Bendix King KSN 770 introduced at Oshkosh?

[Longworth[_1_]]

https://www3.bendixking.com/whyBendixking/ksn770.jsp

http://tinyurl.com/2xexzo


Has anyone seen this unit?

Hai Longworth

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Longworth wrote:
> https://www3.bendixking.com/whyBendixking/ksn770.jsp
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2xexzo
>
>
> Has anyone seen this unit?
>
> Hai Longworth

Very nice jump into the market. I wonder how much that bad boy costs. It
would be especially nice when teamed with this from King.
https://www3.bendixking.com/whyBendixking/kfd840.jsp

[Longworth[_1_]]

On Jul 25, 11:54 am, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:

> Very nice jump into the market. I wonder how much that bad boy costs. It
> would be especially nice when teamed with this from King.https://www3.bendixking.com/whyBendixking/kfd840.jsp

One of the link mentioned the estimate price for the KFD840 at
around $20K. I am hoping that the KSN770 will be priced at the same
range as the Garmin GNS 530 or just a bit more.

Hai Longworth

[Scott Skylane]

Longworth wrote:


>
> One of the link mentioned the estimate price for the KFD840 at
> around $20K. I am hoping that the KSN770 will be priced at the same
> range as the Garmin GNS 530 or just a bit more.
>
> Hai Longworth
>
Umm, actually, I'm hoping the 770 goes for about $50 bucks...

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane

[Jim Burns]

Umm... actually... I talked with 3 Honeywell reps and they told me that they
were hoping the 770 would enter the market under $20k... just like the
KFD840... my jaw dropped.

Once again, for the 3rd consecutive year, the Honeywell/Bendix King team
disappointed me beyond belief. I've talked with them at OSH for three years
running, and each year non of the reps I've talked with know more than whats
been released to the media, which is very little.

The three reps that I talked with knew nothing about:
Price (within $10k)
KLN94 upgrade package to the 770
770's ability or lack there of to couple with any competitor's GPSS roll
steering/autopilots (two reps didn't even know what roll steering was) I
actually had to tell them to walk over to the S-Tec booth and ask them why
the KLN94 wouldn't work with anybodies GPSS roll steering unit. They didn't
have a clue. They also didn't have a clue about:
Whether the 770 would be a options based unit or an all in one price only
unit
How anybody with a full stack could remove a KLN94 and a KX155 and still
make room for the 770
Datalink weather only or XM availability.

They repeatedly kept emphasizing how the 770 would work seamlessly with
their new KFD840. In fact, they wouldn't shut up about it. I finally
walked away.

Did anybody talk with anyone from H/B-K who knew more than those that I
talked with??

Jim



"Scott Skylane" > wrote in message
...
> Longworth wrote:
>
>
>>
>> One of the link mentioned the estimate price for the KFD840 at
>> around $20K. I am hoping that the KSN770 will be priced at the same
>> range as the Garmin GNS 530 or just a bit more.
>>
>> Hai Longworth
>>
> Umm, actually, I'm hoping the 770 goes for about $50 bucks...
>
> Happy Flying!
> Scott Skylane

[Marco Leon]

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message news:
> Umm... actually... I talked with 3 Honeywell reps and they told me that
> they were hoping the 770 would enter the market under $20k... just like
> the KFD840... my jaw dropped.
>
> Once again, for the 3rd consecutive year, the Honeywell/Bendix King team
> disappointed me beyond belief. I've talked with them at OSH for three
> years running, and each year non of the reps I've talked with know more
> than whats been released to the media, which is very little.
>
> The three reps that I talked with knew nothing about:
> Price (within $10k)
> KLN94 upgrade package to the 770
> 770's ability or lack there of to couple with any competitor's GPSS roll
> steering/autopilots (two reps didn't even know what roll steering was) I
> actually had to tell them to walk over to the S-Tec booth and ask them why
> the KLN94 wouldn't work with anybodies GPSS roll steering unit. They
> didn't have a clue. They also didn't have a clue about:
> Whether the 770 would be a options based unit or an all in one price only
> unit
> How anybody with a full stack could remove a KLN94 and a KX155 and still
> make room for the 770
> Datalink weather only or XM availability.
>
> They repeatedly kept emphasizing how the 770 would work seamlessly with
> their new KFD840. In fact, they wouldn't shut up about it. I finally
> walked away.
>
> Did anybody talk with anyone from H/B-K who knew more than those that I
> talked with??

Being the large company that holeywell is, my guess is that those "reps"
were there for company political reasons and not becuase they were product
experts.

At ~$20K for each for the B-K models, it looks like Garmin still has an edge
with the G600 for ~$30K and its PFD/MFD combination in a small space. Also,
I don't see where the 770 is more capable than the TAWS-enabled Garmin
GNS530 aside from screen resolution.

With many of Garmin's key people originally from Bendix King, this their
edge is not from pure luck.

Marco

[Dan Luke[_2_]]

"Longworth" wrote:

> Has anyone seen this unit?
>

Yes, I saw it at B/K's booth, Hai.

Very nice unit that really makes Garmin's 430/530/480 look crude by
comparison. Beautiful display. Does it all: weather, WAAS, NAV/COM.

I failed to ask how much, since I'm no longer in the market for a panel
upgrade. If I were, this would be the ticket (price permitting).

Missed you at the party.


--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

[Longworth[_1_]]

Dan,
Thank you for the pirep. We will postpone adding an IFR GPS to our
Cardinal at least until I know the price of the KSN 770 to compare
with the Garmin 530.
Wish that I were at Oshkosh this year. How big was the party? It's
too bad that I missed a chance to see your new plane.

Hai Longworth

[Blueskies]

"Longworth" > wrote in message ups.com...
> Dan,
> Thank you for the pirep. We will postpone adding an IFR GPS to our
> Cardinal at least until I know the price of the KSN 770 to compare
> with the Garmin 530.
> Wish that I were at Oshkosh this year. How big was the party? It's
> too bad that I missed a chance to see your new plane.
>
> Hai Longworth
>

Take a look at this: http://www.aspenavionics.com/index.php/products/evolution/

[Longworth[_1_]]

On Jul 27, 9:13 pm, "Blueskies" > wrote:

> Take a look at this:http://www.aspenavionics.com/index.php/products/evolution/

I did checked out their website but it looked like their systems are
mainly for flight display & VFR GPS. We are looking to add enroute &
approach certified GPS to our plane to expand our airport landing
choices. Many small airports have only GPS approaches.

Hai Longworth

[[email protected]]

On Jul 27, 11:18 am, "Dan Luke" > wrote:
> "Longworth" wrote:
> > Has anyone seen this unit?
>
> Yes, I saw it at B/K's booth, Hai.
>
> Very nice unit that really makes Garmin's 430/530/480 look crude by
> comparison. Beautiful display. Does it all: weather, WAAS, NAV/COM.
>
> I failed to ask how much, since I'm no longer in the market for a panel
> upgrade. If I were, this would be the ticket (price permitting).
>
> Missed you at the party.
>
> --
> Dan
> T-182T at BFM

They said the KFD840 would be price at less than $20K INSTALLED. They
also said the KSN770 would be comparably priced to the G530 but that
it would include jepp charts (like having a 530 + MX200).

[Matt Whiting]

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> Longworth wrote:
>> https://www3.bendixking.com/whyBendixking/ksn770.jsp
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2xexzo
>>
>>
>> Has anyone seen this unit?
>>
>> Hai Longworth
>
> Very nice jump into the market. I wonder how much that bad boy costs. It
> would be especially nice when teamed with this from King.
> https://www3.bendixking.com/whyBendixking/kfd840.jsp
>
>

It is good to see Garmin have some competition finally. However, unless
they use is much more intuitive than past King products, I'd probably
still go with the Garmin.

Matt

[Dan Luke[_2_]]

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

> It is good to see Garmin have some competition finally. However, unless
> they use is much more intuitive than past King products, I'd probably still
> go with the Garmin.

I didn't get to operate one, but the screen layout was very appealing; high
"at-a-glance" factor, it seemed to me.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

[Dan Luke[_2_]]

"Longworth" wrote:

> Wish that I were at Oshkosh this year. How big was the party?

Big turnout by the fence at the approach end of RWY 9. Lots of food and talk
while we all critiqued arriving pilots' approaches.

See you next year with your new panel!

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM