Why doesn't Bose have MP3/cellphone hookup in their headsets?

[[email protected]]

Seems very strange to me that a company most noted for their consumer
audio products would make a headset that doesn't have a plug to allow
your to hook in your iPod/MP3 player or cellphone.

I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
what a disappointment.

[BillJ]

wrote:
> Seems very strange to me that a company most noted for their consumer
> audio products would make a headset that doesn't have a plug to allow
> your to hook in your iPod/MP3 player or cellphone.
>
> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
> what a disappointment.
>
Because it is for talking and listening to controllers?

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"BillJ" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>> Seems very strange to me that a company most noted for their consumer
>> audio products would make a headset that doesn't have a plug to allow
>> your to hook in your iPod/MP3 player or cellphone.
>>
>> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
>> what a disappointment.
>>
> Because it is for talking and listening to controllers?

And because most pilots listen to MP3 players through the audio panel, which
cuts the music feed when ATC comes on the line.

[cjcampbell]

On Aug 28, 7:47 pm, "Matt Barrow" >
wrote:
> "BillJ" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > wrote:
> >> Seems very strange to me that a company most noted for their consumer
> >> audio products would make a headset that doesn't have a plug to allow
> >> your to hook in your iPod/MP3 player or cellphone.
>
> >> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
> >> what a disappointment.
>
> > Because it is for talking and listening to controllers?
>
> And because most pilots listen to MP3 players through the audio panel, which
> cuts the music feed when ATC comes on the line.

So what? The LightSpeed headsets also cut the music when ATC comes on
the line.

[cjcampbell]

On Aug 28, 1:51 pm, wrote:
> Seems very strange to me that a company most noted for their consumer
> audio products would make a headset that doesn't have a plug to allow
> your to hook in your iPod/MP3 player or cellphone.
>
> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
> what a disappointment.

It is odd indeed. One reason I went with the LightSpeed.
Unfortunately, the cable for the LightSpeed will not fit in my iPhone,
so I will have to find some sort of adapter.

[Bob Fry]

>>>>> "cj" == cjcampbell > writes:

cj> On Aug 28, 1:51 pm, wrote:
>> Seems very strange to me that a company most noted for their
>> consumer audio products would make a headset that doesn't have
>> a plug to allow your to hook in your iPod/MP3 player or
>> cellphone.
>>
>> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be
>> there... what a disappointment.

cj> It is odd indeed. One reason I went with the LightSpeed.
cj> Unfortunately, the cable for the LightSpeed will not fit in my
cj> iPhone, so I will have to find some sort of adapter.

http://www.zuluseries.com/
--
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giants standing on the shoulders of other giants. It has also been
said that the software industry is an example of midgets standing on
the toes of other midgets.
Alan Cooper About Face

[Thomas Borchert]

> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
> what a disappointment.
>

Rest assured many have been through it before you. Adding other
patterns of behaviour of that company, a hint of arrogance might be
detected.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Thomas Borchert]

Matt,

> And because most pilots listen to MP3 players through the audio panel, which
> cuts the music feed when ATC comes on the line.
>

I seriously doubt that most pilots have an audio jack in the panel. Also, all
headsets with MP3 input mute the music when ATC comes on the line.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Ron Natalie]

wrote:
> Seems very strange to me that a company most noted for their consumer
> audio products would make a headset that doesn't have a plug to allow
> your to hook in your iPod/MP3 player or cellphone.
>
> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
> what a disappointment.
>
Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.

[Thomas Borchert]

Ron,

> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.
>

Maybe they're too arrogant to give choice to the consumer.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Thomas Borchert]

BillJ,

> Because it is for talking and listening to controllers?
>

Headsets with music input can be used for that without problems.
Whatever happened to the idea that the customer gets to decide what he
wants to do?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Gig 601XL Builder]

cjcampbell wrote:
> It is odd indeed. One reason I went with the LightSpeed.
> Unfortunately, the cable for the LightSpeed will not fit in my iPhone,
> so I will have to find some sort of adapter.

So you got an iPhone CJ. I have to ask. Did your first bill come in a box?

[Peter R.]

On 8/29/2007 7:55:37 AM, Ron Natalie wrote:

> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.

Listening to music actually improves my concentration while flying.

--
Peter

[Peter R.]

On 8/29/2007 7:55:37 AM, Ron Natalie wrote:

> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.

Oh, and as a relatively new IFR pilot you should see some utility in the
ability to plug your phone into the headset for those days you need to call
FSS to pick up your IFR clearance out of that uncontrolled airport.

--
Peter

[S Green]

"Thomas Borchert" > wrote in message
...
> Ron,
>
>> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.
>>
>
> Maybe they're too arrogant to give choice to the consumer.
>
> --
> Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
>

They do give customers a choice - their product or someone else's

[S Green]

"Thomas Borchert" > wrote in message
...
> BillJ,
>
>> Because it is for talking and listening to controllers?
>>
>
> Headsets with music input can be used for that without problems.
> Whatever happened to the idea that the customer gets to decide what he
> wants to do?
>
either buy the headset or not. If it does not suit your needs then choose
something else - whets the problem? If you bought the wrong thing more fool
you. It is not difficult to find out what the headset does or does not. The
Bose site has all the info as well as the operating manual for the headset.

a timewasting non issue by someone too stupid to check out what they were
buying.

first rule in life - don't assume.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"S Green" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Thomas Borchert" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ron,
>>
>>> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe they're too arrogant to give choice to the consumer.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
>>
>
> They do give customers a choice - their product or someone else's
Also, Bose aims their products at the "pros" who are usually engaged in CRM
during flight, not entertainment.

Also, Bose being more expensive, it's more typically used by people what
have MP3 and cell phone capable audio panels. If they added capability to
attach toys, first they would have redundancy that was wasted on their
target market. Secondly, there would be that many more people whining that
Bose was even MORE expensive.

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

wrote:
>
> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
> what a disappointment.

I use one of these when I want to use the phone, which isn't often. My
wife usually uses it to hear her Ipod, as she's a nervous flier:

<http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?Product_ID=7145&DID=19>

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Matt Barrow wrote:
> Secondly, there would be that many more people whining that
> Bose was even MORE expensive.

With more possible failure points.

[[email protected]]

On Aug 29, 4:55 am, Ron Natalie > wrote:

> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.

Yeah, because straight and level flight is so demanding.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Aug 29, 4:55 am, Ron Natalie > wrote:
>
>> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.
>
> Yeah, because straight and level flight is so demanding.

Spoken like a real amateur.

[cjcampbell]

On Aug 29, 6:42 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
wrote:
> cjcampbell wrote:
> > It is odd indeed. One reason I went with the LightSpeed.
> > Unfortunately, the cable for the LightSpeed will not fit in my iPhone,
> > so I will have to find some sort of adapter.
>
> So you got an iPhone CJ. I have to ask. Did your first bill come in a box?

Hahaha. No. It came in several envelopes. Thankfully AT&T has
announced that they are condensing the bills in the future.

[cjcampbell]

On Aug 28, 9:33 pm, Bob Fry > wrote:
> >>>>> "cj" == cjcampbell > writes:
>
> cj> On Aug 28, 1:51 pm, wrote:
> >> Seems very strange to me that a company most noted for their
> >> consumer audio products would make a headset that doesn't have
> >> a plug to allow your to hook in your iPod/MP3 player or
> >> cellphone.
> >>
> >> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be
> >> there... what a disappointment.
>
> cj> It is odd indeed. One reason I went with the LightSpeed.
> cj> Unfortunately, the cable for the LightSpeed will not fit in my
> cj> iPhone, so I will have to find some sort of adapter.
>
> http://www.zuluseries.com/

Aw. It has Bluetooth. Great, except that the stupid iPhone will not
broadcast stereo in Bluetooth. So all my iPod tunes would be mono.
Besides, $850?!?

[Thomas Borchert]

Matt,

> Also, Bose aims their products at the "pros" who are usually engaged in CRM
> during flight, not entertainment.
>

There are an awful lot of Bose ads in the "hobby flyer" magazines that seem to
counter your statement. Also, I have not yet seen a Bose in any airline
cockpit. Doesn't mean much, but it's a data point.

You seem to be opposed to the idea of listening to music in-flight. That's ok,
but it's no reason to belittle pilots that like to listen to music.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Thomas Borchert]

Cjcampbell,

> Great, except that the stupid iPhone will not
> broadcast stereo in Bluetooth. So all my iPod tunes would be mono.
> Besides, $850?!?
>

If you plunked down the amount of money required for the feature set of
an iPhone, 850 for the Zulu should be a non-issue to you.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[[email protected]]

On Aug 29, 4:09 pm, "Matt Barrow" >
wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > On Aug 29, 4:55 am, Ron Natalie > wrote:
>
> >> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.
>
> > Yeah, because straight and level flight is so demanding.
>
> Spoken like a real amateur.

You got me...that's precisely what I am.

am·a·teur ( m' -tûr', -t r, -ch r', -ch r, -ty r')
n.
A person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity
as a pastime rather than as a profession.


Does Bose also expect my kids and my wife to use the headphones to fly
and not play games?

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 29, 4:09 pm, "Matt Barrow" >
wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > On Aug 29, 4:55 am, Ron Natalie > wrote:
>
> >> Maybe they expect you to use them to fly with and not play games.
>
> > Yeah, because straight and level flight is so demanding.
>
> Spoken like a real amateur.

>You got me...that's precisely what I am.

>am·a·teur ( m' -tûr', -t r, -ch r', -ch r, -ty r')
> n.
> A person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity
> as a pastime rather than as a profession.

Note the aviation accident statistics in which professionals (or those who
follow their procedures) tend to have far fewer crashes than their amateur
brethern.


> Does Bose also expect my kids and my wife to use the headphones to fly
> and not play games?

Bose aims at the professional pilot, not the rank amatuer. For those others,
there's a slew of cheap alternatives.

BTW, do you follow such a cavalier attitude when your wife and kids are
aboard?

[Thomas Borchert]

Matt,

You can link listening to music to accident rates? Wow!

> Bose aims at the professional pilot, not the rank amatuer.

You've said it twice now. Care to back it up? IMHO, it's utterly wrong.

What cavalier attitude the OP has displayed is completely beyond me.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Thomas Borchert wrote:
> Also, I have not yet seen a Bose in any airline
> cockpit. Doesn't mean much, but it's a data point.

Look in the charter cockpits.

[[email protected]]

> > Spoken like a real amateur.
> >You got me...that's precisely what I am.
> >am·a·teur ( m' -tûr', -t r, -ch r', -ch r, -ty r')
> > n.
> > A person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity
> > as a pastime rather than as a profession.
>
> Note the aviation accident statistics in which professionals (or those who
> follow their procedures) tend to have far fewer crashes than their amateur
> brethern.

What a colossal dork you are. Are you this pathetic in real life, or
just when you get on the internet? What *possibly* made you think I
take flying any less seriously than someone who gets paid?

> > Does Bose also expect my kids and my wife to use the headphones to fly
> > and not play games?
>
> Bose aims at the professional pilot, not the rank amatuer. For those others,
> there's a slew of cheap alternatives.

Really? Bose doesn't want to sell me any of their headphones? I'll
have to send them back with an apology.

Hey, pilots out there... if you don't get paid to fly, don't by Bose
headphones. Matt won't stand for it.

Also, the words are spelled "amateur" and "brethren." Here's hoping
you fly better than you spell.

> BTW, do you follow such a cavalier attitude when your wife and kids are
> aboard?

Ugh. What do you think?
Really, give me your honest answer, Mr. Professional.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
et...
> Thomas Borchert wrote:
>> Also, I have not yet seen a Bose in any airline cockpit. Doesn't mean
>> much, but it's a data point.
>
> Look in the charter cockpits.

You won't find Bose in many cockpits in which the engines/props are a
significant distance behind the pilot. Those (jet jockeys and the like)
don't need a lot of noise reduction like piston poppers and turboprops do.

Then, too, Thomas is all mouth and virtually ZERO brains, but that's what
one would expect from a Nazi.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Viperdoc" > wrote in message
...
> We use Bose in the KC-135 all the time. It is an option versus the non ANR
> DC's. Considering the lighter weight and superior comfort and sound, the
> Bose win hands down.

Yeah, but Thomas would say that the KC-135 is not an airliner, or that
KC-135 drivers are military pilots, not professionals.

>
>
> "B A R R Y" > wrote in message
> et...
>> Thomas Borchert wrote:
>>> Also, I have not yet seen a Bose in any airline cockpit. Doesn't mean
>>> much, but it's a data point.
>>
>> Look in the charter cockpits.
>
>

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> > Spoken like a real amateur.
> >You got me...that's precisely what I am.
> >am·a·teur ( m' -tûr', -t r, -ch r', -ch r, -ty r')
> > n.
> > A person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity
> > as a pastime rather than as a profession.
>
> Note the aviation accident statistics in which professionals (or those who
> follow their procedures) tend to have far fewer crashes than their amateur
> brethern.

>What a colossal dork you are. Are you this pathetic in real life, or
>just when you get on the internet?


> What *possibly* made you think I
take flying any less seriously than someone who gets paid?

Your cavilier, snotball attitude.

> Ugh. What do you think?

I think you need a spanking.

>Really, give me your honest answer, Mr. Professional.

You don't have a clue, do you?

Okay, once again for the adolesant: "Note the aviation accident statistics
in which professionals (or those who
follow their procedures)"

Read the parenthetic part again, then go **** yourself, punk.

[Thomas Borchert]

Matt,

> Then, too, Thomas is all mouth and virtually ZERO brains, but that's what
> one would expect from a Nazi.
>

Thanks for demonstrating so effectively your mind-boggling level of idiocy.
To think you might actually hold a medical...

Surpassing MX isn't easy, so I guess congratulations are in order.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Dan[_1_]]

Is this product stereo?

On Aug 29, 11:11 am, B A R R Y > wrote:
> wrote:
>
> > I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
> > what a disappointment.
>
> I use one of these when I want to use the phone, which isn't often. My
> wife usually uses it to hear her Ipod, as she's a nervous flier:
>
> <http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?Product_ID=7145&DID=19>

[Jay Honeck]

> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
> what a disappointment.

We use our lightspeed music/cell input all the time. It is truly
wonderful to be able to make a call as soon as you land, simply by
dialing the phone and listening/talking through your headset. The
clarity is remarkable, and the convenience is hard to beat.

I've been watching this thread with amazement since it began. I can't
believe there are people out there who are defending Bose for selling
a headset -- for $1000! -- without including this most basic
feature. IMHO it's like selling a GPS with a black-and-white screen
nowadays. Sure, it works, but why would anyone want to do without
color?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> I bought a pair of the Bose X and just assumed that would be there...
>> what a disappointment.
>
> We use our lightspeed music/cell input all the time. It is truly
> wonderful to be able to make a call as soon as you land, simply by
> dialing the phone and listening/talking through your headset. The
> clarity is remarkable, and the convenience is hard to beat.
>
> I've been watching this thread with amazement since it began. I can't
> believe there are people out there who are defending Bose for selling
> a headset -- for $1000! -- without including this most basic
> feature.

Basic feature?

Hey, Jay! Do you provide "room service" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) at your
hotel? You don't? Why, with all those Iowa farm girls looking for
work/dates, that's unconscionable.


> IMHO it's like selling a GPS with a black-and-white screen
> nowadays. Sure, it works, but why would anyone want to do without
> color?

Becuase the people that have Bose headsets (and want to listen to music or
gab on the cell phone) probably have SOTA audio panels, not those retro AP
boxes.

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:44:56 -0700, Dan > wrote:

>Is this product stereo?

It appears to be by the connectors, but I've never used it with music,
only for cell phone clearance pickups. I don't fly with music. My
wife, who has actually listened to music with it, likes it, but can't
remember if it's stereo (she doesn't really know what that stereo
means vs. "not" stereo).

I think Sporty's has a generous return policy. <G>

[Morgans[_2_]]

"B A R R Y" > wrote

> I use one of these when I want to use the phone, which isn't often. My
> wife usually uses it to hear her Ipod, as she's a nervous flier:
>
> <http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?Product_ID=7145&DID=19>

Shame, that you spend 1 AMU on a top of the line headset, then have to
spend .1 AMU to use a cell phone (or music) with it.

No, not a shame, ridiculous.

Bose should be ashamed of themselves.
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> Basic feature?
>
> Hey, Jay! Do you provide "room service" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) at your
> hotel?

Why, yes we do. Steak, chops, seafood, eggs benedict -- you name it.

Why?

> Becuase the people that have Bose headsets (and want to listen to music or
> gab on the cell phone) probably have SOTA audio panels, not those retro AP
> boxes.

I have both XM radio and a CD player in my panel. I still use the
headphone jack in my Lightspeed headsets for my cell phone, all the
time. It's an incredibly basic feature, and for anyone to assert
otherwise is simply trying to justify spending $1000 on a $200
headset.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Basic feature?
>>
>> Hey, Jay! Do you provide "room service" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) at
>> your
>> hotel?
>
> Why, yes we do. Steak, chops, seafood, eggs benedict -- you name it.
>
> Why?
>
>> Becuase the people that have Bose headsets (and want to listen to music
>> or
>> gab on the cell phone) probably have SOTA audio panels, not those retro
>> AP
>> boxes.
>
> I have both XM radio and a CD player in my panel. I still use the
> headphone jack in my Lightspeed headsets for my cell phone, all the
> time. It's an incredibly basic feature, and for anyone to assert
> otherwise is simply trying to justify spending $1000 on a $200
> headset.

I guess their stupid marketing people have missed something on their way to
selling all those headsets to stupid wealthy people.

Yes, quite lame of them to target the upper crust rather than the spam can
drivers. Yet, they laugh all the way to the bank.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Basic feature?
>>
>> Hey, Jay! Do you provide "room service" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) at
>> your
>> hotel?
>
> Why, yes we do. Steak, chops, seafood, eggs benedict -- you name it.
>
> Why?

So why not the "extended" room service?

[S Green]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "B A R R Y" > wrote
>
>> I use one of these when I want to use the phone, which isn't often. My
>> wife usually uses it to hear her Ipod, as she's a nervous flier:
>>
>> <http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?Product_ID=7145&DID=19>
>
> Shame, that you spend 1 AMU on a top of the line headset, then have to
> spend .1 AMU to use a cell phone (or music) with it.
>
> No, not a shame, ridiculous.
>
> Bose should be ashamed of themselves.

Its quite simple. if you want a Bose buy a Bose. If you want something to
plug everything else into buy something else.

I don't see what the problem is. Bose is clear what they offer.

We have one moron buying a headset without checking out whether it would do
what he wanted and we end up with the second most stupid thread for weeks.

The first most stupid thread is on bicycles.

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:01:03 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>Shame, that you spend 1 AMU on a top of the line headset, then have to
>spend .1 AMU to use a cell phone (or music) with it.

Actually, I paid ~ $900 overall for mine, which also included a 30
day, guilt and game-free test period. During my 30 day test, I got to
use the set lots, in all kinds of conditions. Also during the same
test, I loaned them out, which resulted in a second sale for Bose.

I sold the "freebie come-on" I got with mine for $62 on eBay, and I
calculated the 0% financing opportunity cost and free shipping to be ~
$35-40.

FWIW, the $100 interface gets much more use plugged into my old $400+
headset, for my wife to listen to calming music, than it the two or
three phone calls a year I make with it. Even if my Bose X had an
aux. interface, I'd still need the extra $100 unit for her.

>No, not a shame, ridiculous.

I think the reason for a lack of an input is that the Bose X is a
slightly older design, released before the current models with the aux
input. If the input is as big a deal as some make it out to be, sales
would drop off enough for Bose to add the feature. Since they haven't
bothered, I can only imagine that the missing feature hasn't been a
big deal.

My headset replaced a top of the line set from another well-known
headset maker. Many flying hours later, I'd buy the Bose again. I
don't really care who else uses what I use, and hope they buy what
best suits them and fly safe and happy!

[Jay Honeck]

> Yes, quite lame of them to target the upper crust rather than the spam can
> drivers. Yet, they laugh all the way to the bank.

Right. Bose sells more headsets on the consumer market in a week than
they sell Xs to pilots in a year.

THAT is the real reason they cost a grand, and they haven't updated
the design to include modern features. They've run the numbers and
realized that it just isn't worth it.

(BTW: I feel the same when I pay almost $500 for a Lightspeed ANR
headset that I *know* is worth $100. But, hey, at least I've got a
cell phone jack...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[S Green]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> Yes, quite lame of them to target the upper crust rather than the spam
>> can
>> drivers. Yet, they laugh all the way to the bank.
>
> Right. Bose sells more headsets on the consumer market in a week than
> they sell Xs to pilots in a year.
>
> THAT is the real reason they cost a grand, and they haven't updated
> the design to include modern features. They've run the numbers and
> realized that it just isn't worth it.
>
> (BTW: I feel the same when I pay almost $500 for a Lightspeed ANR
> headset that I *know* is worth $100. But, hey, at least I've got a
> cell phone jack...)

Well good for you.

[Jay Honeck]

> So why not the "extended" room service?

Hey, we're a family hotel!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Mark Manes]

I have a Bose X, Lightspeed Thirty 3G, a Clarity Aloft (in ear) and a Telex
Stratus in the 310. All but the Bose have aux input....but the Bose is
"MINE"! I'd buy a second Bose but the wife likes the Lightspeed. For me
the Bose is the best (comfort & what's filtered out), with the Clarity Aloft
my second choice (and it's not even ANR). I borrowed a Bose from a friend
and new it didnt have an aux input.....but bought one anyway. To be honest
I will try a Zulu later and hope I like it better than the Bose.

Mark Manes
N28409
WC5I

>
> I have both XM radio and a CD player in my panel. I still use the
> headphone jack in my Lightspeed headsets for my cell phone, all the
> time. It's an incredibly basic feature, and for anyone to assert
> otherwise is simply trying to justify spending $1000 on a $200
> headset.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Jay Honeck]

> I will try a Zulu later and hope I like it better than the Bose.

Yep, that's penciled into my plans for SNF '08 or OSH '08. The Zulu
appears to have addressed the issues that people have with the
Lightspeed 3G line (basically a cosmetic thing about the ear-cups
being too big) by essentially copying the sleeker Bose design, while
retaining all the great things Lightspeed always includes.

I can't remember, does the Bose X have a built-in bass & treble
control?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Thomas Borchert]

Jay,

> I can't remember, does the Bose X have a built-in bass & treble
> control?
>

No. What would it be for, without a music input.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[LWG]

Of course, you can achieve the same result with an earbud microphone/speaker
for your cellphone, which can be slipped under the headset cup. Most have
the speaker on cord, which of course won't work. The sidetone through the
headset is the voice transmitted through the cell phone. WalMart sells such
a cellphone headset for $7.99 or so.

I was going to send my Lightspeed back for an upgrade which included the
cellphone jack. Since the advent of cellphones with a few milliwatts of
power, they don't work in the air anymore. You can receive okay, but the
punch is not there to transmit. For the few calls I make on the ground, for
a few bucks I use the corded cellphone microphone, and just put it under the
earcup on the ground.

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> Yes, quite lame of them to target the upper crust rather than the spam
>> can
>> drivers. Yet, they laugh all the way to the bank.
>
> Right. Bose sells more headsets on the consumer market in a week than
> they sell Xs to pilots in a year.
>
> THAT is the real reason they cost a grand, and they haven't updated
> the design to include modern features. They've run the numbers and
> realized that it just isn't worth it.
>
> (BTW: I feel the same when I pay almost $500 for a Lightspeed ANR
> headset that I *know* is worth $100. But, hey, at least I've got a
> cell phone jack...)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Newps]

Test out the earbud thing with your headset. I tried it this summer.
The ear buds I have are just a little too big, they hit the ear cup of
the headset thus making them terribly uncomfortable. You need the
smallest ear buds you can find.






LWG wrote:
> Of course, you can achieve the same result with an earbud microphone/speaker
> for your cellphone, which can be slipped under the headset cup. Most have
> the speaker on cord, which of course won't work. The sidetone through the
> headset is the voice transmitted through the cell phone. WalMart sells such
> a cellphone headset for $7.99 or so.
>
> I was going to send my Lightspeed back for an upgrade which included the
> cellphone jack. Since the advent of cellphones with a few milliwatts of
> power, they don't work in the air anymore. You can receive okay, but the
> punch is not there to transmit. For the few calls I make on the ground, for
> a few bucks I use the corded cellphone microphone, and just put it under the
> earcup on the ground.
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>
>>>Yes, quite lame of them to target the upper crust rather than the spam
>>>can
>>>drivers. Yet, they laugh all the way to the bank.
>>
>>Right. Bose sells more headsets on the consumer market in a week than
>>they sell Xs to pilots in a year.
>>
>>THAT is the real reason they cost a grand, and they haven't updated
>>the design to include modern features. They've run the numbers and
>>realized that it just isn't worth it.
>>
>>(BTW: I feel the same when I pay almost $500 for a Lightspeed ANR
>>headset that I *know* is worth $100. But, hey, at least I've got a
>>cell phone jack...)
>>--
>>Jay Honeck
>>Iowa City, IA
>>Pathfinder N56993
>>www.AlexisParkInn.com
>>"Your Aviation Destination"
>>
>
>
>