Re: No wing runner?

[Steve Leonard]

Nah, you guys have all got it wrong! Fly a 1-26!
You will land out far more often, get lots more practice
at no wing runner takeoffs, and you have those big
a$$ tip wheels built in! :-)

Steve Leonard
(Never flown a 1-26, but I learned in a TG-3A)

[Michael Ash]

Steve Leonard > wrote:
> Nah, you guys have all got it wrong! Fly a 1-26!
> You will land out far more often, get lots more practice
> at no wing runner takeoffs, and you have those big
> a$$ tip wheels built in! :-)

If you land a 1-26 in a space large enough to accomodate a tow plane,
you're doing it all wrong. :)

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software

[[email protected]]

On Aug 27, 5:36 am, Steve Leonard >
wrote:
> Nah, you guys have all got it wrong! Fly a 1-26!
> You will land out far more often, get lots more practice
> at no wing runner takeoffs, and you have those big
> a$$ tip wheels built in! :-)
>
> Steve Leonard
> (Never flown a 1-26, but I learned in a TG-3A)

I often wondered about those tip wheels!!

I mean where basic understandings of drag and wing tip airflow even a
consideration in the 1-26.

Regards

Al

[shawn]

wrote:
> On Aug 27, 5:36 am, Steve Leonard >
> wrote:
>> Nah, you guys have all got it wrong! Fly a 1-26!
>> You will land out far more often, get lots more practice
>> at no wing runner takeoffs, and you have those big
>> a$$ tip wheels built in! :-)
>>
>> Steve Leonard
>> (Never flown a 1-26, but I learned in a TG-3A)
>
> I often wondered about those tip wheels!!
>
> I mean where basic understandings of drag and wing tip airflow even a
> consideration in the 1-26.

Yes :-)


Shawn

[Lew Hartswick]

wrote:
> On Aug 27, 5:36 am, Steve Leonard >
> wrote:
>
>>Nah, you guys have all got it wrong! Fly a 1-26!
>>You will land out far more often, get lots more practice
>>at no wing runner takeoffs, and you have those big
>>a$$ tip wheels built in! :-)
>>
>>Steve Leonard
>>(Never flown a 1-26, but I learned in a TG-3A)
>
>
> I often wondered about those tip wheels!!
>
> I mean where basic understandings of drag and wing tip airflow even a
> consideration in the 1-26.
>
> Regards
>
> Al

Of course not.There were this pair of barn doors and an orange
crate around and ......... :-)
...lew...

[Nyal Williams]

Aw, c'mon, guys! You're acting like your ancestors
didn't climb down out of the trees; well, maybe your's
are still up there. What's wrong with heritage gliders?

At 21:43 27 August 2007, Lew Hartswick wrote:
wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 5:36 am, Steve Leonard
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Nah, you guys have all got it wrong! Fly a 1-26!
>>>You will land out far more often, get lots more practice
>>>at no wing runner takeoffs, and you have those big
>>>a$$ tip wheels built in! :-)
>>>
>>>Steve Leonard
>>>(Never flown a 1-26, but I learned in a TG-3A)
>>
>>
>> I often wondered about those tip wheels!!
>>
>> I mean where basic understandings of drag and wing
>>tip airflow even a
>> consideration in the 1-26.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Al
>
>Of course not.There were this pair of barn doors and
>an orange
>crate around and ......... :-)
> ...lew...
>

[Lew Hartswick]

> At 21:43 27 August 2007, Lew Hartswick wrote:
wrote:
>>>On Aug 27, 5:36 am, Steve Leonard
>>>wrote:
>>>>Nah, you guys have all got it wrong! Fly a 1-26!
>>>>You will land out far more often, get lots more practice
>>>>at no wing runner takeoffs, and you have those big
>>>>a$$ tip wheels built in! :-)
>>>>Steve Leonard
>>>>(Never flown a 1-26, but I learned in a TG-3A)
>>>I often wondered about those tip wheels!!>
>>>I mean where basic understandings of drag and wing
>>>tip airflow even a
>>>consideration in the 1-26.
>>>Regards
>>>Al
>>Of course not.There were this pair of barn doors and
>>an orange
>>crate around and ......... :-)
>> ...lew...

Nyal Williams wrote:
> Aw, c'mon, guys! You're acting like your ancestors
> didn't climb down out of the trees; well, maybe your's
> are still up there. What's wrong with heritage gliders?

I'm sure you drive a Model T car also. :-)
...lew...

[Nyal Williams]

If I had one I would! They were and are fun. Some
people collect them and drive them for a lark -- the
kind of experience you can't get from a new, high-end
car which would doubtless be more comfortable and more
efficient.

At 03:01 28 August 2007, Lew Hartswick wrote:
>
>> At 21:43 27 August 2007, Lew Hartswick wrote:
wrote:
>>>>On Aug 27, 5:36 am, Steve Leonard
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>Nah, you guys have all got it wrong! Fly a 1-26!
>>>>>You will land out far more often, get lots more practice
>>>>>at no wing runner takeoffs, and you have those big
>>>>>a$$ tip wheels built in! :-)
>>>>>Steve Leonard
>>>>>(Never flown a 1-26, but I learned in a TG-3A)
>>>>I often wondered about those tip wheels!!>
>>>>I mean where basic understandings of drag and wing
>>>>tip airflow even a
>>>>consideration in the 1-26.
>>>>Regards
>>>>Al
>>>Of course not.There were this pair of barn doors and
>>>an orange
>>>crate around and ......... :-)
>>> ...lew...
>
>Nyal Williams wrote:
> > Aw, c'mon, guys! You're acting like your ancestors
> > didn't climb down out of the trees; well, maybe your's
> > are still up there. What's wrong with heritage gliders?
>
>I'm sure you drive a Model T car also. :-)
> ...lew...
>

[kirk.stant]

Ahh yes, the pleasures of a sports canopy (open cockpit, to those not
familiar with the breed) 1-26 on a warm summer afternoon, coring a
corn husk - marked thermal, chilling out at cloud base - then barely
making it back to the field after drifting downwind....

Drag, I spit in your face!

Kirk
66

[Tony Verhulst]

kirk.stant wrote
> Drag, I spit in your face!

I fart in your general direction.

Tony "ducking" V.

[[email protected]]

On Aug 28, 8:31 am, "kirk.stant" > wrote:
> Ahh yes, the pleasures of a sports canopy (open cockpit, to those not
> familiar with the breed) 1-26 on a warm summer afternoon, coring a
> corn husk - marked thermal, chilling out at cloud base - then barely
> making it back to the field after drifting downwind....
>
> Drag, I spit in your face!
>
> Kirk
> 66

thats the problem with trying to get back to the airport Kirk. I had
one exciting flight like that. Was out thermalling matt michael in
his lark and eventually noticed i was about 4 miles downwind at 4 or
5000 feet. yikes! turn into the wind and it was like the world just
stopped moving. made it back though.

[Michael Ash]

wrote:
> On Aug 28, 8:31 am, "kirk.stant" > wrote:
>> Ahh yes, the pleasures of a sports canopy (open cockpit, to those not
>> familiar with the breed) 1-26 on a warm summer afternoon, coring a
>> corn husk - marked thermal, chilling out at cloud base - then barely
>> making it back to the field after drifting downwind....
>>
>> Drag, I spit in your face!
>
> thats the problem with trying to get back to the airport Kirk. I had
> one exciting flight like that. Was out thermalling matt michael in
> his lark and eventually noticed i was about 4 miles downwind at 4 or
> 5000 feet. yikes! turn into the wind and it was like the world just
> stopped moving. made it back though.

Hear hear. Same thing happened to me, except I was more like 3 miles
downwind at 2000 feet. I did just barely make it back.

Next time that happened I said "screw it" and ended up landing 30 miles
away.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software

[kirk.stant]

On Aug 28, 8:46 am, Tony Verhulst > wrote:
> kirk.stant wrote
>
> > Drag, I spit in your face!
>
> I fart in your general direction.
>
> Tony "ducking" V.

Sniff sniff? - aha, lift!

Try that in your hermetically sealed ubersegelflugmachine!

Oh oh, my LS6, she is giving me the evil eye...

Kirk
66

[[email protected]]

On Aug 28, 10:44 am, "kirk.stant" > wrote:
> On Aug 28, 8:46 am, Tony Verhulst > wrote:
>
> > kirk.stant wrote
>
> > > Drag, I spit in your face!
>
> > I fart in your general direction.
>
> > Tony "ducking" V.
>
> Sniff sniff? - aha, lift!
>
> Try that in your hermetically sealed ubersegelflugmachine!
>
> Oh oh, my LS6, she is giving me the evil eye...

Hit it with a stick then...

Al

[Chip Bearden]

"kirk.stant" wrote:
> Sniff sniff? - aha, lift!
>
> Try that in your hermetically sealed ubersegelflugmachine!

Kirk,

I did. One day by myself at the Hobbs Standard Class Nats last month I
located two thermals by sight--a refinery burning off gas in a large
flame and, later, a dust devil. I used my olfactory sense to help core
them both...in my ASW 24 (albeit with the nose vent wide open!).

The refinery thermal smell was more powerful but the dust devil-
spawned thermal had a distinct "agricultural" odor, too. They were
both narrow and fairly strong and I needed all the help I could get
staying centered. I flew in and out of the refinery thermal several
times before I finally got it cored.

Chip Bearden
ASW 24 "JB"
USA