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B25flyer
August 20th 03, 09:49 PM
>I may not be a high time pilot but there aren't many people about
>whom three training captains at American Eagle have said flies better than
>90% of captains they train on the ERJ and Saab.

And I had three JAL training captains tell me I could fly a 747 better than
moooozer.


Walt

Juan E Jimenez
August 21st 03, 03:09 AM
Really? Got emails? I'll gladly exchange them so we can find out who is
telling the truth. I'll be waiting, but not holding my breath. :)

"B25flyer" > wrote in message
...
>
> >I may not be a high time pilot but there aren't many people about
> >whom three training captains at American Eagle have said flies better
than
> >90% of captains they train on the ERJ and Saab.
>
> And I had three JAL training captains tell me I could fly a 747 better
than
> moooozer.
>
>
> Walt

B25flyer
August 22nd 03, 05:25 AM
>Yeah, don't hold your breath. Old Walt here will tell you about all
>the days he spent flying C-130's with Air America....wonder how much
>of that is bull **** or shinola?
>

It was not AM it was Southern Air Transport.

Walt

Warren & Nancy
August 22nd 03, 01:47 PM
B25flyer wrote:

> >Yeah, don't hold your breath. Old Walt here will tell you about all
> >the days he spent flying C-130's with Air America....wonder how much
> >of that is bull **** or shinola?
> >
>
> It was not AM it was Southern Air Transport.
>
> Walt

And I have seen pictures of his landing in SE Ohio! ;-))

Warren

Mike Gaspard
August 22nd 03, 06:10 PM
(Badwater Bill) wrote in message >...
>
> But the coolest thing I've just done is bolt a car starter motor and
> ring gear to my Snobird gyroscope so I can sit in the seat and spin up
> the rotor blades to autorotation speed. I used to have to do that by
> hand, now it just drains one motorcycle battery completely to do it.
> I spun it up today in fact. Then I stopped it and tried to spin it up
> again (in zero wind conditions). Didn't work. The Voltage on the
> battery was down to 4 Volts during the second spin up.
>
> Damn!
>
> All I need is a bigger and heavier battery, but that means I have to
> lose about another 10 pounds off my big fat gut to compensate for it.
>
> What the ****... OVER.
>
> Just have to bite the big one and stop eating pizza and drinking
> Newcastle beer.
>
> BWB

Bill,

have you looked into the Wunderlich Flexible Shaft Prerotators? I
believe he has setups for the Rotax engines, and it'll be lighter than
a battery/starter combo. And you don't have to worry about charging
it. I use one on my Bensen, also his rotor brake. I don't have a rotor
tach, but it'll spool up my blades fast enough that blade flap on
takeoff is not a problem.

Dick Wunderlich doesn't have a website, but you can contact him for
info/brochure at:

Dick Wunderlich Prerotators
306 W.16th St.
Lockport, Ill. 60441
Phone: 815-838-0450
Fax: 815-838-0630

Also, Ernie Boyette uses a hydraulic pump/motor setup on his
Dominators that people have adapted to different machines. His contact
info is at his website:

http://www.rotorcraft.com/dominator/

I don't have any good pics of my prerotator, but I think I may have
some closup pics of the hydraulic units, from the PRA fly-in in
Waxahatchie last year, if you need them. The pump motors are probably
available at Graingers.


Mike

pac plyer
August 23rd 03, 02:08 PM
(B25flyer) wrote in message >...
> >Hi Walt. I flew with ex-SAT pilots some. You are familiar with the
> >accident that put Southern out of business right? Tell me about it.
> >
>
> Well pacplayer which accident are you talking about?
>
> The one in 86 at Kelly that killed a friend of mine Phil Decrenzo?
> The one at Travis, a training flight that killed 6 crew members.
> The one in the Sudan at Wau where the aircraft taxied over a landmine.
> The one in the Sudan at Juba where the crew had a triple engine failure on
> takeoff due to tainted fuel?
>
> Sorry pac but your wrong. SAT filed BR on 10-1-98 due to a lot of screw ups by
> managment and the fact that Logair, Quicktrans, and 50% of the MAC, (now AMC)
> contracts were cancelled. On top of that they had a huge debt load. It was not
> an airplane crash that put them out of business.

Sorry Walt,

I was just trolling you to find out if you really were a SAT employee.
There are a lot of imposters on these boards. Yes, that's my
understanding of what happened too. I used to fly A310's out of
Southeast Asia with "the queen of the Sudan." Hey, that's what she
called herself. Said she still suffered from the injuries from the
mine. Her story was she was sueing because of the fact info was
available about the mined condition of the runway but no NOTAM type
info was ever given to the crew. After SAT went under her suit was
mute. Any of that close?

Nice to meet you BTW,

pacplyer

B25flyer
August 23rd 03, 03:22 PM
>I used to fly A310's out of
>Southeast Asia with "the queen of the Sudan." Hey, that's what she
>called herself. Said she still suffered from the injuries from the
>mine. Her story was she was sueing because of the fact info was
>available about the mined condition of the runway but no NOTAM type
>info was ever given to the crew. After SAT went under her suit was
>mute. Any of that close?
>
>Nice to meet you BTW,
>
>pacplyer
>
>
>
>
>
>

So that's where she ended up...thought she was with UPS or FEDEX. If you ever
see her again tell "Lemmon Pie" (if we called her sweety pie she promised to do
nasty things to parts of the male anatomy) I said hello.

As for the NOTAM stuff...hell there was a NOTAM for the entire country for
mines and other nasty things.

Any more questions about the difference between **** and shinola?? BWB you
want to step in here another comment?

Walt

pac plyer
August 23rd 03, 06:39 PM
(B25flyer) wrote
> Any more questions about the difference between **** and shinola?? BWB you
> want to step in here another comment?
>
> Walt

Pac'll comment:

Yes it's true. Once you fly the B747 (even the simulator) you talk
about it for the rest of your life. Nothing else even comes close.
In about five seconds you loose the smoking-crater fear you had, and
it becomes apparent all at once: "Hey, whatyaknow: I can fly this big
MoFo!" We used to use it for interviews at Flying Tigers (but we
would lie and say the sim check was going to be in the DC-8.) I
always wondered why. I think I know now. It was to measure the size
of your balls. The check pilot would tell the job canidate: "take
whichever seat you feel most comfortable in; Left or Right."
Unbeknownst to the pilot canidate, this was a gonad test also. I
chose the left seat, aced the ILS, pointed out that we only had "one
in the green" on final, while telling a war story, and was hired in
the first class out of 5000 or so applications (thats what they told
me anyway: the truth was they feared we'd all quit an go to American:
they admitted that! [new B-scale]) Best job I ever had.

If you've got more than two engines turning, we used to say that even
a ninety-year old woman could fly the 74. Boeing outdid themselves.
The feel computers and handling characteristics are perfect. Unlike
the DC-10 which has a few bad habits with that tail engine.

Juan or Walt? Who's the best pilot? We'll, you're looking at him!
:-D
(notice, I purposely kept BWB out of the competition.)

O.K, seriously, my guess is that Walt has more stick time, if he
wasn't just a crew chief or something, and Juan is an accomplished
builder and aspiring driver. But one thing bugs me, and that is: How
come Juan never flys his creations? I mean it would make a great
story for his writing gig. Medical?
It's worth answering to get the jackel pack off his back.

I can't seem to finish my project by the way. I think I'll just have
to stick it on a pole or something. :-(

Best wishes guys,

pacplyer

(p.s: Walt, what seat did you fly in?)

B25flyer
August 23rd 03, 06:45 PM
>
>(p.s: Walt, what seat did you fly in?)
>
>
>

There is only one seat.....the left one.

Walt

Juan E Jimenez
August 24th 03, 04:44 AM
"Badwater Bill" > wrote in message
...
>
> Yeah, don't hold your breath. Old Walt here will tell you about all
> the days he spent flying C-130's with Air America....wonder how much
> of that is bull **** or shinola?

Maybe a mixture of both.

> To answer your question about what I've been doing, I built a hangar
> here at the house that's 36 x 36, has an 18 foot lectric door on the
> front that opens to 10' 6" so I can get an R-22 in it. I put a
> restroom in it so I don't have to hang my dick out the door on a tree
> to pee, nor do any ladies that might need to use the john. I also put
> an LVL beam across the thing paralleling the trusses so I can hoist
> 12,000 pounds of any ****ing thing I deem hoistable to the 10 foot
> ceilings. I've got a great air compressor in there and lots of bench
> space I built along two walls. I'm in the process of bolting down all
> my reloading equipment (presses) so I can reload my 50 Cal. Grizzly
> rounds with tracer ammo and such, plus my Mini-14's with the 223
> rounds and the 44 mag pistola rounds...you know, all the toys most men
> have.

Holy ****. You've been busy! All you need now is a couple of gunner windows
on the sides and a turret on the top.

> But the coolest thing I've just done is bolt a car starter motor and
> ring gear to my Snobird gyroscope so I can sit in the seat and spin up
> the rotor blades to autorotation speed. I used to have to do that by
> hand, now it just drains one motorcycle battery completely to do it.
> I spun it up today in fact. Then I stopped it and tried to spin it up
> again (in zero wind conditions). Didn't work. The Voltage on the
> battery was down to 4 Volts during the second spin up.

I gather the engine on the gyro has no generator? I don't know squate about
gyros, so I don't know what the hell's a "Snobird." I tried to hover an R22.
Once. The entire goddamn flight school was in tears. I want to try it again
but I gotta find some other place to do it. :)

> All I need is a bigger and heavier battery, but that means I have to
> lose about another 10 pounds off my big fat gut to compensate for it.

What battery do you have in there now?

> Just have to bite the big one and stop eating pizza and drinking
> Newcastle beer.

I stopped eating crap after spending three weeks in the hospital with my
side cut open so the docs could shuttle me back and forth to the OR to stuff
me full of gauze after my pancreas went south. Learned my lesson real quick.

Juan E Jimenez
August 24th 03, 05:08 AM
"pac plyer" > wrote in message
om...

> But one thing bugs me, and that is: How come Juan never flys his
creations?

Since you asked nicely, I will tell you. :)

-5B #1 was bought from a Idaho NG officer who had bought it from the
original builder. Had a great time tracking down the person I bought it from
when the original builder told me my seller had never paid for the airplane
and he would not give me title until he got his money. He was really cool
about it, and when I told him where he could find the lowlife, we caught up
with him in mid-summer weekend warrior refresher. His CO scraped the fluff
of his carpet with his ass and he coughed up the money. I finished the
fuselage and was about ready to start installing the landing gear, when it
was sold because Eagle hired me to work management in Fort Worth and would
not pay to ship the bird _or_ the tools to Texas. I had already paid a
couple thousand in taxes and shipping and wasn't about to do it again. So I
sold it to an IA in PR who runs a very successful NDT shop and hasn't taken
it a paragraph further in the plans. It took me over a year to round up
enough money to put a DEPOSIT on another airframe, and lets not talk about
how long it took me to fill up a toolbox again.

-5B #2 was the old N22TR, one of the first -5's to fly. After Ted Rogers
passed away it bounced around the country until it landed in the hands of a
genius by the name of Tom Johnson, designer of the only skirtless hovercraft
that can climb hills at 70 mph, among other _way cool_ hardware sitting in
his back yard near Oakland. He was the first to put a Rotax engine in a -5,
a 532. He partnered with Keith Hinshaw for that one. They took that engine
out and installed the first prototype of the AMW-225-3 but just as they were
almost ready to fly the Rogers' estate lawyer adviced the widow about the
word "liability" and she ordered the plane destroyed. Tom put it away for
some years until she passed away, and then I got a hold of it. It became
N522PR. I spent a lot of time restoring and upgrading it with what little
money I could must out of an Eagle salary. The engine was completely
overhauled and upgraded by the folks at 2SI, and I had them put in an
Airflow Performance mech fuel injection system, upgraded the landing gear,
bought the SuperSpar upgrade, designed and built a completely new panel,
etc. It was sold when I got the opportunity to buy a -5J built in Australia
by a CASA DAR. I sold it to a Citation/Lear ambulance driver in Spain, and
bought the jet with that money and some stock options I had laying around.

Immediately after I bought the jet, and one day before I was supposed to fly
my first Angel Flight mission (terminal pancreatic cancer), I went down for
the count with acute pancreatitis and woke up 10 days later and 55 lbs
lighter, with my tongue split open and tubes in places I didn't know I had
orifices. That was Nov of 01. AOPA Escrow had a great time trying to track
me down to complete the transaction. They thought I was dead (and little did
they know that they were almost right, I came this close to going the way of
Meigs). I was not able to do a damn thing to it until March of 02, when the
last of 5 tubes was finally pulled out of my abdomen and the large slices of
my side had closed up. The plane was damaged in transit. I talked the
insurance company into bringing the builder here (first trip to the US).
Since then I've been working to make the aircraft airworthy. I am done with
all items on my list except W&B and CG, and getting the hang of setting the
fuel controller to induce the appropriate misting from the engine injectors.
It also took me MANY months just to get some information on the engine,
enough to order a custom N1 RPM and be able to operate it safely.

And of course, I lost my medical and it took me until june of 03 to get it
back.

I'm not in your league when it comes to pilot experience, but I've paid my
dues since 1974, when I worked as a line boy in exchange for training in
Grumman trainers and a few hours in a Pitts S2A. Since then I've flown... I
guess some 20-25 types of aircraft, from C150's to... well, some things I'm
not supposed to say I was allowed to fly when I was in the Marines. :)

Juan

pac plyer
August 25th 03, 05:19 AM
> And of course, I lost my medical and it took me until june of 03 to get it
> back.
>

Life is ridiculously short isn't it? Just when you start having real
fun, something like this crops up.

Congrads on getting your medical back. Hope that airshow food doesn't
do that to you again. ;-) Good luck on everything.

pacplyer

Juan E Jimenez
August 25th 03, 06:24 AM
"pac plyer" > wrote in message
om...
>
> Life is ridiculously short isn't it? Just when you start having real
> fun, something like this crops up.

Well, yes and no. I expect to be retreaded and thrown back on the road.
Everything I see around me tells me there's no way we're here for a one-way
trip and <poof>, end of story. The Hindi have it right, IMO, except for this
idea that we can come back as ants and we shouldn't whack cows, cut them up
and throw them on the grill.

> Congrads on getting your medical back. Hope that airshow food doesn't
> do that to you again. ;-) Good luck on everything.

Thank you. Same to you. :)

As to the food, I learned my lesson. I cook my own now. :)

Juan

Badwater Bill
August 26th 03, 12:02 AM
or Walt? Who's the best pilot? We'll, you're looking at him!
>:-D
>(notice, I purposely kept BWB out of the competition.)

Thanks for keeping me out of the contest. Hell, I'm just a light
aircraft driver with 5000 hours in all kinds of **** from gliders to
hot air balloons and seaplanes to helicotpers. I think the only
civilian rating I don't have is BLIMP. Ha Ha Of course there are
hundreds of type ratings I don't hold.

Never flew the big iron. I spent this weekend flying helicopters all
over the ****ing place...logged 12 hours in choppers just Friday, Sat
and Sun.

For Juan, I was at French Valley airport in the R-44 on Friday evening
taking a fuel filter to a buddy stranded there in his MD-500 and saw
a BD-5J mounted on a pole in front of the main terminal building. It
had the thrust reversers opened up and looked to me to be a kit that
nobody completed. Looked good too. Someone might buy that thing and
finish it.

>
>O.K, seriously, my guess is that Walt has more stick time, if he
>wasn't just a crew chief or something, and Juan is an accomplished
>builder and aspiring driver. But one thing bugs me, and that is: How
>come Juan never flys his creations? I mean it would make a great
>story for his writing gig. Medical?
>It's worth answering to get the jackel pack off his back.
>
>I can't seem to finish my project by the way. I think I'll just have
>to stick it on a pole or something. :-(


See above!

BWB


>Best wishes guys,
>
>pacplyer
>
>(p.s: Walt, what seat did you fly in?)

Badwater Bill
August 26th 03, 12:08 AM
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:24:18 GMT, "Juan E Jimenez"
> wrote:

>
>"pac plyer" > wrote in message
om...
>>
>> Life is ridiculously short isn't it? Just when you start having real
>> fun, something like this crops up.
>
>Well, yes and no. I expect to be retreaded and thrown back on the road.
>Everything I see around me tells me there's no way we're here for a one-way
>trip and <poof>, end of story. The Hindi have it right, IMO, except for this
>idea that we can come back as ants and we shouldn't whack cows, cut them up
>and throw them on the grill.
>
>> Congrads on getting your medical back. Hope that airshow food doesn't
>> do that to you again. ;-) Good luck on everything.
>
>Thank you. Same to you. :)
>
>As to the food, I learned my lesson. I cook my own now. :)
>
>Juan
>


Yeah, that goes double for me fella. Congrats on getting that medical
back. ****ing doctors. I hate like hell to think that some ****ing
Medical Doctor has to sign me off to be a piltot every year. Some
****ing doctor determines whether I can fly or not. That's bull ****.
I'm going to fly no matter what some ****ing doctor ever says. I'll
find a way, even if I have to sign everything I own over to someone
else so I have no assets to lose, I'm gonna fly. I may fly in the
desert out where I can't hurt anyone if I keel over, but I'm gonna
fly.

BWB

Badwater Bill
August 26th 03, 12:11 AM
>
>Bill,
>
>have you looked into the Wunderlich Flexible Shaft Prerotators? I
>believe he has setups for the Rotax engines, and it'll be lighter than
>a battery/starter combo. And you don't have to worry about charging
>it. I use one on my Bensen, also his rotor brake. I don't have a rotor
>tach, but it'll spool up my blades fast enough that blade flap on
>takeoff is not a problem.
>
>Dick Wunderlich doesn't have a website, but you can contact him for
>info/brochure at:
>
>Dick Wunderlich Prerotators
>306 W.16th St.
>Lockport, Ill. 60441
>Phone: 815-838-0450
>Fax: 815-838-0630
>
> Also, Ernie Boyette uses a hydraulic pump/motor setup on his
>Dominators that people have adapted to different machines. His contact
>info is at his website:
>
>http://www.rotorcraft.com/dominator/
>
>I don't have any good pics of my prerotator, but I think I may have
>some closup pics of the hydraulic units, from the PRA fly-in in
>Waxahatchie last year, if you need them. The pump motors are probably
>available at Graingers.
>
>
>Mike

I had one of those flexible prerotators on the Snowbird when I bought
it. But I changed the engine to a Rotax 582 with the E-Box drive
since it had an electric starter. That prerotator wouldn't work with
it, so I went to the electric. I get one good shot at it and it
drains the battery completely. So, I crank up the engine first, after
getting the blades turning a bit, then hit it. It works great, but I
have to fly for half an hour to recharge the battery for the next
spool-up.

Bill

Badwater Bill
August 26th 03, 12:14 AM
battery was down to 4 Volts during the second spin up.
>
>I gather the engine on the gyro has no generator? I don't know squate about
>gyros, so I don't know what the hell's a "Snobird." I tried to hover an R22.
>Once. The entire goddamn flight school was in tears. I want to try it again
>but I gotta find some other place to do it. :)

Nah, it has a lighing coil with a diode on it so you can actually tap
off it and charge the battery back up. It works okay.

>
>> All I need is a bigger and heavier battery, but that means I have to
>> lose about another 10 pounds off my big fat gut to compensate for it.
>
>What battery do you have in there now?

A little motorcycle battery from Walmart. Real airworthy eh? Ha Ha
>
>> Just have to bite the big one and stop eating pizza and drinking
>> Newcastle beer.
>
>I stopped eating crap after spending three weeks in the hospital with my
>side cut open so the docs could shuttle me back and forth to the OR to stuff
>me full of gauze after my pancreas went south. Learned my lesson real quick.

Jesus Christ, are you okay? Damn, I hope that never happens again.

Happy Skies.

BWB

Badwater Bill
August 26th 03, 12:45 AM
> >
>Bill which motorcycle battery are you using? I put a Odyssey 680 in my
>RV-6 and it cranks my O-360 better than any Concord RG aircraft battery
>I have ever used. I highly recomend it.
>
>http://sunnbattery.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=553828%7C1209500&PRID=1292858
>
>
>Jerry

I'm using a cheap piece of **** battery from Walmart. I have the
gelcell 35 amp-hr battery but I didn't want the weight. I'm going to
have to build a new bracket for it and just bite the bullet and use
it.

BWB

Jerry Springer
August 26th 03, 03:49 AM
Badwater Bill wrote:
>>Bill which motorcycle battery are you using? I put a Odyssey 680 in my
>>RV-6 and it cranks my O-360 better than any Concord RG aircraft battery
>>I have ever used. I highly recomend it.
>>
>>http://sunnbattery.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=553828%7C1209500&PRID=1292858
>>
>>
>>Jerry
>
>
> I'm using a cheap piece of **** battery from Walmart. I have the
> gelcell 35 amp-hr battery but I didn't want the weight. I'm going to
> have to build a new bracket for it and just bite the bullet and use
> it.
>
> BWB
>

Bill, the Odyssey 680 weighs 11-12 lbs compared to 22-25 lbs for the gel
cell. Gell cell battries are not the way to go for what you are trying
to do. They well not stand the discharge/recharge

Here is a site that has the specs for the Odyssey batteries. The weights
listed also includes the metal jacket. You can buy this without the
metal jacket but the metal jacket can also be used as a battery mount.

http://www.odysseyfactory.com/specs.htm

If you all ready know all of this stuff then never mind. :-)

Jerry

Badwater Bill
August 26th 03, 03:11 PM
>
>Bill, the Odyssey 680 weighs 11-12 lbs compared to 22-25 lbs for the gel
>cell. Gell cell battries are not the way to go for what you are trying
>to do. They well not stand the discharge/recharge
>
>Here is a site that has the specs for the Odyssey batteries. The weights
>listed also includes the metal jacket. You can buy this without the
>metal jacket but the metal jacket can also be used as a battery mount.
>
>http://www.odysseyfactory.com/specs.htm
>
>If you all ready know all of this stuff then never mind. :-)
>
>Jerry

Thanks Jerry. I'm going to order one.

Bill

Juan E Jimenez
August 26th 03, 09:07 PM
"Badwater Bill" > wrote in message
...
>
> Nah, it has a lighing coil with a diode on it so you can actually tap
> off it and charge the battery back up. It works okay.

Hmm... Ok, if you say so., :)

> A little motorcycle battery from Walmart. Real airworthy eh? Ha Ha

Texas Battery Co. has a small 12v 12a sealed battery that works great for
these applications. I put four of them into the redesign of the systems on
Bob Bishop's -5J's. They work great. If I remember correctly they were the
Guardian DG12-12's.

> Jesus Christ, are you okay? Damn, I hope that never happens again.

I am now, but boy did I get intimate with my morphine pump. I too hope it
never happens again. :)

Badwater Bill
August 26th 03, 11:44 PM
>You aren't missing anything. New airbus and Boeings are just button
>pushing jobs. You hunch over all day fighting with prehistoric
>Command Line Interface FMS units that are more ****ed up than Hogan's
>Goat. You'll be lucky to look out the window or hand fly the thing
>for fifteen minutes on a two hour flight. That's why I bid the old
>fossiled DC-10. A real man's machine. I never used the fricking
>autopilots till over 30,000 ft or level off. Most of today's airline
>pilots can just barely fly without "otto" doing the autoland cuz they
>never dare to **** off the "highest level of automation at all times"
>nazi check pilot department (at least at my MO-FO-CO.) No Bill, my
>money's on you as the best pilot in this newsgroup.
>
>Keep the dirty side down,
>
>pac "hand job" plyer

Ah, thanks Pac. I was a better pilot when I was younger. I'm falling
apart with age. Getting older is ****ed up. I actually think I was a
great pilot when I got my ATP about 20 years ago. My brain didn't
know if I was in IMC or VFR...it was all the same. But, I've lost a
lot of those skills since I just don't do it much anymore.

I had a ball this weekend though. I ferried helicopters all over
hell. I was down in this canyon on Sunday looking at a river in the
middle of Arizona about 50 miles SE of Kingman. It looked like there
were no people on Earth, anywhere, and I was zooming up this river
between canyon walls about 500 feet high when I saw a few cows. I
brought her into a hover and scared the **** out of the cows. When
they started running I chased them and harassed them all over the
place. I was pulling up and doing hammer heads in a Robie and
cranking back down on the terrified cows as they tried to run for
cover. ****. It was a ball. I lost myself for a few moments as my
brain and body simply took command of the machine as if it were a suit
of clothes I was wearing. Now I know how those dudes in Australia
feel who live in that R-22 all day long herding cattle. You begin to
wear the machine.

Nothing like it. Sometimes in the RV-6 I felt that way while cranking
down a canyon over there in Utah or Arizona along a river...just
yanking and banking.

On Friday night I was flying an R-44 and got back to the barn at 9:30.
I took it slow and did the approach like an old man but I still had
some depth perception problems as I dropped into the pad in a hover.
The pad isn't lighted and all I had was that twinky little landing
light on the front of that $350,000 machine. I had to just feel my
way down until I could see the rocks, then do the touchdown. When I
was a kid, I could have seen that pad in pitch black dark with no
landing light. In fact I'd have never even turned the ****ing thing
on because I'd have considered that chicken****. If you can't land in
the dark you shouldn't be flying at night has been my view for many
years. Nowadays, I use the landing light all the time so I don't even
get close to pranging the machine. I guess I could still do it
without the light, but it would be a stretch and I wouldn't be all the
happy about it. ****ing old age. I hate it.

Sometimes when I'm alone and I get a vibration in the machine and
there are no other lives involved, I don't even get puckered. I just
figure **** it...there's a lot of ugly ways to go out in this life,
like laying in a hospital bed with cancer on morphine or something.
If I can buy the farm in a flying machine while I'm still healthy
enough to be able to fly the *******, then "What the ****-Over"

BWB

Dptate
August 27th 03, 12:38 AM
> I just
>figure **** it...there's a lot of ugly ways to go out in this life,
>like laying in a hospital bed with cancer on morphine or something.
>If I can buy the farm in a flying machine while I'm still healthy
>enough to be able to fly the *******, then "What the ****-Over"
>
>BWB
>
>

Yep. Some of us are certainly not in any danger of dying young anymore.

Dave Tate

Juan E Jimenez
August 27th 03, 03:07 AM
You know, I had never really thought about it in that particular way
before... <g>

"Dptate" > wrote in message
...
>
> Yep. Some of us are certainly not in any danger of dying young anymore.
>
> Dave Tate

Model Flyer
August 29th 03, 12:04 PM
"Badwater Bill" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 02:09:30 GMT, "Juan E Jimenez"
> > wrote:
>
> >Really? Got emails? I'll gladly exchange them so we can find out
who is
> >telling the truth. I'll be waiting, but not holding my breath. :)
>
>
> Yeah, don't hold your breath. Old Walt here will tell you about
all
> the days he spent flying C-130's with Air America....wonder how
much

> the rotor blades to autorotation speed. I used to have to do that
by
> hand, now it just drains one motorcycle battery completely to do
it.
> I spun it up today in fact. Then I stopped it and tried to spin it
up
> again (in zero wind conditions). Didn't work. The Voltage on the
> battery was down to 4 Volts during the second spin up.
>

There is a device that uses a ring gear like you have, however
instead of a starter moter it uses a flexable shaft with a rubber
wheel on the end that's pulled into engagement with a wheel mounted
just inboard of the prop. A lever on the joystick worked through a
bowden cable pulls the rubber wheel onto the other wheel when you
want to run-up the rotor. The whole rig weighs only 14#, lighter than
a starter and battery and available any time. There's a bendix at the
top of the flexable shaft to engage with the ring gear.
--

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Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
modelflyer at antispam dot net

Antispam trap in place



> Damn!
>
> All I need is a bigger and heavier battery, but that means I have
to
> lose about another 10 pounds off my big fat gut to compensate for
it.
>
> What the ****... OVER.
>
> Just have to bite the big one and stop eating pizza and drinking
> Newcastle beer.
>
> BWB
>

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