote:

> http://airventure.org/2007/planning/images/wifi_hotspots.jpg

I mapped them with Ministumbler in my PocketPC, there were far more
available than what was shown...

[Darrel Toepfer]

Mike Adams > wrote:

> So, I'm curious how this new service worked out. Was it free? How was
> the access from the North 40? I wasn't there this year, but can see
> that this would be very handy for email and weather briefings. Then I
> suppose the next challenge will be keeping the laptop batteries
> charged.

When you first attempted to pull a webpage, a page popped up that had
you agree to the EAA rules of useage, after that you were never asked
again, so it was probably tracking your MAC address...

Sometimes it worked well, other times it didn't (like trying to pull
some Nexrad when the storms came up on Wednesday). Also I couldn't get
service from the EAA from Jay's camping spot (right at the red light), I
did pull data from the hotel nearby though. Just not enough signal
coming all the way from the Red Barn...

I bought an extra 2100ma battery from a vendor there for my Axim for
$20, I have 12vdc and 120vac chargers, so keeping it peaked wasn't a
problem driving to/from and staying at the B&B in Waupaca...

[Darrel Toepfer]

"Blueskies" > wrote:

> Any way it could do GPS?

"Maemo mapper is a great tool for the people who get lost and it pairs
with most std BT-GPS receivers. A 2GB RS-MMC card(now compatible) can be
used to store maps and other data(music/videos)."

Mapping Software - Free
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/maemo-mapper

BlueTooth GPS - $38 + Shipping
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=WHT-BT-5&cat=GPS

1 Gig RS-MMC - $21.85 with Free Shipping
http://www.oempcworld.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Product_Code=DV-RS-MMC1024
or http://tinyurl.com/2u5x9o


On a side note, I prefer Skype over Gizmo Project for VOIP though:
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux

I dunno if its compatible...

[Ray Andraka]

Mike Adams wrote:

>
> So, I'm curious how this new service worked out. Was it free? How was the access from the North 40? I
> wasn't there this year, but can see that this would be very handy for email and weather briefings. Then I
> suppose the next challenge will be keeping the laptop batteries charged.
>
> Mike

I was camped a few planes down from Jay, along the fence across the road
from Carpet World. I had no problem getting a wi-fi connection to the
EAA hot-spot with my Sony Vaio T350P, which has a built in 802.11g. The
problem was once you did connect, it got incredibly slow at times,
especially when the storms were coming in. Access was excellent at
off-times however. I couldn't see the Hilton or super-8 hot spots from
my airplane, but if I moved in toward the perimeter road on the airport,
I could see both. I did not have success connecting to either though.

The Sony battery is good for up to 9 hours depending on drive use.
"John Smith" was kind enough to buy a Honda 1KW generator and bring it
over for recharging laptops, cell phones and Garmins (thanks "John").
The power strip was fully populated most of the time he had the
generator running.

[Bob Fry]

>>>>> "DT" == Darrel Toepfer > writes:

DT> On a side note, I prefer Skype over Gizmo Project for VOIP
DT> though: http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux

DT> I dunno if its compatible...

Only for Nokia's N800, the model supplanting the 770. Though it's
possible the 770 may also enjoy Skype with a new OS which may come out
later this year.
--
When discovered by his wife, kissing the maid, Groucho said "I was
just whispering in her mouth"
Groucho Marx

[john smith[_2_]]

> Mike Adams wrote:
> > So, I'm curious how this new service worked out. Was it free? How was the
> > access from the North 40? I
> > wasn't there this year, but can see that this would be very handy for email
> > and weather briefings. Then I
> > suppose the next challenge will be keeping the laptop batteries charged.
> > Mike

> Ray Andraka > wrote:
> I was camped a few planes down from Jay, along the fence across the road
> from Carpet World. I had no problem getting a wi-fi connection to the
> EAA hot-spot with my Sony Vaio T350P, which has a built in 802.11g. The
> problem was once you did connect, it got incredibly slow at times,
> especially when the storms were coming in. Access was excellent at
> off-times however. I couldn't see the Hilton or super-8 hot spots from
> my airplane, but if I moved in toward the perimeter road on the airport,
> I could see both. I did not have success connecting to either though.
> The Sony battery is good for up to 9 hours depending on drive use.
> "John Smith" was kind enough to buy a Honda 1KW generator and bring it
> over for recharging laptops, cell phones and Garmins (thanks "John").
> The power strip was fully populated most of the time he had the
> generator running.

Your welcome Ray.
I sat there with my iBook G4 and could only see the hhonors site but
could not connect. Using iStumble, I could not even detect any others. I
should have brought my Airport Express to use as a repeater.

[john smith[_2_]]

Oops! Should read, "You're welcome Ray."

[Dan Luke[_2_]]

"Mike Adams" wrote:

> So, I'm curious how this new service worked out. Was it free? How was the
> access
> from the North 40?

It was free. Access from where we were on the N40, approx. due south of the
Hilton was pretty good. The Hilton's wifi was usable, too.

> I wasn't there this year, but can see that this would be very
> handy for email and weather briefings.

Extremely.

TAFs, METARs and radar being available to everyone camped around us was much
appreciated.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

[Mike Adams[_1_]]

"Dan Luke" > wrote in
:

> It was free. Access from where we were on the N40, approx. due south
> of the Hilton was pretty good. The Hilton's wifi was usable, too.
>
>> I wasn't there this year, but can see that this would be very
>> handy for email and weather briefings.
>
> Extremely.
>
> TAFs, METARs and radar being available to everyone camped around us
> was much appreciated.

Sounds pretty good. I had an interesting experience last year which maybe
had some small influence. I was walking down the road in the North 40, on
my way to the registration building, when I was offered a ride by a guy,
and it turns out he was a full time EAA staffer and asked me what I would
think about wi-fi at Oshkosh. He said they were planning for it, and were
trying to evaluate capacity and services and whether to charge for it or
make it available for free. Their big concern with a free service was
that it would be overwhelmed with too many users, and it would be hard to
provide good service. OTOH, a paid service would be easier to control and
maybe easier to provide good service. I recall offering the opinion that
free wi-fi is almost an industry expectation anymore - from hotels to
airports it's everywhere. It's cool to see that they've made some
progress on this.

Mike

[Travis Marlatte]

Interesting. Free doesn't have to mean uncontrolled. The same software that
handles pay-for-use can also be used to throttle free access.

--
-------------------------------
Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK
"Mike Adams" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Dan Luke" > wrote in
> :
>
>> It was free. Access from where we were on the N40, approx. due south
>> of the Hilton was pretty good. The Hilton's wifi was usable, too.
>>
>>> I wasn't there this year, but can see that this would be very
>>> handy for email and weather briefings.
>>
>> Extremely.
>>
>> TAFs, METARs and radar being available to everyone camped around us
>> was much appreciated.
>
> Sounds pretty good. I had an interesting experience last year which maybe
> had some small influence. I was walking down the road in the North 40, on
> my way to the registration building, when I was offered a ride by a guy,
> and it turns out he was a full time EAA staffer and asked me what I would
> think about wi-fi at Oshkosh. He said they were planning for it, and were
> trying to evaluate capacity and services and whether to charge for it or
> make it available for free. Their big concern with a free service was
> that it would be overwhelmed with too many users, and it would be hard to
> provide good service. OTOH, a paid service would be easier to control and
> maybe easier to provide good service. I recall offering the opinion that
> free wi-fi is almost an industry expectation anymore - from hotels to
> airports it's everywhere. It's cool to see that they've made some
> progress on this.
>
> Mike

[NW_Pilot]

"Dave Butler" > wrote in message
...
> I've done a little prep and found some potential wireless hotspots within
> about a mile or so of the North 40. Here's my list, in case it's helpful
> to anyone else:
>
> Locations on Koeller: from the N40, go W to US41, then N to Koeller.
>
> Fairfield Inn Oshkosh
> 1800 S Koeller St 920-233-8504
>
> Applebee's Neighborhood Grill and Bar
> 1700 S Koeller St 920-231-8770
>
> The Cafe at Basic
> 1622 S. Koeller Street 920-231-1177
>
> The UPS Store #01250
> 1528a S Koeller Rd 920-231-1623
>
> Starbucks Oshkosh Hwy 41 & 9TH
> 1150A Koeller Street 920-231-7208
>
> Hawthorn Oshkosh Hotel Suites
> 3105 S. Washburn Street 920-303-1133
> From N40, go W to US41, then S to hotel.
>
> "Hilton Garden Inns has complimentary access available in the hotel
> public areas and guestrooms of many locations. Check with each
> location for availability."

I use my blackjack for internet if 3G is around I get about a 1 to 1.5mb
connection & Edge is about 200k I teather to laptop and I have internet and
weather most anyplace frizz weather is great for getting weather on the
phone winds and all .

[CheckerBird]

> I use my blackjack for internet if 3G is around I get about a 1 to 1.5mb
> connection & Edge is about 200k I teather to laptop and I have internet and
> weather most anyplace frizz weather is great for getting weather on the
> phone winds and all .

I use my Verizon aircard in the laptop and get about the same kind of
bandwidth. It's become my only broadband link nowadays since its so
portable and I can use it anywhere - at home, on the road or in the
air. My hometown has EVDO rev A but most small towns have only 1xRTT
bandwidth and that's still fast enough for getting the weather. It
works pretty well in flight too, provided I'm near enough and over a
VZW tower and not too high to pick up multiple towers and confuse the
aircard. Operating the laptop while flying solo is a bit distracting
so I usually land at an enroute airport to check weather if the skies
start looking like crap when I'm by myself. One of these days I'll
probably upgrade to a 396 or 496 with XM weather, but right now I
don't need to spend that kind of extra $$$.

[NW_Pilot]

"CheckerBird" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>> I use my blackjack for internet if 3G is around I get about a 1 to 1.5mb
>> connection & Edge is about 200k I teather to laptop and I have internet
>> and
>> weather most anyplace frizz weather is great for getting weather on the
>> phone winds and all .
>
> I use my Verizon aircard in the laptop and get about the same kind of
> bandwidth. It's become my only broadband link nowadays since its so
> portable and I can use it anywhere - at home, on the road or in the
> air. My hometown has EVDO rev A but most small towns have only 1xRTT
> bandwidth and that's still fast enough for getting the weather. It
> works pretty well in flight too, provided I'm near enough and over a
> VZW tower and not too high to pick up multiple towers and confuse the
> aircard. Operating the laptop while flying solo is a bit distracting
> so I usually land at an enroute airport to check weather if the skies
> start looking like crap when I'm by myself. One of these days I'll
> probably upgrade to a 396 or 496 with XM weather, but right now I
> don't need to spend that kind of extra $$$.
>

Yea, it's well worth the $20.00 for cingular/att it works great 1,000 to
1,500' agl over a city/ 700 to 1000' over major highway. Can kid can
internet and I can yack on bluetooth at the same time.