The fix is in

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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4

What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?

So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.

[Robert M. Gary]

On Aug 22, 10:42 am, wrote:
> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4
>
> What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?
>
> So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.

You should read the article that you sent. According to the article a
case has been filed with the U.S. District Court in SF. That is the
U.S. anti-trust law right there.

-Robert

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:42:21 -0700, wrote in
. com>:

>http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4
>
>What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?
>
>So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.


The fix has been in since Bush was elected. And now with Bush's new
Chief Justice, there is little hope of the oil cartel being brought to
justice. And if that's not bad enough, we taxpayers are subsidizing
US oil producers while they reap record profits.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2805859
By H. JOSEF HEBERT Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON Jan 19, 2007 (AP)

The House rolled back billions of dollars in oil industry
subsidies Thursday in what supporters hailed as a new direction in
energy policy toward more renewable fuels. ...

[Robert M. Gary]

On Aug 22, 1:32 pm, Larry Dighera > wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:42:21 -0700, wrote in
> . com>:
>
> >http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4
>
> >What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?
>
> >So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.
>
> The fix has been in since Bush was elected. And now with Bush's new
> Chief Justice, there is little hope of the oil cartel being brought to
> justice. And if that's not bad enough, we taxpayers are subsidizing
> US oil producers while they reap record profits.
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2805859
> By H. JOSEF HEBERT Associated Press Writer
> WASHINGTON Jan 19, 2007 (AP)
>
> The House rolled back billions of dollars in oil industry
> subsidies Thursday in what supporters hailed as a new direction in
> energy policy toward more renewable fuels. ...

How is "rolling back subsidies" subsidizing oil companies (i.e.
"rollback" means stopping, not starting)? You guys are working in
sound bytes and not actually reading what you are posting.

-Robert

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:56:14 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
> wrote in
om>:

>On Aug 22, 1:32 pm, Larry Dighera > wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:42:21 -0700, wrote in
>> . com>:
>>
>> >http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4
>>
>> >What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?
>>
>> >So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.
>>
>> The fix has been in since Bush was elected. And now with Bush's new
>> Chief Justice, there is little hope of the oil cartel being brought to
>> justice. And if that's not bad enough, we taxpayers are subsidizing
>> US oil producers while they reap record profits.
>>
>> http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2805859
>> By H. JOSEF HEBERT Associated Press Writer
>> WASHINGTON Jan 19, 2007 (AP)
>>
>> The House rolled back billions of dollars in oil industry
>> subsidies Thursday in what supporters hailed as a new direction in
>> energy policy toward more renewable fuels. ...
>
>How is "rolling back subsidies" subsidizing oil companies (i.e.
>"rollback" means stopping, not starting)? You guys are working in
>sound bytes and not actually reading what you are posting.
>
>-Robert

The point is, that the oil companies have been receiving subsidies all
the while they are reaping record profits. That isn't right. It is
only recently since the tide turned in Congress that the House has
authored a bill to roll back those payments of our tax dollars to
profiteering oil companies (whom it now appears have been guilty of
price fixing).

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4
>
> What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?

How much do you want to bet? Say, $5000?

>
> So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.

Yup...keeping prices to retailers high will really help their sales, and
running their retailers out of business will help, too.

Here's a dollar: buy a clue.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Aug 22, 1:32 pm, Larry Dighera > wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:42:21 -0700, wrote in

>>
>> The House rolled back billions of dollars in oil industry
>> subsidies Thursday in what supporters hailed as a new direction in
>> energy policy toward more renewable fuels. ...
>
> How is "rolling back subsidies" subsidizing oil companies (i.e.
> "rollback" means stopping, not starting)? You guys are working in
> sound bytes and not actually reading what you are posting.

Surprised?

[John T]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message

>
> ...profiteering oil companies (whom it now appears have been guilty of
> price fixing).

Based on what evidence?

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[Robert M. Gary]

On Aug 22, 3:25 pm, Larry Dighera > wrote:

> The point is, that the oil companies have been receiving subsidies all
> the while they are reaping record profits. That isn't right.

What do you know about these subsidies. One man's "subsidies" is
another man's tax break for employing Americans, etc. I don't know
what the subsidides were based on.

> (whom it now appears have been guilty of
> price fixing).

What country do you live in? In the U.S. they are not guilty of price
fixing until so determined by a court of law. Being charged with
something does not equal being guilty (at least in the U.S.)

-Robert

[[email protected]]

On Aug 22, 4:30 pm, "Matt Barrow" >
wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> >http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4
>
> > What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?
>
> How much do you want to bet? Say, $5000?
>
>
>
> > So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.
>
> Yup...keeping prices to retailers high will really help their sales, and
> running their retailers out of business will help, too.
>
> Here's a dollar: buy a clue.

Send $100 to my paypal account so I can buy a really big one!

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

> wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Aug 22, 4:30 pm, "Matt Barrow" >
> wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> oups.com...
>>
>> >http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4
>>
>> > What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?
>>
>> How much do you want to bet? Say, $5000?
>>
>>
>>
>> > So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.
>>
>> Yup...keeping prices to retailers high will really help their sales, and
>> running their retailers out of business will help, too.
>>
>> Here's a dollar: buy a clue.
>
> Send $100 to my paypal account so I can buy a really big one!

I suspect, based on your original comment, that even the $1.00 would be a
waste, given that you don't comprehend something that a business student in
their first semester understands.

[[email protected]]

On Aug 23, 3:19 am, "Matt Barrow" >
wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ps.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 22, 4:30 pm, "Matt Barrow" >
> > wrote:
> >> > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> >> >http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070822/gas_station_lawsuit.html?.v=4
>
> >> > What do you want to bet that the same thing is happening with 100LL?
>
> >> How much do you want to bet? Say, $5000?
>
> >> > So much for U.S. anti-trust laws.
>
> >> Yup...keeping prices to retailers high will really help their sales, and
> >> running their retailers out of business will help, too.
>
> >> Here's a dollar: buy a clue.
>
> > Send $100 to my paypal account so I can buy a really big one!
>
> I suspect, based on your original comment, that even the $1.00 would be a
> waste, given that you don't comprehend something that a business student in
> their first semester understands.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Matt,

Lighten up, the original post was there just to annoy you... you fell
for the bait!

Dean

[Gattman[_2_]]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...

> What country do you live in? In the U.S. they are not guilty of price
> fixing until so determined by a court of law. Being charged with
> something does not equal being guilty (at least in the U.S.)

My wife noticed after the elections in November that the price of gasoline
at the stations around our house dropped, uniformly, one dime per gallon
within two days after the election.

We chalked it off to coincidence, but, it was a perfect dime, not nine
cents, eleven cents, etc. Maybe it's nothing, but if the stations are
calling foul, it's worth listening to.

-c

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Gattman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>> What country do you live in? In the U.S. they are not guilty of price
>> fixing until so determined by a court of law. Being charged with
>> something does not equal being guilty (at least in the U.S.)
>
> My wife noticed after the elections in November that the price of gasoline
> at the stations around our house dropped, uniformly, one dime per gallon
> within two days after the election.
>
> We chalked it off to coincidence, but, it was a perfect dime, not nine
> cents, eleven cents, etc. Maybe it's nothing, but if the stations are
> calling foul, it's worth listening to.

And then a couple months later they shot up (from around $2.10/gal) and
eventually ened up nearly a dollar higher at around $3.10.

I wish those collusionists would make up their mind.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Matt Barrow wrote:
> "Gattman" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>
>>> What country do you live in? In the U.S. they are not guilty of
>>> price fixing until so determined by a court of law. Being charged
>>> with something does not equal being guilty (at least in the U.S.)
>>
>> My wife noticed after the elections in November that the price of
>> gasoline at the stations around our house dropped, uniformly, one
>> dime per gallon within two days after the election.
>>
>> We chalked it off to coincidence, but, it was a perfect dime, not
>> nine cents, eleven cents, etc. Maybe it's nothing, but if the
>> stations are calling foul, it's worth listening to.
>
> And then a couple months later they shot up (from around $2.10/gal) and
> eventually ened up nearly a dollar higher at around $3.10.
>
> I wish those collusionists would make up their mind.

It was widely believed that the gas stations here (El Dorado AR) were
talking and pretty much setting the price of gas in town. The price here was
usually about 4 or 5 cents higher in surrounding towns even though the
refinery is here.

The lo-cal newspaper started printing, each week the average price here and
from other cities that are located within about 100 or 150 miles of us. The
first couple of weeks our average price was higher. Now we are either at or
below the neighboring towns.

It wasn't BIG OIL doing the price fixing if it was happening.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> Matt Barrow wrote:
>> "Gattman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> We chalked it off to coincidence, but, it was a perfect dime, not
>>> nine cents, eleven cents, etc. Maybe it's nothing, but if the
>>> stations are calling foul, it's worth listening to.
>>
>> And then a couple months later they shot up (from around $2.10/gal) and
>> eventually ened up nearly a dollar higher at around $3.10.
>>
>> I wish those collusionists would make up their mind.
>
> It was widely believed that the gas stations here (El Dorado AR) were
> talking and pretty much setting the price of gas in town. The price here
> was usually about 4 or 5 cents higher in surrounding towns even though the
> refinery is here.
>
> The lo-cal newspaper started printing, each week the average price here
> and from other cities that are located within about 100 or 150 miles of
> us. The first couple of weeks our average price was higher. Now we are
> either at or below the neighboring towns.
>
> It wasn't BIG OIL doing the price fixing if it was happening.

You've probably seen this website, but isn't it interesting: here in my
neighborhood, there's 15 cents difference just on this side of town.

http://autos.msn.com/everyday/GasStations.aspx?m=1&l=1&zip=82009&x=12&y=7

Note #1 and #21 - both Conoco, and 9 cents difference. And #1 is right at
the freeway (typically more expensive), #21 is "in town".


--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

[Robert M. Gary]

On Aug 23, 11:59 am, "Matt Barrow" >
wrote:
> "Gattman" > wrote in message

> And then a couple months later they shot up (from around $2.10/gal) and
> eventually ened up nearly a dollar higher at around $3.10.
>
> I wish those collusionists would make up their mind.

I love how in the minds of some the GOP sit around and try to figure
out how to set prices of gas in BFD City, Iowa in order to fix an
election! ;)

-Robert

[Judah]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in news:1187825989.642524.322890
@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> What country do you live in? In the U.S. they are not guilty of price
> fixing until so determined by a court of law. Being charged with
> something does not equal being guilty (at least in the U.S.)

Tell that to OJ.