EAA Museum

[Errol Groff]

A photo essay of my visit to the Experimental Aircraft Association
AirVenture Museum has been posted at


http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/EAA%20Museum%2008_2003/1.htm

Errol Groff
Instructor, Machine Tool Department
H.H. Ellis Tech
613 Upper Maple Street
Danielson, CT 06239

860 774 8511 x1811

http://pages.cthome.net/errol.groff/

http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/

[RobertR237]

In article >, Errol Groff
> writes:

>
>A photo essay of my visit to the Experimental Aircraft Association
>AirVenture Museum has been posted at
>
>
>http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/EAA%20Museum%2008_2003/1.htm
>
>Errol Groff
>Instructor, Machine Tool Department
>H.H. Ellis Tech
>613 Upper Maple Street
>Danielson, CT 06239
>
>860 774 8511 x1811
>
>http://pages.cthome.net/errol.groff/
>
>http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/
>
>
>

Errol,

Great presentation and thanks. I was lucky this year to visit the museum early
on Sunday morning before anybody else had arrived. I had almost an hour to
enjoy the museum and take vidio before anyone else arrived. It was great to be
able to take the time to enjoy the presentatioins without a crowd around. It
appears from your photos that you were able to enjoy the same experience.

Thanks again for sharing with everyone.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[Tim Williams]

"Errol Groff" > wrote in message
...
> A photo essay of my visit to the Experimental Aircraft Association
> AirVenture Museum has been posted at
>
>
> http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/EAA%20Museum%2008_2003/1.htm

I seem to remember that from years ago, thanks for the memories.

About the web page, is the right arrow supposed to be a dead link? ;)

Tim

--
In the immortal words of Ned Flanders: "No foot longs!"
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

[David O]

Errol Groff > wrote:
>
>A photo essay of my visit to the Experimental Aircraft Association
>AirVenture Museum has been posted at
>
>
>http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/EAA%20Museum%2008_2003/1.htm
>
>Errol Groff


Hey Errol! I see you've sort of adopted my "Oshkosh Scrapbook" format
as per our emails last year.

Here are some corrections and comments.

1) The background color on pages 1 and 3 defaults to my browser's
default background color while the rest of the pages have a white
background.

2) Your left arrows are disabled and your right arrow links are
broken. Perhaps the easiest fix is to simply remove the arrows from
your presentation.

3) The biplane on page 3 is an exact flying replica of the Laird Super
Solution in which Jimmy Doolittle won the 1931 Bendix Trophy race and
set a new cross country record. The replica was completed in December
of 2000 after more than 10,000 man-hours of work over a 2 1/2 year
period.

4) The jet on page 5 is the Williams V-Jet II. Here is a link to more
info,
http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/AST/GAP/wi0697.htm
and here is some inside poop -- Rutan didn't like the V tail and
thought a single vertical stab would be better but the plane was a
marketing tool for Williams engines and had to look snazzy so Williams
insisted on a V tail.

5) Page 12. The name of the character in the James Bond flick is
"Pussy Galore". The name of the *plane* is "Pushy Galore". :)

6) Page 13. "Loving's Love" was designed and built between 1947 and
1951 as a pylon racer by Neal Loving, a black man. Neal lost both of
his legs in an airplane crash in 1944 but used prostheses. After
completing his "Love" in 1951, Neal began racing it in the National
Air Races. Neal would later fly the plane from Detroit to Jamaica and
back. The plane in the museum is Loving's original. A few other
Loving's Loves have been built but only one remains flying today.

Cheers,

David O -- http://www.AirplaneZone.com -- Still working on this year's
Oshkosh Scrapbook

[Bob Engelhardt]

Errol Groff wrote:
> ... http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/EAA%20Museum%2008_2003/1.htm
....

Weird: Netscape converted the link to:
http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/_themes/ricepapr/rice1111.css

Which was "404 Not found"

IE opened it fine.

Bob

[Peter Dohm]

Tim Williams wrote:
>
> "Errol Groff" > wrote in message
> ...
> > A photo essay of my visit to the Experimental Aircraft Association
> > AirVenture Museum has been posted at
> >
> >
> > http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/EAA%20Museum%2008_2003/1.htm
>
> I seem to remember that from years ago, thanks for the memories.
>
> About the web page, is the right arrow supposed to be a dead link? ;)
>
> Tim
>
> --
> In the immortal words of Ned Flanders: "No foot longs!"
> Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

The arrows work fine for Netscape 4.61

Thanks for a great tour!

Peter

[Eastburn]

mY netscape didn't have any problem with it.
I'm using a real version not the AOL version. Guess I should upgrade
some day.

Just been using the real stuff for so many years.

Martin
--
Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn
@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

[Barnyard BOb --]

Eastburn > wrote:

>mY netscape didn't have any problem with it.
>I'm using a real version not the AOL version. Guess I should upgrade
>some day.
>
>Just been using the real stuff for so many years.
>
>Martin
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sorry, but not at all true.

The REAL DEAL is.....

MOZILLA.

Nutscrape is a cheap knockoff.



Barnyard BOb - I have seen the light, Dave O.

[Eastburn]

Bob - I just deleted MOSAIC from my other computer - that was the FIRST.
I was a Beta site for it and again when Netscape became a company (just
before)
was the Beta site for the first Netscape.

MOZILLA is the latest spin-off that took some of the firsts.

Martin [ I'm talking years ago not in the last couple. ]
--
Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn
@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder


Barnyard BOb -- wrote:
>
> Eastburn > wrote:
>
> >mY netscape didn't have any problem with it.
> >I'm using a real version not the AOL version. Guess I should upgrade
> >some day.
> >
> >Just been using the real stuff for so many years.
> >
> >Martin
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Sorry, but not at all true.
>
> The REAL DEAL is.....
>
> MOZILLA.
>
> Nutscrape is a cheap knockoff.
>
> Barnyard BOb - I have seen the light, Dave O.
>

[Barnyard BOb --]

>Bob - I just deleted MOSAIC from my other computer - that was the FIRST.
>I was a Beta site for it and again when Netscape became a company (just
>before)
>was the Beta site for the first Netscape.
>
>MOZILLA is the latest spin-off that took some of the firsts.
>
>Martin [ I'm talking years ago not in the last couple. ]
>--
>Martin Eastburn
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yeah....
Ran MOSAIC, myself.

However, several of years ago with teary eyes....
I let all that NEWER stuff go, along with all the
CP/M programs stored on 8 inch floppies. <g>

As a pack rat, I thought I was doing pretty good.
However, I'm probably not in the winner's circle.


Barnyard BOb --

[Tim Williams]

"Barnyard BOb --" > wrote in message
...
> As a pack rat, I thought I was doing pretty good.
> However, I'm probably not in the winner's circle.

Yeah, I think there's someone lurking here with ENIAC.

Tim

--
In the immortal words of Ned Flanders: "No foot longs!"
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

[Errol Groff]

Tim and all:

Sorry to be slow in responding. The right arrow as a dead link is a
result of my sloppy page building. On the John W. Brown Liberty Ship
series the arrow is the link. I don't quite know what happened but I
am sure that it is my bad.

Sorry.

Errol


On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:23:09 -0500, "Tim Williams"
> wrote:

>"Errol Groff" > wrote in message
...
>> A photo essay of my visit to the Experimental Aircraft Association
>> AirVenture Museum has been posted at
>>
>>
>> http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/EAA%20Museum%2008_2003/1.htm
>
>I seem to remember that from years ago, thanks for the memories.
>
>About the web page, is the right arrow supposed to be a dead link? ;)
>
>Tim

[Gary Coffman]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:28:33 -0500, "Tim Williams" > wrote:
>"Barnyard BOb --" > wrote in message
...
>> As a pack rat, I thought I was doing pretty good.
>> However, I'm probably not in the winner's circle.
>
>Yeah, I think there's someone lurking here with ENIAC.

Well, not quite that old, but I've got a Data General
Nova 1200 with 32k of core memory, a Cosmac Elf,
and a Sol 20. Somewhere lurking about is also a
Sinclair ZX81, and I just stumbled across my Radio
Shack Pocket Computer last week (essentially a
calculator that runs BASIC). Oh, I've also got a
Victor four function video display calculator (vector
display). All of them still work too.

Gary

[Blueskies]

"RobertR237" > wrote in message ...
>> >
> >Gary
> >
> >
>
> Young Whipper-Snapper.
>
> Real men wired boards!
>
>
> Bob Reed
> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>
>


Old guys, eh?

http://www.national.com/rap/

[Eastburn]

CP/M ? - I remember when that late comer came out - I had an
Altair 8800 (not A but later bought a B). In fact, five of us -
four 'kids' and Dad had Altiars and were active for some years
with each other. I had machine language, assembly, Advanced Basic,
Cobol, Fortran, Forth, CP/M (hard sector), and a ton of hardware and
software we all wrote and made.

Thanks for the trip ! -

Martin [cut teeth on pdp8, taught machine language on Digital 400 or
600...
........ Sun, Cray now PC's... :-) )
--
Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn
@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

[RobertR237]

In article m>, "Blueskies"
> writes:

>
>> Young Whipper-Snapper.
>>
>> Real men wired boards!
>>
>>
>> Bob Reed
>> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
>> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>>
>>
>
>
>Old guys, eh?
>
>http://www.national.com/rap/
>
>

This thread was about the programmers museum wasn't it?


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[Barnyard BOb --]

>CP/M ? - I remember when that late comer came out - I had an
>Altair 8800 (not A but later bought a B). In fact, five of us -
>four 'kids' and Dad had Altiars and were active for some years
>with each other. I had machine language, assembly, Advanced Basic,
>Cobol, Fortran, Forth, CP/M (hard sector), and a ton of hardware and
>software we all wrote and made.
>
>Thanks for the trip ! -
>
>Martin [cut teeth on pdp8, taught machine language on Digital 400 or
>600...
> ........ Sun, Cray now PC's... :-) )
>--
>Martin Eastburn,
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Whew...
Find any time to fly or build an airplane?


Barnyard BOb -

[Blueskies]

Programming and wiring boards...

http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=1449

--
Dan D.



..
"RobertR237" > wrote in message ...
> In article m>, "Blueskies"
> > writes:
>
> >
> >> Young Whipper-Snapper.
> >>
> >> Real men wired boards!
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob Reed
> >> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> >> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Old guys, eh?
> >
> >http://www.national.com/rap/
> >
> >
>
> This thread was about the programmers museum wasn't it?
>
>
> Bob Reed
> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>
> "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
> pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
> (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)
>

[Big John]

BOb

I'll wrestle you for the king 'pack rat' title.

I just gave away two RS Model II's with C/PM on them and a big box of
8" disks. Can't see where it made any difference in my pile to the
ceiling.

A short time ago I had to lose some weight to be able to slide
sideways in the narrow isle in my office (garage) to get to the
computer.

I've still got stuff that I shipped from Omaha, when I retired 31
years ago, to Houston that I have never opened down here.

As I have said for years, "One of these days"....................

King of the Pack Rats

Big John <G>

Some items that can be seen poking out of the 'pile'. All top of the
line in their day.

IBM Fortran course. (I used to learn Fortran working on my MA)
First version of OS2 that IBM released.
Lotus 123
SuperCalc 5
WordStar Pro
Basic I
etc, etc, etc.


On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 05:45:09 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
wrote:

>>Bob - I just deleted MOSAIC from my other computer - that was the FIRST.
>>I was a Beta site for it and again when Netscape became a company (just
>>before)
>>was the Beta site for the first Netscape.
>>
>>MOZILLA is the latest spin-off that took some of the firsts.
>>
>>Martin [ I'm talking years ago not in the last couple. ]
>>--
>>Martin Eastburn
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>Yeah....
>Ran MOSAIC, myself.
>
>However, several of years ago with teary eyes....
>I let all that NEWER stuff go, along with all the
>CP/M programs stored on 8 inch floppies. <g>
>
>As a pack rat, I thought I was doing pretty good.
>However, I'm probably not in the winner's circle.
>
>
>Barnyard BOb --
>
>

[Barnyard BOb --]

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:01:31 -0500, Big John >
wrote:

>BOb
>
>I'll wrestle you for the king 'pack rat' title.
>
>I just gave away two RS Model II's with C/PM on them and a big box of
>8" disks. Can't see where it made any difference in my pile to the
>ceiling.
>
>A short time ago I had to lose some weight to be able to slide
>sideways in the narrow isle in my office (garage) to get to the
>computer.
>
>I've still got stuff that I shipped from Omaha, when I retired 31
>years ago, to Houston that I have never opened down here.
>
>As I have said for years, "One of these days"....................
>
>King of the Pack Rats
>
> Big John <G>
>
>Some items that can be seen poking out of the 'pile'. All top of the
>line in their day.
>
>IBM Fortran course. (I used to learn Fortran working on my MA)
>First version of OS2 that IBM released.
>Lotus 123
>SuperCalc 5
>WordStar Pro
>Basic I
>etc, etc, etc.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Geez....
What a stroll down 'Memory Lane'.

I feel twenty years younger....
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..... than YOU. <g>


Barnyard BOb -

[Big John]

Bob

My first PC was a bare board and 2000+ parts.

Used for many years even after faster systems came out. Was bullet
proof.

Some of the programs (like designing atomic bombs <G>) were started
Friday afternoon and ran until finished Monday morning.

Big John


On 28 Aug 2003 22:21:51 GMT, (RobertR237)
wrote:

>In article >,
>(Gary Coffman) writes:
>
>>>
>>>Yeah, I think there's someone lurking here with ENIAC.
>>
>>Well, not quite that old, but I've got a Data General
>>Nova 1200 with 32k of core memory, a Cosmac Elf,
>>and a Sol 20. Somewhere lurking about is also a
>>Sinclair ZX81, and I just stumbled across my Radio
>>Shack Pocket Computer last week (essentially a
>>calculator that runs BASIC). Oh, I've also got a
>>Victor four function video display calculator (vector
>>display). All of them still work too.
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>
>
>Young Whipper-Snapper.
>
>Real men wired boards!
>
>
>Bob Reed
>www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
>KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>
>"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
>pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
>(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[RobertR237]

In article >, Big John
> writes:

>
>Robert
>
>Those were just some I could see on top of pile. Don't have any idea
>of what is underneath now :o( It's fallen over a few time so had to
>start stacking in a corner to the ceiling.
>
>Some day :o).............................................
>
>Big John
>
>

I finally threw out everything when I realized that I no longer had any
equipment that could read the disks. Still have more crap that I will never
use again.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[RobertR237]

In article >, Big John
> writes:

>
>Bob
>
>My first PC was a bare board and 2000+ parts.
>
>Used for many years even after faster systems came out. Was bullet
>proof.
>
>Some of the programs (like designing atomic bombs <G>) were started
>Friday afternoon and ran until finished Monday morning.
>
>Big John
>
>

I must admit that I didn't jump on the PC's immediately but only because I
already had a mini-computer at home. I was consulting and developing on
Datapoints at the time and had a real nice unit at home. I was real happy when
I bought my first PC and only paid a little of $5k for it. The Datapoint had
cost me over $30k used. It was worth it though, made a lot of money off that
machine.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[Jim Stockton]

RobertR237 wrote:
>
> In article >, Big John
> > writes:
>
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >Those were just some I could see on top of pile. Don't have any idea
> >of what is underneath now :o( It's fallen over a few time so had to
> >start stacking in a corner to the ceiling.
> >
> >Some day :o).............................................
> >
> >Big John
> >
> >
>
> I finally threw out everything when I realized that I no longer had any
> equipment that could read the disks. Still have more crap that I will never
> use again.
>
> Bob Reed
> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>
> "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
> pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
> (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

I broke down and sold my Nova 1200 at the sidewalk sale in Dallas a few
years ago. Still have the Imsai 8080 and several PDP11's as well as
newer Osborne and Compaq portable 1's. I just cant seem to clear it out.
At least I got rid of all the Model 33 Teletype machines when I built a
CRT terminal.
Jim Stockton

[Jim Stockton]

Richard Lamb wrote:
>
> Do they still have that big First Saturday electronics flea market
> in Dallas anymore?
>
> Jim Stockton wrote:
> >
> > RobertR237 wrote:
> > >
> > > In article >, Big John
> > > > writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Robert
> > > >
> > > >Those were just some I could see on top of pile. Don't have any idea
> > > >of what is underneath now :o( It's fallen over a few time so had to
> > > >start stacking in a corner to the ceiling.
> > > >
> > > >Some day :o).............................................
> > > >
> > > >Big John
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I finally threw out everything when I realized that I no longer had any
> > > equipment that could read the disks. Still have more crap that I will never
> > > use again.
> > >
> > > Bob Reed
> > > www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> > > KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
> > >
> > > "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
> > > pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
> > > (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)
> >
> > I broke down and sold my Nova 1200 at the sidewalk sale in Dallas a few
> > years ago. Still have the Imsai 8080 and several PDP11's as well as
> > newer Osborne and Compaq portable 1's. I just cant seem to clear it out.
> > At least I got rid of all the Model 33 Teletype machines when I built a
> > CRT terminal.
> > Jim Stockton

As far as I know it's still going. I think it's real close to where it
used to be. I'll check with a friend of mine as to location because he
is a regular there. I think they now charge to park and buy as well as
sell. It was great when it was under the freeway but I guess it got out
of hand and the city wanted to reign it in.
Jim Stockton

[Eastburn]

Turned a wheel and pushed the peddles and rolled the trim wheel -
Flying (or trying to) C-47 over farm country after plow time.
(100% full scale).

Later a few years ago - flew a 2M sail plane to several thousand feet
and
down using my gold seal remote control.

Not much time flying or playing. But I did log over ~1,000,000 NM
before
the cotton picken airlines started having air miles. That was a bore!

Martin
--
Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn
@ home at Lion's Lair with our computer
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

[Morgans]

"RobertR237" > wrote >
> I never sell the stuff, especially the computers. When they are no longer
> useful I take great pleasure in taking a sledge hammer to them. I loved
that
> commercial a while back showing the guy shoving the whole PC out the
window of
> a high rise. My idea is to take one of my old laptops, load it up and
drop it
> from a my plane at a mile up.
>
>
> Bob Reed

Yea, but then you don't get the joy of seeing it smash into a zillion
pieces!
--
Jim in NC

[RobertR237]

In article >, "Morgans"
> writes:

>
>"RobertR237" > wrote >
>> I never sell the stuff, especially the computers. When they are no longer
>> useful I take great pleasure in taking a sledge hammer to them. I loved
>that
>> commercial a while back showing the guy shoving the whole PC out the
>window of
>> a high rise. My idea is to take one of my old laptops, load it up and
>drop it
>> from a my plane at a mile up.
>>
>>
>> Bob Reed
>
> Yea, but then you don't get the joy of seeing it smash into a zillion
>pieces!
>--
>Jim in NC
>
>

OK, I will take the Col. Potter approach and shoot it with a gun. ;-)

A BIG GUN!


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[John Ousterhout]

On 03 Sep 2003 02:07:31 GMT, (RobertR237)
wrote:

>In article >, "Morgans"
> writes:
>
>>
>>"RobertR237" > wrote >
>>> I never sell the stuff, especially the computers. When they are no longer
>>> useful I take great pleasure in taking a sledge hammer to them. I loved
>>that
>>> commercial a while back showing the guy shoving the whole PC out the
>>window of
>>> a high rise. My idea is to take one of my old laptops, load it up and
>>drop it
>>> from a my plane at a mile up.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Reed
>>
>> Yea, but then you don't get the joy of seeing it smash into a zillion
>>pieces!
>>--
>>Jim in NC
>>
>>
>
>OK, I will take the Col. Potter approach and shoot it with a gun. ;-)
>
>A BIG GUN!
>
>
>Bob Reed


Bad Computer, BAD BAD COMPUTER! Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang !

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ousterj/hangar_doorstop.jpg

- John (44 Magnum) Ousterhout -

[RobertR237]

In article >, "Morgans"
> writes:

>
>That'll do!
>
>By the way, MASH is running on Hallmark channel till about 1:00 AM
>--
>Jim in NC
>
>

We are also buying the CD's for each year as they become available. It is
great watching them without being bombarded by commercials for itchy ass
ointment.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[Roger Halstead]

>
>As a thought...This computer is 2.8 *million* times faster than the

Oops...2.8 X10^9 / 1X10^6 = 2.8 X 10^3 = 2,800
That's what I get for doing math in my head at 4 AM

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

[Roger Halstead]

>>
>>OK, I will take the Col. Potter approach and shoot it with a gun. ;-)
>>
>>A BIG GUN!
>>
>>
>>Bob Reed
>
>
>Bad Computer, BAD BAD COMPUTER! Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang !
>
>http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ousterj/hangar_doorstop.jpg
>
>- John (44 Magnum) Ousterhout -
Yah need to tighten that group up a bit...unless ur gonna tell me it
was 200 yards off hand...then I'm impressed.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

[Model Flyer]

"Roger Halstead" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 16:18:25 -0400, "Morgans" >
> wrote:

> cost about the same as my first 15" EGA color monitor or maybe a
tad
> less and has close to the same display area as my hernia building
19"
> CRTs.

Must get one of those, a cousing of mine had a 21" Sony, he had it on
a small table behind his desk, this was because the screen was too
big for normal use, it also gave him the full use of his desk.:-)

>
> This current monster cost just a tiny bit less than a quarter of
the
> first computer (including the monitors keyboards, and printers) I

I started off with an ATARI ST-1040, it was OK but could never get
the much need word processor application I wanted, then I got myself
a 386 SX-16.

I used to think of myself as a writer, I only got the computer
because it was bound to be better than using a typewriter. It was
only then that I did an ICS course in PC repair, it's the only
certificate that I have other than my gun permit or driving license.
Since then I've given up all thought of writing for a living,
computers dominated my waking hours. I'm now doing printer repairs,
bit more interesting than reinstalling some applications on a clients
computer because he repeatedly runs the restore CD.:-)

> used a model 28 Teletype for the first printer. If I include the
two
> scanners then this one cost about a third of the original.OTOH we
> didn't even have scanners let alone those that could scan a
document
> directly into a word processor.
>

That was the job of the many operators employed since computers
became the norm in businesses, since the introduction of scanners and
OCR many of these workers are now redundant. being flame
resistant................. or er.

Now that I've made a bit of money I'm going back to my ppl, hope to
start it before the end of next month, November is usually nice here
in Ireland.
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> The other three are a bit slower with the slowest being 1.9 GHz
> and two at 2 GHz.
>
>
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
> www.rogerhalstead.com
> N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)