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Big John
July 23rd 07, 03:40 AM
Any birds get dinged today?

Big John

July 23rd 07, 05:23 AM
Pretty quite day from an accident stand-point, a few minor ground
mishaps. Over-all traffic counts were healthy, but I don't have
specific figures. I flew in from my home-base outside of Madison, WI
and skated in without any problems at all. Straight up to Ripon, up to
Fisk, then straight into Rwy 9. Last year I was in that big hold over
Green Lake that received alot of press, and this was infinitely
easier.

There were a few dimwits on the radio, a Canadian Mooney M20 calling
up the tower from the east side of Lake Winnabago asking to be let in,
the controllers were much too accommodating and got him in rather than
sending him all the way around to Ripon. Although someone did chime in
on the radio "READ THE NOTAM!" which made me laugh. And I saw another
dim-wit try to land on 27 while ops were all on 9. I have no idea
where he came from until he flew over my head. Guys were scattering
everywhere going around.

Despite all the angst that alot of people have, flying into OSH for
the show is alot of fun!

I haven't met up with the other R.A.P crowd however.

Enjoy, come on up to the show!

Ryan Wubben
Co-Chairman, EAA Flight Line Operations

Big John
July 23rd 07, 09:09 PM
Ryan

There always seem to be some accidents with the large group that
comes to OSH.

Last year the War Bird that taxied over a little plane on taxi way.
Year before, as I recall, the Hughes Racer bird crashed on way home to
west coast.

Every time we had a 'gathering' of aircraft in AAC/USAF we lost at
least one, mostly going home. Maybe get home i'tis????

In any event, have a good show and be careful around Jays's operations
in the parking area :o) He was loaded out on trip up so be sure he
either takes off at midnight when air coolest or ships the stuff he
picks up home via USPS or Fed-X or someone driving.

I just turned 86 last month and doubt if I will make it before I meet
my maker. Can't really tell though. If I get there and they put me in
Angle School I may be able to fly in on my Angle Wings :o)

Enjoy.

Big John
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:23:52 -0700, "
> wrote:

>Pretty quite day from an accident stand-point, a few minor ground
>mishaps. Over-all traffic counts were healthy, but I don't have
>specific figures. I flew in from my home-base outside of Madison, WI
>and skated in without any problems at all. Straight up to Ripon, up to
>Fisk, then straight into Rwy 9. Last year I was in that big hold over
>Green Lake that received alot of press, and this was infinitely
>easier.
>
>There were a few dimwits on the radio, a Canadian Mooney M20 calling
>up the tower from the east side of Lake Winnabago asking to be let in,
>the controllers were much too accommodating and got him in rather than
>sending him all the way around to Ripon. Although someone did chime in
>on the radio "READ THE NOTAM!" which made me laugh. And I saw another
>dim-wit try to land on 27 while ops were all on 9. I have no idea
>where he came from until he flew over my head. Guys were scattering
>everywhere going around.
>
>Despite all the angst that alot of people have, flying into OSH for
>the show is alot of fun!
>
>I haven't met up with the other R.A.P crowd however.
>
>Enjoy, come on up to the show!
>
>Ryan Wubben
>Co-Chairman, EAA Flight Line Operations

Blueskies
July 27th 07, 12:45 PM
"Big John" > wrote in message ...
> Ryan
>
> There always seem to be some accidents with the large group that
> comes to OSH.
>
> Last year the War Bird that taxied over a little plane on taxi way.
> Year before, as I recall, the Hughes Racer bird crashed on way home to
> west coast.
>
> Every time we had a 'gathering' of aircraft in AAC/USAF we lost at
> least one, mostly going home. Maybe get home i'tis????
>
> In any event, have a good show and be careful around Jays's operations
> in the parking area :o) He was loaded out on trip up so be sure he
> either takes off at midnight when air coolest or ships the stuff he
> picks up home via USPS or Fed-X or someone driving.
>
> I just turned 86 last month and doubt if I will make it before I meet
> my maker. Can't really tell though. If I get there and they put me in
> Angle School I may be able to fly in on my Angle Wings :o)
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Big John
> ***************************************
>
>

We were camping 'on the line', row 76 in vintage aircraft camping. Front row seats to the big show. Amazing mix of all
sorts of aircraft, and I only saw (and heard) a few dumb pilot tricks while there. A Luscombe ended up on it's back
Wednesday alongside 36L, but I am pretty sure all were OK. Rumor had it that it was blown over by something bigger, but
I suspect it was a problem during takeoff (gusty left cross wind).

No where near the issues during arrival that we had last year, and flying out was easy also. We flew back home
yesterday. Had to pick our way through towering cumulus (the 'ol 172 is not IFR certified), but it was quick.

July 28th 07, 12:56 PM
What I heard is that the Luscombe was taxying and hit the brakes too
hard and went over on its back. No one was hurt, it occurred at slow
speed on a taxyway.

-Ryan

John T[_1_]
July 28th 07, 10:55 PM
A T-6 landed on US 41 on the 22nd, the luscombe that nosed over, a
highwing that landed too hard and collapsed its gear, and the 2 mustangs
that collided resulting in 1 death. One of them may have been a
scratchbuilt P51A.

Working the flightline saturday, I saw one cessna bank nearly 90 degrees
on landing approach for 9 before he finally went around. There was a 90
degree crosswind from the north at the time, and I think they sent him
around to 36. Or told him to get lost, I'm not sure which.

wrote:
> What I heard is that the Luscombe was taxying and hit the brakes too
> hard and went over on its back. No one was hurt, it occurred at slow
> speed on a taxyway.
>
> -Ryan
>

Blueskies
July 28th 07, 11:28 PM
"John T" > wrote in message ...
>A T-6 landed on US 41 on the 22nd, the luscombe that nosed over, a highwing that landed too hard and collapsed its
>gear, and the 2 mustangs that collided resulting in 1 death. One of them may have been a scratchbuilt P51A.
>
> Working the flightline saturday, I saw one cessna bank nearly 90 degrees on landing approach for 9 before he finally
> went around. There was a 90 degree crosswind from the north at the time, and I think they sent him around to 36. Or
> told him to get lost, I'm not sure which.
>

I saw that Cessna. We were coming back from the Aldi store and waiting for the bus at the N40. Looked like there was
another one landing, and I'm sure the controller said something, but it sure was wobbling around, full flaps hanging and
banking back and forth. It didn't look good, but somehow it did pull out and go around. I was watching for it but never
did see where it ended up...

John T[_1_]
July 29th 07, 01:32 PM
I kept an eye on it, last I saw, it was heading s-s/e, as if it were
going to make a right pattern for 36.

Blueskies wrote:
> "John T" > wrote in message ...
>> A T-6 landed on US 41 on the 22nd, the luscombe that nosed over, a highwing that landed too hard and collapsed its
>> gear, and the 2 mustangs that collided resulting in 1 death. One of them may have been a scratchbuilt P51A.
>>
>> Working the flightline saturday, I saw one cessna bank nearly 90 degrees on landing approach for 9 before he finally
>> went around. There was a 90 degree crosswind from the north at the time, and I think they sent him around to 36. Or
>> told him to get lost, I'm not sure which.
>>
>
> I saw that Cessna. We were coming back from the Aldi store and waiting for the bus at the N40. Looked like there was
> another one landing, and I'm sure the controller said something, but it sure was wobbling around, full flaps hanging and
> banking back and forth. It didn't look good, but somehow it did pull out and go around. I was watching for it but never
> did see where it ended up...
>
>

Hawkeye[_2_]
July 29th 07, 03:19 PM
On Jul 22, 9:40 pm, Big John > wrote:
> Any birds get dinged today?
>
> Big John

The Post Crescent has a pretty good selection of news stories relating
to the mishaps at Oshkosh this past week. Even some that didn't make
it into the mainstream of the local press.

http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070728/VIDEO0101/307310003

Look at the stories at the lower half of the page.

john smith[_2_]
July 29th 07, 05:12 PM
Wednesday night close to field closing time, a Mooney flew up the west
side of the field, tower asked him something, his response was, "I don't
know what I am doing."

john smith[_2_]
July 29th 07, 05:14 PM
Thursday morning a Beech Musketeer departed R27.
Apparently, he lost a cyclinder on takeoff and flew low over the JC
Penny and was lost from sight. Someone called the tower's attention to
him and the pilot responded that he was continuing on to another airport.

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