XM Weather in Canada

[randall g]

I just bought the Garmin 496 and I want to sign up for the aviation
weather service. Unfortunately I live in Canada. When I called to
subscribe they said they couldn't sign me up and I should contact XM
Canada. So I called them, and they do not offer this service at all,
although they rep thought they would someday.

I guess what I need to do is to provide a US address in order to
subscribe to XM USA. I suppose I could make one up, or hire a PO Box
somewhere in the US.

If you subscribe to XM Weather, do they actually send stuff to your
address? Is it important?

If you are a Canadian subscriber to XM Weather, how did you do it? Does
your Canadian credit card work, or do you need to use a card drawn on a
US bank?


randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
http://www.telemark.net/randallg
Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

[Gig 601XL Builder]

randall g wrote:
> I just bought the Garmin 496 and I want to sign up for the aviation
> weather service. Unfortunately I live in Canada. When I called to
> subscribe they said they couldn't sign me up and I should contact XM
> Canada. So I called them, and they do not offer this service at all,
> although they rep thought they would someday.
>
> I guess what I need to do is to provide a US address in order to
> subscribe to XM USA. I suppose I could make one up, or hire a PO Box
> somewhere in the US.
>
> If you subscribe to XM Weather, do they actually send stuff to your
> address? Is it important?
>
> If you are a Canadian subscriber to XM Weather, how did you do it?
> Does your Canadian credit card work, or do you need to use a card
> drawn on a US bank?
>
>
> randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
> http://www.telemark.net/randallg
> Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
> http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
> Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

Not an XM Weather subscriber yet but as an XM radio customer and someone
that plans to buy a 496 soon, I can't think of anything they would mail you.

Got any friends on this side of the border? Use their address.

[gwengler]

Ask COPA, in particular Kevin Psutka. He knows how to do it.
Gerd

[karl gruber[_1_]]

XM weather already shows most of Canada's weather as it is broadcast now. It
has ALL the METARs and most of the country shows up on the NEXRAD radar.

Karl


"randall g" > wrote in message
...
>I just bought the Garmin 496 and I want to sign up for the aviation
> weather service. Unfortunately I live in Canada. When I called to
> subscribe they said they couldn't sign me up and I should contact XM
> Canada. So I called them, and they do not offer this service at all,
> although they rep thought they would someday.
>
> I guess what I need to do is to provide a US address in order to
> subscribe to XM USA. I suppose I could make one up, or hire a PO Box
> somewhere in the US.
>
> If you subscribe to XM Weather, do they actually send stuff to your
> address? Is it important?
>
> If you are a Canadian subscriber to XM Weather, how did you do it? Does
> your Canadian credit card work, or do you need to use a card drawn on a
> US bank?
>
>
> randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
> http://www.telemark.net/randallg
> Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
> http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
> Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

[[email protected]]

On Aug 28, 11:30 am, "karl gruber" > wrote:
> XMweather already shows most of Canada's weather as it is broadcast now. It
> has ALL the METARs and most of the country shows up on the NEXRAD radar.
>
> Karl
>
> "randall g" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> >I just bought the Garmin 496 and I want to sign up for the aviation
> > weather service. Unfortunately I live in Canada. When I called to
> > subscribe they said they couldn't sign me up and I should contactXM
> > Canada. So I called them, and they do not offer this service at all,
> > although they rep thought they would someday.
>
> > I guess what I need to do is to provide a US address in order to
> > subscribe toXMUSA. I suppose I could make one up, or hire a PO Box
> > somewhere in the US.
>
> > If you subscribe toXMWeather, do they actually send stuff to your
> > address? Is it important?
>
> > If you are a Canadian subscriber toXMWeather, how did you do it? Does
> > yourCanadian credit cardwork, or do you need to use a card drawn on a
> > US bank?
>
> > randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
> >http://www.telemark.net/randallg
> > Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
> >http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
> > Vancouver's famous Kat Kam:http://www.katkam.ca- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Canadian subsidiary of XM is selling the music/audio element but
still just making promises about XM weather "RSN" (real soon now.)
The US website for XM weather now offers a range of packages for
boating; the top one specifically includes "high resolution Canadian
NEXRAD" -- so XM has access ot the Canadian radar data; they just
haven't gotten organized to sell subscriptions to that data to
Canadians.

The US XM site has online subscription forms; these only accept US
billing addresses and will not take a credit card number issued by a
Canadian bank.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

wrote:
>
> The Canadian subsidiary of XM is selling the music/audio element but
> still just making promises about XM weather "RSN" (real soon now.)
> The US website for XM weather now offers a range of packages for
> boating; the top one specifically includes "high resolution Canadian
> NEXRAD" -- so XM has access ot the Canadian radar data; they just
> haven't gotten organized to sell subscriptions to that data to
> Canadians.
>
> The US XM site has online subscription forms; these only accept US
> billing addresses and will not take a credit card number issued by a
> Canadian bank.

Don't count on XM doing anything new until after the merger takes place.

[karl gruber[_1_]]

XM has been adding weather content every month..............




"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>>
>> The Canadian subsidiary of XM is selling the music/audio element but
>> still just making promises about XM weather "RSN" (real soon now.)
>> The US website for XM weather now offers a range of packages for
>> boating; the top one specifically includes "high resolution Canadian
>> NEXRAD" -- so XM has access ot the Canadian radar data; they just
>> haven't gotten organized to sell subscriptions to that data to
>> Canadians.
>>
>> The US XM site has online subscription forms; these only accept US
>> billing addresses and will not take a credit card number issued by a
>> Canadian bank.
>
> Don't count on XM doing anything new until after the merger takes place.
>

[Gig 601XL Builder]

And they have been adding new songs as they are released. What I meant by my
statement was no major changes in the way they do business.


karl gruber wrote:
> XM has been adding weather content every month..............
>
>
>
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Canadian subsidiary of XM is selling the music/audio element but
>>> still just making promises about XM weather "RSN" (real soon now.)
>>> The US website for XM weather now offers a range of packages for
>>> boating; the top one specifically includes "high resolution Canadian
>>> NEXRAD" -- so XM has access ot the Canadian radar data; they just
>>> haven't gotten organized to sell subscriptions to that data to
>>> Canadians.
>>>
>>> The US XM site has online subscription forms; these only accept US
>>> billing addresses and will not take a credit card number issued by a
>>> Canadian bank.
>>
>> Don't count on XM doing anything new until after the merger takes
>> place.

[karl gruber[_1_]]

Whatever you meant, it isn't true.

XM has added Canadian weather just in the past two months. They continue to
improve coverage without an increase in price.

KG




"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> And they have been adding new songs as they are released. What I meant by
> my statement was no major changes in the way they do business.
>
>
> karl gruber wrote:
>> XM has been adding weather content every month..............
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Canadian subsidiary of XM is selling the music/audio element but
>>>> still just making promises about XM weather "RSN" (real soon now.)
>>>> The US website for XM weather now offers a range of packages for
>>>> boating; the top one specifically includes "high resolution Canadian
>>>> NEXRAD" -- so XM has access ot the Canadian radar data; they just
>>>> haven't gotten organized to sell subscriptions to that data to
>>>> Canadians.
>>>>
>>>> The US XM site has online subscription forms; these only accept US
>>>> billing addresses and will not take a credit card number issued by a
>>>> Canadian bank.
>>>
>>> Don't count on XM doing anything new until after the merger takes
>>> place.
>
>

[Gig 601XL Builder]

So a Canadian can now use a Canadian address to subscribe to XM Weather?


karl gruber wrote:
> Whatever you meant, it isn't true.
>
> XM has added Canadian weather just in the past two months. They
> continue to improve coverage without an increase in price.
>
> KG
>
>
>
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>> And they have been adding new songs as they are released. What I
>> meant by my statement was no major changes in the way they do
>> business. karl gruber wrote:
>>> XM has been adding weather content every month..............
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Canadian subsidiary of XM is selling the music/audio element
>>>>> but still just making promises about XM weather "RSN" (real soon
>>>>> now.) The US website for XM weather now offers a range of
>>>>> packages for boating; the top one specifically includes "high
>>>>> resolution Canadian NEXRAD" -- so XM has access ot the Canadian
>>>>> radar data; they just haven't gotten organized to sell
>>>>> subscriptions to that data to Canadians.
>>>>>
>>>>> The US XM site has online subscription forms; these only accept US
>>>>> billing addresses and will not take a credit card number issued
>>>>> by a Canadian bank.
>>>>
>>>> Don't count on XM doing anything new until after the merger takes
>>>> place.

[karl gruber[_1_]]

How would I know? Do your own research!

KG
"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>
> So a Canadian can now use a Canadian address to subscribe to XM Weather?
>

[The Visitor[_2_]]

My understanding was you put it on your cc and use a US address. I think
it is some licensing thing they can't yet sell the product in Canada.

John

randall g wrote:

> I just bought the Garmin 496 and I want to sign up for the aviation
> weather service. Unfortunately I live in Canada. When I called to
> subscribe they said they couldn't sign me up and I should contact XM
> Canada. So I called them, and they do not offer this service at all,
> although they rep thought they would someday.
>
> I guess what I need to do is to provide a US address in order to
> subscribe to XM USA. I suppose I could make one up, or hire a PO Box
> somewhere in the US.
>
> If you subscribe to XM Weather, do they actually send stuff to your
> address? Is it important?
>
> If you are a Canadian subscriber to XM Weather, how did you do it? Does
> your Canadian credit card work, or do you need to use a card drawn on a
> US bank?
>
>
> randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
> http://www.telemark.net/randallg
> Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
> http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
> Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

[Gig 601XL Builder]

karl gruber wrote:
> How would I know? Do your own research!
>
> KG
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> So a Canadian can now use a Canadian address to subscribe to XM
>> Weather?

I did and you seemed to question the position I had taken so that sort of
leaves the ball in your court.

[karl gruber[_1_]]

>> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> So a Canadian can now use a Canadian address to subscribe to XM
>>> Weather?
>
> I did and you seemed to question the position I had taken so that sort of
> leaves the ball in your court.
Clearly you didn't research anything since your position is:
"Don't count on XM doing anything new until after the merger takes place."

Meanwhile they are implementing new weather features on a continuing basis.

I see it's difficult for you to argue against fact, but trying makes you
look foolish.

KG

[Andrew Sarangan]

On Sep 27, 11:06 pm, wrote:
> On Aug 28, 11:30 am, "karl gruber" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > XMweather already shows most of Canada's weather as it is broadcast now. It
> > has ALL the METARs and most of the country shows up on the NEXRAD radar.
>
> > Karl
>
> > "randall g" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > >I just bought the Garmin 496 and I want to sign up for the aviation
> > > weather service. Unfortunately I live in Canada. When I called to
> > > subscribe they said they couldn't sign me up and I should contactXM
> > > Canada. So I called them, and they do not offer this service at all,
> > > although they rep thought they would someday.
>
> > > I guess what I need to do is to provide a US address in order to
> > > subscribe toXMUSA. I suppose I could make one up, or hire a PO Box
> > > somewhere in the US.
>
> > > If you subscribe toXMWeather, do they actually send stuff to your
> > > address? Is it important?
>
> > > If you are a Canadian subscriber toXMWeather, how did you do it? Does
> > > yourCanadian credit cardwork, or do you need to use a card drawn on a
> > > US bank?
>
> > > randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
> > >http://www.telemark.net/randallg
> > > Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
> > >http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
> > > Vancouver's famous Kat Kam:http://www.katkam.ca-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The Canadian subsidiary of XM is selling the music/audio element but
> still just making promises about XM weather "RSN" (real soon now.)
> The US website for XM weather now offers a range of packages for
> boating; the top one specifically includes "high resolution Canadian
> NEXRAD" -- so XM has access ot the Canadian radar data; they just
> haven't gotten organized to sell subscriptions to that data to
> Canadians.
>
> The US XM site has online subscription forms; these only accept US
> billing addresses and will not take a credit card number issued by a
> Canadian bank.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How does the vendor know which bank a credit card is drawn from, and
why does he even care?

However, vendors use zip codes to match the credit card to the mailing
address, so using a friend's address in the U.S. is not going to work
unless that friend is also willing to lend you his credit card.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]]

Andrew Sarangan > wrote in
ups.com:

> On Sep 27, 11:06 pm, wrote:
>> On Aug 28, 11:30 am, "karl gruber" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > XMweather already shows most of Canada's weather as it is broadcast
>> > now. It has ALL the METARs and most of the country shows up on the
>> > NEXRAD radar.
>>
>> > Karl
>>
>> > "randall g" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > >I just bought the Garmin 496 and I want to sign up for the
>> > >aviation
>> > > weather service. Unfortunately I live in Canada. When I called to
>> > > subscribe they said they couldn't sign me up and I should
>> > > contactXM Canada. So I called them, and they do not offer this
>> > > service at all, although they rep thought they would someday.
>>
>> > > I guess what I need to do is to provide a US address in order to
>> > > subscribe toXMUSA. I suppose I could make one up, or hire a PO
>> > > Box somewhere in the US.
>>
>> > > If you subscribe toXMWeather, do they actually send stuff to your
>> > > address? Is it important?
>>
>> > > If you are a Canadian subscriber toXMWeather, how did you do it?
>> > > Does yourCanadian credit cardwork, or do you need to use a card
>> > > drawn on a US bank?
>>
>> > > randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
>> > >http://www.telemark.net/randallg
>> > > Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
>> > >http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
>> > > Vancouver's famous Kat Kam:http://www.katkam.ca-Hide quoted text
>> > > -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> The Canadian subsidiary of XM is selling the music/audio element but
>> still just making promises about XM weather "RSN" (real soon now.)
>> The US website for XM weather now offers a range of packages for
>> boating; the top one specifically includes "high resolution Canadian
>> NEXRAD" -- so XM has access ot the Canadian radar data; they just
>> haven't gotten organized to sell subscriptions to that data to
>> Canadians.
>>
>> The US XM site has online subscription forms; these only accept US
>> billing addresses and will not take a credit card number issued by a
>> Canadian bank.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> How does the vendor know which bank a credit card is drawn from, and
> why does he even care?


In my case it's by the first four numbers on my card.. I've only had a
problem with one vendor ever over it.




Bertie>

[randall g]

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:14:15 -0700, Andrew Sarangan
> wrote:

>How does the vendor know which bank a credit card is drawn from, and
>why does he even care?
>
>However, vendors use zip codes to match the credit card to the mailing
>address, so using a friend's address in the U.S. is not going to work
>unless that friend is also willing to lend you his credit card.

I note that my old thread has come to life again. Here is what I have
discovered, as I posted to aviation.ca:


XM Weather in Canada - How To Get It Easily

Just in case you didn't want to read the whole thread about my
trial-and-error experience, here is how any pilot in Canada can easily
subscribe to XM Satellite Aviation Weather.

1. Purchase your XM receiver - I bought a Garmin 496 from vippilot.com
online. You can buy it in Canada. The radio or antenna will have an XM
radio ID printed on it which you will need when you subscribe. It is
probable that the store you buy it from will not know how you can
subscribe to weather in Canada. Just smile smugly to yourself.

2. DO NOT CALL XM CANADA. They do not offer weather, although they claim
they will some day. These instructions are for if you want it now.

3. Call XM USA and subscribe to their aviation weather. They have two
plans - if you want Canadian weather information you need the more
expensive one, for US$50 per month. They will want a US address - give
them any address in the US or just make one up - you will never need to
receive anything there. If you are desperate try something like "One
Speigel Drive, Chicago, 60609".

4. When they ask for your credit card, say you don't want to use a
credit card, and ask for billing by invoice. If you give them a Canadian
credit card at this point, they will immediately detect that it is not
from a US bank and will be unable to use it, probably due to arcane FCC
and CRTC rules about exactly who is allowed to pay attention to
particular photons of radiation bathing on them from the sky. Instead
they will set you up to receive a monthly invoice by mail, which you can
pay the old fashioned way. DO NOT WORRY, you don't need to receive this
invoice.

5. Confirm that your radio is activated. I had to bring mine out on the
porch, and after being on for 20 minutes or so, it picked up my
subscription and started loading the weather data. Woohoo!

6. OK now you are thinking, I don't want to futz around with paying
monthly bills by cheque, this isn't the 20th century! Well here comes
the tricky bit. Go to www.xmradio.com and create an online login for
your subscription. You enter your radio id and email, and now you can
view your account and billing information. Among other things you can
view all your invoices, so if you did want to pay by cheque, you could
just do it at this point without receiving anything by mail (see?)

The online site also offers an option to pay your invoice online. Click
this and you go to some US bank site, where you can enter a credit card
number. AT THIS POINT THEY DO NOT CARE WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM!
Ain't capitalism grand? Or rather, ain't Accounts Receivable grand? I
used my plain vanilla Canadian Royal Bank Visa, which of course didn't
even match the bogus address I had provided. It still worked! They don't
care, they just want the money!

Not willing to believe this at first, I waited a couple of days to make
sure the charge went through, which was eventually confirmed.
Interestingly, this process has apparently set my account to bill my
credit card directly, rather than by invoice. I'll confirm this in the
coming months but for now, everything is copascetic.



randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
http://www.telemark.net/randallg
Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

[The Visitor[_2_]]

Thank you!

John





randall g wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:14:15 -0700, Andrew Sarangan
> > wrote:
>
>
>>How does the vendor know which bank a credit card is drawn from, and
>>why does he even care?
>>
>>However, vendors use zip codes to match the credit card to the mailing
>>address, so using a friend's address in the U.S. is not going to work
>>unless that friend is also willing to lend you his credit card.
>
>
> I note that my old thread has come to life again. Here is what I have
> discovered, as I posted to aviation.ca:
>
>
> XM Weather in Canada - How To Get It Easily
>
> Just in case you didn't want to read the whole thread about my
> trial-and-error experience, here is how any pilot in Canada can easily
> subscribe to XM Satellite Aviation Weather.
>
> 1. Purchase your XM receiver - I bought a Garmin 496 from vippilot.com
> online. You can buy it in Canada. The radio or antenna will have an XM
> radio ID printed on it which you will need when you subscribe. It is
> probable that the store you buy it from will not know how you can
> subscribe to weather in Canada. Just smile smugly to yourself.
>
> 2. DO NOT CALL XM CANADA. They do not offer weather, although they claim
> they will some day. These instructions are for if you want it now.
>
> 3. Call XM USA and subscribe to their aviation weather. They have two
> plans - if you want Canadian weather information you need the more
> expensive one, for US$50 per month. They will want a US address - give
> them any address in the US or just make one up - you will never need to
> receive anything there. If you are desperate try something like "One
> Speigel Drive, Chicago, 60609".
>
> 4. When they ask for your credit card, say you don't want to use a
> credit card, and ask for billing by invoice. If you give them a Canadian
> credit card at this point, they will immediately detect that it is not
> from a US bank and will be unable to use it, probably due to arcane FCC
> and CRTC rules about exactly who is allowed to pay attention to
> particular photons of radiation bathing on them from the sky. Instead
> they will set you up to receive a monthly invoice by mail, which you can
> pay the old fashioned way. DO NOT WORRY, you don't need to receive this
> invoice.
>
> 5. Confirm that your radio is activated. I had to bring mine out on the
> porch, and after being on for 20 minutes or so, it picked up my
> subscription and started loading the weather data. Woohoo!
>
> 6. OK now you are thinking, I don't want to futz around with paying
> monthly bills by cheque, this isn't the 20th century! Well here comes
> the tricky bit. Go to www.xmradio.com and create an online login for
> your subscription. You enter your radio id and email, and now you can
> view your account and billing information. Among other things you can
> view all your invoices, so if you did want to pay by cheque, you could
> just do it at this point without receiving anything by mail (see?)
>
> The online site also offers an option to pay your invoice online. Click
> this and you go to some US bank site, where you can enter a credit card
> number. AT THIS POINT THEY DO NOT CARE WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM!
> Ain't capitalism grand? Or rather, ain't Accounts Receivable grand? I
> used my plain vanilla Canadian Royal Bank Visa, which of course didn't
> even match the bogus address I had provided. It still worked! They don't
> care, they just want the money!
>
> Not willing to believe this at first, I waited a couple of days to make
> sure the charge went through, which was eventually confirmed.
> Interestingly, this process has apparently set my account to bill my
> credit card directly, rather than by invoice. I'll confirm this in the
> coming months but for now, everything is copascetic.
>
>
>
> randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
> http://www.telemark.net/randallg
> Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
> http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
> Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

[The Visitor[_2_]]

I didn't know you were in Canada. From your email addy, I thought the US?
Where at?
I am in Southern Ontario.

John

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

> karl gruber wrote:
>
>>How would I know? Do your own research!
>>
>>KG
>>"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>>
>>>So a Canadian can now use a Canadian address to subscribe to XM
>>>Weather?
>
>
> I did and you seemed to question the position I had taken so that sort of
> leaves the ball in your court.
>
>

[Gig 601XL Builder]

The Visitor wrote:
> I didn't know you were in Canada. From your email addy, I thought the
> US? Where at?
> I am in Southern Ontario.
>
> John
>

I'm not but I can see how you thought that from the mangled threading. Mr.
Karl "Helpful" Gruber was top posting and so I top posted my replies for a
while then I slipped and did it correctly.