History Channel debunks 9/11 conspiracies

[Gattman[_2_]]

Hooray for The History Channel, who aired a program last night that
presented one 9/11 conspiracy theory after another and blew them all out of
the sky like clay pigeons. It also demonstrated why Americans view these
theories with such hostility and anger.

Of course it won't change the minds of the believers, but it'll help prevent
them from planting misinformation in other people's heads.

-c

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Gattman wrote:
> Hooray for The History Channel, who aired a program last night that
> presented one 9/11 conspiracy theory after another and blew them all out of
> the sky like clay pigeons.

That was a repeat, as I've seen it in the past. Interesting program,
but I'll agree it'll only generate more "yabuts" from the tin foil hat
crowd.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
t...
>
> That was a repeat, as I've seen it in the past. Interesting program, but
> I'll agree it'll only generate more "yabuts" from the tin foil hat crowd.
>

Absolutely. To them, the more that is said to counter their "argument" the
more it proves how deep the conspiracy runs.

[Gattman[_2_]]

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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>
> "B A R R Y" > wrote in message

>> That was a repeat, as I've seen it in the past. Interesting program,
>> but I'll agree it'll only generate more "yabuts" from the tin foil hat
>> crowd.
>>

> Absolutely. To them, the more that is said to counter their "argument"
> the more it proves how deep the conspiracy runs.

One of the theories they suggested but didn't fully nuke was the assertion
that a licensed pilot with 250 hours couldn't have flown a jet into the
Pentagon.

Granted, I haven't tried this, the conspiracy theorists don't seem to have
asked many pilots.
-c

[Robert M. Gary]

On Aug 21, 9:38 am, "Gattman" > wrote:
> Hooray for The History Channel, who aired a program last night that
> presented one 9/11 conspiracy theory after another and blew them all out of
> the sky like clay pigeons. It also demonstrated why Americans view these
> theories with such hostility and anger.
>
> Of course it won't change the minds of the believers, but it'll help prevent
> them from planting misinformation in other people's heads.
>
> -c

I think its funny when people say 'what happened to the plane that hit
the Pentagon, why wasn't there reckage?'. I show them the youtube
video of the F-4 flying into a wall and it turning into dust.

-Robert

[Gattman[_2_]]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...

> I think its funny when people say 'what happened to the plane that hit
> the Pentagon, why wasn't there reckage?'. I show them the youtube
> video of the F-4 flying into a wall and it turning into dust.

....at which point they move on to someplace else and ask "What happened to
the plane that hit the Pentagon..."

At this risk of giving more attention to the stupid conspiracy film, here's
the link to "Loose Change 911": http://www.loosechange911.com/
Looks like it was put together by a bunch of 25-year-olds who were, of
course, all there and know everything about everything.

The History Channel didn't even try to be objective about it. They just
kept blasting away at the theories. On the Loose Change forums, though, of
course you can learn how the History Channel experts are involved in the
conspiracy.

-c

[Dan Luke[_2_]]

"Gattman" wrote:

> One of the theories they suggested but didn't fully nuke was the assertion
> that a licensed pilot with 250 hours couldn't have flown a jet into the
> Pentagon.
>
> Granted, I haven't tried this, the conspiracy theorists don't seem to have
> asked many pilots.

There was one here asking us to confirm just that.

He didn't get the answer he wanted. When every single pilot told him he was
FOS, he accused us all of being in denial!

Even for usenet, the irony of that was priceless.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Dan Luke wrote:

>
> He didn't get the answer he wanted. When every single pilot told him he was
> FOS, he accused us all of being in denial!
>
> Even for usenet, the irony of that was priceless.
>

"Truth"? <G>

[NW_Pilot]

"Gattman" > wrote in message
...
>
> Hooray for The History Channel, who aired a program last night that
> presented one 9/11 conspiracy theory after another and blew them all out
> of the sky like clay pigeons. It also demonstrated why Americans view
> these theories with such hostility and anger.
>
> Of course it won't change the minds of the believers, but it'll help
> prevent them from planting misinformation in other people's heads.
>
> -c
>

This is long about 2 hours it is free also!

Hints on religion 911 and Central Bank (Fed Reserve) & North American Union.

Take a look at http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Gattman" > wrote in message
...
>
> Hooray for The History Channel, who aired a program last night that
> presented one 9/11 conspiracy theory after another and blew them all out
> of the sky like clay pigeons. It also demonstrated why Americans view
> these theories with such hostility and anger.
>
> Of course it won't change the minds of the believers, but it'll help
> prevent them from planting misinformation in other people's heads.
>


Next thing you know, they will be trying to tell us that the alien autopsies
were fake and the moon landings were real - where does this end!!!!!!

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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[Bob Noel]

In article >,
"Gattman" > wrote:

> Hooray for The History Channel, who aired a program last night that
> presented one 9/11 conspiracy theory after another and blew them all out of
> the sky like clay pigeons.

talk about easy pickings....

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Gattman" < wrote
>
> Hooray for The History Channel, who aired a program last night that presented
> one 9/11 conspiracy theory after another and blew them all out of the sky like
> clay pigeons. It also demonstrated why Americans view these theories with such
> hostility and anger.
>
> Of course it won't change the minds of the believers, but it'll help prevent
> them from planting misinformation in other people's heads.

I met one of the lunatics and was forced to listen to him revel me and a few
others with tales of conspiracy, while waiting for my oil change to be done.

It was amazing, as he gave all of the reasons why this had taken place, to a
couple people more gullible than me that made the mistake of acting interested.

I attempted to ask him about one point in his argument, and asked him if a more
logical reason could be the cause, which he ignored and started spouting
something else. I gave up, and remained quite until he left, at which time I
proceeded to tell the other people that he was crazy as hell, and gave the
complete and logical counter arguments to several of his points.

Right before he left, he said something like, Yeah, and some people still
believe that we really landed on the moon, too.

Wow. I mean, WOW ! ! ! I had always read about people like him, but I had no
idea that they were that stupid in person.

I came home all worked up, and told my wife all about him. She laughed her ass
off. <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Gattman" > wrote
>
> The History Channel didn't even try to be objective about it. They just
> kept blasting away at the theories. On the Loose Change forums, though, of
> course you can learn how the History Channel experts are involved in the
> conspiracy.

Do you remember the name of the show? I'll have to try and catch it.
--
Jim in NC

[Gattman[_2_]]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gattman" > wrote
>>
>> The History Channel didn't even try to be objective about it. They just
>> kept blasting away at the theories. On the Loose Change forums, though,
>> of course you can learn how the History Channel experts are involved in
>> the conspiracy.
>
> Do you remember the name of the show? I'll have to try and catch it.

I think it was "9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/4220582.html

The fruitcake conspiracy theory kids are at http://www.loosechange911.com/ .
As somebody else said, they have to keep revising their story when their
theories are shot down. They're all mid-20s and probably went to college,
you know, so they know everything and everybody else doesn't.

-c

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message
...
> "Gattman" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Hooray for The History Channel, who aired a program last night that
>> presented one 9/11 conspiracy theory after another and blew them all out
>> of the sky like clay pigeons. It also demonstrated why Americans view
>> these theories with such hostility and anger.
>>
>> Of course it won't change the minds of the believers, but it'll help
>> prevent them from planting misinformation in other people's heads.
>>
>
>
> Next thing you know, they will be trying to tell us that the alien
> autopsies were fake and the moon landings were real - where does this
> end!!!!!!
>
Here? http://city-journal.org/html/17_3_peace_racket.html

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
"Gattman" > wrote:

> "Morgans" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gattman" > wrote
> >>
> >> The History Channel didn't even try to be objective about it. They just
> >> kept blasting away at the theories. On the Loose Change forums, though,
> >> of course you can learn how the History Channel experts are involved in
> >> the conspiracy.
> >
> > Do you remember the name of the show? I'll have to try and catch it.
>
> I think it was "9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction"
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/4220582.html
>
> The fruitcake conspiracy theory kids are at http://www.loosechange911.com/ .
> As somebody else said, they have to keep revising their story when their
> theories are shot down. They're all mid-20s and probably went to college,
> you know, so they know everything and everybody else doesn't.
>
> -c

AND -- they all probably majored in "sciences" like sociology,
psychology, political science, etc. and now call themselves "scientists."

[george]

On Aug 22, 4:11 pm, Orval Fairbairn > wrote:


>
> AND -- they all probably majored in "sciences" like sociology,
> psychology, political science, etc. and now call themselves "scientists."

Yup. most of the degrees they claim to be on their 'side' happen to be
theologians and such like

[Bob Fry]

>>>>> "Gattman" == Gattman > writes:

Gattman> One of the theories they suggested but didn't fully nuke
Gattman> was the assertion that a licensed pilot with 250 hours
Gattman> couldn't have flown a jet into the Pentagon.

I have around 800 hours as a PP-ASEL. No IFR ticket. Most of my time
in Cessnas, Cubs, and an Aircoupe. Most advanced airplane I've logged
time in is 30 hours in a C-182.

I posted here before about this, but will post the relevant part
again: a few months ago I had an opportunity to "fly" a full-motion
DC-10 simulator for about 6 hours (including short breaks), shared
with 2 other guys, so maybe 3 hours in either front seat and an hour
or more in the 3rd seat (flight engineer). We were all VFR guys. The
instructor ran us through take-off, manuvering, and landing, both
hand-flying and by the book which involves mostly setting the
autopilot and associated buttons, knobs, dials, and bugs.

The bottom line: we all could take-off and fly the thing after an hour
or two. Landing wasn't a big deal either. The reality is that with
no emergencies to bother with it was not hugely more difficult to
manuever than, say, my little Aircoupe. Being a computer nerd type
helps. So could a pilot with 250 flight hours and 10-20 hours in a
full-motion sim, and a death wish, fly a commercial jet into the
Pentagon? You bet.
--
"Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time
reading it." - Moses Hadas