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Just Plane Noise[_2_]
July 28th 07, 01:14 PM
I do not like the idea of re-posting them here, but if you want to see
photos of the Mustangs tangling at Oshkosh, go here
http://www.thenorthwestern.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070728/OSH0101/707280376/1987
and click on Fatal Warbird Crash under Multimedia Photo Galleries on
the right side and down a bit. The pictures provide some support for
eyewitness descriptions: Precious Metal's propeller got into the tail
of Stang, shoving Stang onto its nose, while Precious metal flipped
over and exploded. The two were attempting to land in formation.

Jake
July 28th 07, 02:28 PM
I would like to know more about the pilots. Often people with enough money
to own a plane like this don't have enough time to fly to get and stay
proficient..

JakeInHartsel

russell[_2_]
July 28th 07, 03:01 PM
You will find that both pilots were very proficient, and flew together a
lot. They were very good friends and were in a movie made a few months
back... Thunder Over Reno. (Not out yet)




"Jake" > wrote in message
...
>I would like to know more about the pilots. Often people with enough money
> to own a plane like this don't have enough time to fly to get and stay
> proficient..
>
> JakeInHartsel

russell[_2_]
July 28th 07, 03:36 PM
http://www.aafo.com/hangartalk/showthread.php?p=47094#post47094

Jake
July 28th 07, 03:49 PM
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:01:46 +1000, russell wrote:

> You will find that both pilots were very proficient, and flew together a
> lot. They were very good friends and were in a movie made a few months
> back... Thunder Over Reno. (Not out yet)
>
If you know more about the pilot, particularly the one that was trailing, I
would be very interested.

JakeInHartsel

Jake
July 28th 07, 04:48 PM
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:36:56 +1000, russell wrote:

> http://www.aafo.com/hangartalk/showthread.php?p=47094#post47094

Thanks, eye witnesses are at best unreliable. It will be interesting to
see video assuming the NTSB allows it to be released in our lifetime. Of
course if the lawyers get involved you can forget about seeing it. I
appears that the rear pilot (Beck) would have been at fault if there wasn't
anything else that hasn't come to light.

JakeInHartsel

adelsonsl
July 28th 07, 07:22 PM
IF YOU DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF REPOSTING THIS SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. THEN WHY
DONT YOU POST YOUR PICTURES SO WE CAN ALL SEE THEM TOO. INSTEAD OF RUNNING
YOUR MOUTH IN THESE THREADS


"Just Plane Noise" > wrote in message
...
>I do not like the idea of re-posting them here, but if you want to see
> photos of the Mustangs tangling at Oshkosh, go here
> http://www.thenorthwestern.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070728/OSH0101/707280376/1987
> and click on Fatal Warbird Crash under Multimedia Photo Galleries on
> the right side and down a bit. The pictures provide some support for
> eyewitness descriptions: Precious Metal's propeller got into the tail
> of Stang, shoving Stang onto its nose, while Precious metal flipped
> over and exploded. The two were attempting to land in formation.

John Meyer
July 28th 07, 10:25 PM
In article >,
Jake > wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:36:56 +1000, russell wrote:
>
> > http://www.aafo.com/hangartalk/showthread.php?p=47094#post47094
>
> Thanks, eye witnesses are at best unreliable. It will be interesting to
> see video assuming the NTSB allows it to be released in our lifetime. Of
> course if the lawyers get involved you can forget about seeing it. I
> appears that the rear pilot (Beck) would have been at fault if there wasn't
> anything else that hasn't come to light.
>
> JakeInHartsel

Um, video already available for you to view:

http://www.aero-tv.net/index.cfm?videoid=00b0d640-e714-4b79-b17b-6f3b0f14
9c4d

Sorry to destroy your little conspiracy theory.

--
One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can
not grasp. - Ed Wood

John Meyer
July 28th 07, 10:27 PM
In article >,
Just Plane Noise > wrote:

> I do not like the idea of re-posting them here, but if you want to see
> photos of the Mustangs tangling at Oshkosh, go here
> http://www.thenorthwestern.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070728/OSH0101/707
> 280376/1987
> and click on Fatal Warbird Crash under Multimedia Photo Galleries on
> the right side and down a bit. The pictures provide some support for
> eyewitness descriptions: Precious Metal's propeller got into the tail
> of Stang, shoving Stang onto its nose, while Precious metal flipped
> over and exploded. The two were attempting to land in formation.

What a shame. But why the formation landing? What's the point? From the
video I watched, Precious Metal was clearly higher and faster than Stang.

--
One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can
not grasp. - Ed Wood

John Meyer
July 28th 07, 10:30 PM
In article >,
"adelsonsl" > wrote:

> IF YOU DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF REPOSTING THIS SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. THEN WHY
> DONT YOU POST YOUR PICTURES SO WE CAN ALL SEE THEM TOO. INSTEAD OF RUNNING
> YOUR MOUTH IN THESE THREADS
>
>


What a moron. If you can't see his pictures it's your own fault.

--
One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can
not grasp.*- Ed Wood

hielan' laddie
July 28th 07, 11:25 PM
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:30:16 -0400, John Meyer wrote
(in article >):

> In article >,
> "adelsonsl" > wrote:
>
>> IF YOU DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF REPOSTING THIS SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. THEN WHY
>> DONT YOU POST YOUR PICTURES SO WE CAN ALL SEE THEM TOO. INSTEAD OF RUNNING
>> YOUR MOUTH IN THESE THREADS
>>
>>
>
>
> What a moron. If you can't see his pictures it's your own fault.
>
>

Ignore 'em. They have a religious problem with YENC. Many have said that
they're gonna killfile those who post in YENC... which, as I've said before,
seems like a plan to me. Go for it, boys. Killfile away.

Tim Heise[_2_]
July 29th 07, 02:55 AM
"John Meyer" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "adelsonsl" > wrote:
>
>> IF YOU DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF REPOSTING THIS SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. THEN
>> WHY
>> DONT YOU POST YOUR PICTURES SO WE CAN ALL SEE THEM TOO. INSTEAD OF
>> RUNNING
>> YOUR MOUTH IN THESE THREADS
>>
>>
>
>
> What a moron. If you can't see his pictures it's your own fault.
>
> --
> One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can
> not grasp. - Ed Wood

How about simply a moment of silence for the familes of the deceased and
the pilots too?
....................
//
tbh

Andrew-S
July 29th 07, 07:56 AM
Tim, that's the really sad part in all this...
People are so wrapped up in the great yEnc debates that we are forgetting
the horrible tragedy that has unfolded at two great air shows in the past 72
hours... The families of both should be in our thoughts and here we are
arguing over something as trivial as a posting method. It is a given that
we as aviation fans have lost two of our greatest performers and both will
be terrible missed. However our loss is nothing compared to what the
families must be going thru.

Andrew



"Tim Heise" > wrote in message
. ..
> "John Meyer" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> "adelsonsl" > wrote:
>>
>>> IF YOU DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF REPOSTING THIS SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. THEN
>>> WHY
>>> DONT YOU POST YOUR PICTURES SO WE CAN ALL SEE THEM TOO. INSTEAD OF
>>> RUNNING
>>> YOUR MOUTH IN THESE THREADS
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> What a moron. If you can't see his pictures it's your own fault.
>>
>> --
>> One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can
>> not grasp. - Ed Wood
>
> How about simply a moment of silence for the familes of the deceased
> and the pilots too?
> ...................
> //
> tbh

Tim Heise[_2_]
July 29th 07, 06:05 PM
"Andrew-S" <I-Still-Hate-Spammers@Sorry-I had-to-leave-for-bit.com> wrote in
message ...
> Tim, that's the really sad part in all this...
> People are so wrapped up in the great yEnc debates that we are forgetting
> the horrible tragedy that has unfolded at two great air shows in the past
> 72 hours... The families of both should be in our thoughts and here we are
> arguing over something as trivial as a posting method. It is a given
> that we as aviation fans have lost two of our greatest performers and both
> will be terrible missed. However our loss is nothing compared to what the
> families must be going thru.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> "Tim Heise" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "John Meyer" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> "adelsonsl" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> IF YOU DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF REPOSTING THIS SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. THEN
>>>> WHY
>>>> DONT YOU POST YOUR PICTURES SO WE CAN ALL SEE THEM TOO. INSTEAD OF
>>>> RUNNING
>>>> YOUR MOUTH IN THESE THREADS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What a moron. If you can't see his pictures it's your own fault.
>>>
>>> --
>>> One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can
>>> not grasp. - Ed Wood
>>
>> How about simply a moment of silence for the familes of the deceased
>> and the pilots too?
>> ...................
>> //
>> tbh
>
>
Agreed........all that experience and talent...gone...

Clairbear
July 30th 07, 05:52 PM
"adelsonsl" > wrote in
:

> IF YOU DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF REPOSTING THIS SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. THEN
> WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR PICTURES SO WE CAN ALL SEE THEM TOO. INSTEAD OF
> RUNNING YOUR MOUTH IN THESE THREADS
>
>
> "Just Plane Noise" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I do not like the idea of re-posting them here, but if you want to see
>> photos of the Mustangs tangling at Oshkosh, go here
>> http://www.thenorthwestern.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070728/OSH
>> 0101/707280376/1987 and click on Fatal Warbird Crash under Multimedia
>> Photo Galleries on the right side and down a bit. The pictures
>> provide some support for eyewitness descriptions: Precious Metal's
>> propeller got into the tail of Stang, shoving Stang onto its nose,
>> while Precious metal flipped over and exploded. The two were
>> attempting to land in formation.
>
>

Gee you sure are a cheeky little monkey
When are you gonna post a "non-yEnc"photo

And stop harrassing other with your tone

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