Re: Flight 93? Or an A-10 Warthog?

[Hobo]

The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
question: Where is this 757 supposed to be?
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg

The crater from above. 757 crash, or munitions?
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg



Watch Loose Change:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

[shrubkiller]

On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
> question: Where is this 757 supposed to be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>
> The crater from above. 757 crash, or munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>
> Watch Loose Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501




......................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
plane dove into the ground?

[SiG226]

"shrubkiller" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to
>> be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>>
>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or
>> munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>>
>> Watch Loose
>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>
>
>
>
> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
> plane dove into the ground?


Simple............. If the aircraft was out of control it was probably
overstressed and starting to disintegrate whilst still in the air....
overstress the airframe and things fall/get ripped off!

SiG
>
>

[Al G[_1_]]

"shrubkiller" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to
>> be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>>
>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or
>> munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>>
>> Watch Loose
>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>
>
>
>
> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
> plane dove into the ground?
>

Debris trail wasn't 6 miles long. A piece of paper was found in a lake
1.5 miles away, and I guess if you did a map quest that showed 6.4 mile
DRIVE to that lake, and you are an idiot, you might think a debris trail was
6 miles.

Al G

[Rob Arndt[_2_]]

Maybe she saw a white version of this:
http://www.luft46.com/junkers/jugap1.gif

Rob :)~

[R. Scott]

"shrubkiller" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to
>> be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>>
>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or
>> munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>>
>> Watch Loose
>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>
>
>
>
> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
> plane dove into the ground?


Shhh no don't go confusing them with facts. It hurts their little tin
covered heads

[Al Dykes]

In article . com>,
Hobo > wrote:
>The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>question: Where is this 757 supposed to be?
>http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>
>The crater from above. 757 crash, or munitions?
>http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>
>
>Watch Loose Change:
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501



How big a hole is "right" according to you? Are you an expert in
holeology?

The aircraft impacted at approximately 563 mph (906 km/h), at a
40 degree angle.[26] The impact left a crater about 115 feet (35
m) wide and 10 to 12 feet (about 3.5 m) deep. There were no
survivors among the 44 passengers, crew and terrorists (all were
killed by the impact or had been previously killed during
flight).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93


Here's a link to all the literature that shows how all the bodies were
identified by DNA and small property fond with the bodies.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a091301victimside...



Here's the in the news on 9/24/2001, CNN reports 95% or the aircraft
was recovered form that hole including both black boxes.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/24/inv.pennsylvania.site/index.html

CNN.com

FBI finished with Pennsylvania crash site probe

SHANKSVILLE, Pennsylvania (CNN) --The FBI announced Monday that its
investigation of the site where a hijacked jet slammed into a field
here is complete and that 95 percent of the plane was recovered.

The federal investigation into the September 11 terrorist attacks
continues.

Evidence-gathering was halted Saturday afternoon and the pieces of
United Airlines Flight 93 that had been recovered were turned over
Sunday to the airline, with the exception of the flight data recorder
and the voice recorder, which are being held and analyzed by the FBI,
according to FBI agent Bill Crowley.

Crowley said the biggest piece of the plane that was recovered was a
6-by-7-foot piece of the fuselage skin, including about four
windows. The heaviest piece, Crowley said, was part of an engine fan,
weighing about 1,000 pounds.

Flight 93 was one of four jets hijacked Sept. 11. Authorities believe
the flight, which originated in Newark, New Jersey, and had been
destined for San Francisco, was headed for the nation's capital, where
the hijackers may have intended to slam it into the White House or the
Capitol.

Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller have
praised the passengers of that flight, saying it appears their actions
in trying to regain control of the aircraft averted a greater tragedy.

People who spoke by phone with passengers after the plane was hijacked
say that after the passengers found out about the earlier World Trade
Center attack, they decided to try to overpower the hijackers.

And officials familiar with the flight's cockpit voice recorder say it
shows there was a "definite struggle," which they described as
desperate and wild, between hijackers and some of the passengers.

All 44 people on board the flight were killed when it slammed into the
ground.

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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Al Dykes]

In article m>,
shrubkiller > wrote:
>On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>>
>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>>
>> Watch Loose Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>
>
>
>
>.....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
>plane dove into the ground?
>

More Twoofee lies.

"6 miles" is the distance by mapquest. By wind, it's two miles..

There was some paper found two miles from the crash.

95% of Flight 93 has been recovered.


--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Dan[_2_]]

R. Scott wrote:
> "shrubkiller" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
>> On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
>>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to
>>> be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>>>
>>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or
>>> munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>>>
>>> Watch Loose
>>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>>
>>
>>
>> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
>> plane dove into the ground?
>
>
> Shhh no don't go confusing them with facts. It hurts their little tin
> covered heads
>
>
Oswald was responsible for JFK, 9/11 and many other conspiracies. He
is in charge of the black helicopters. The film of Oswald being shot is
a fake. The world is coming to an end because it is hollow and being
rapidly filled with waste from the space alien visitors. They access it
through a secret Nazi underground u-boat base built during WW2. Hilary
Clinton is their leader. Little brother is watching you.

I think that just about covers everything.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Al G[_1_]]

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> R. Scott wrote:
>> "shrubkiller" > wrote in message
>> ps.com...
>>> On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
>>>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>>>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to
>>>> be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>>>>
>>>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or
>>>> munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Watch Loose
>>>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
>>> plane dove into the ground?
>>
>>
>> Shhh no don't go confusing them with facts. It hurts their little tin
>> covered heads
> Oswald was responsible for JFK, 9/11 and many other conspiracies. He is
> in charge of the black helicopters. The film of Oswald being shot is a
> fake. The world is coming to an end because it is hollow and being rapidly
> filled with waste from the space alien visitors. They access it through a
> secret Nazi underground u-boat base built during WW2. Hilary Clinton is
> their leader. Little brother is watching you.
>
> I think that just about covers everything.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Whew, thanks Dan, I feel better already.
The tinfoil hats, shouldn't they tuck under the chin for full
coverage?

Al G

[Dan[_2_]]

Al G wrote:
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
>> R. Scott wrote:
>>> "shrubkiller" > wrote in message
>>> ps.com...
>>>> On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
>>>>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>>>>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to
>>>>> be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or
>>>>> munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Watch Loose
>>>>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
>>>> plane dove into the ground?
>>>
>>> Shhh no don't go confusing them with facts. It hurts their little tin
>>> covered heads
>> Oswald was responsible for JFK, 9/11 and many other conspiracies. He is
>> in charge of the black helicopters. The film of Oswald being shot is a
>> fake. The world is coming to an end because it is hollow and being rapidly
>> filled with waste from the space alien visitors. They access it through a
>> secret Nazi underground u-boat base built during WW2. Hilary Clinton is
>> their leader. Little brother is watching you.
>>
>> I think that just about covers everything.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> Whew, thanks Dan, I feel better already.
> The tinfoil hats, shouldn't they tuck under the chin for full
> coverage?
>
> Al G
>
>
MIT has done a study finding aluminum foil is just as effective. As
for tucking under the chin that's personal choice. I recommend it to
keep the hat on when the winds of change blow.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Glenn Dowdy[_2_]]

"Dan" > wrote in message
...

>>
> MIT has done a study finding aluminum foil is just as effective. As for
> tucking under the chin that's personal choice. I recommend it to keep the
> hat on when the winds of change blow.
>
Didn't mythbusters find that tinfoil hats concentrated, rather than
reflected, radio waves?

Glenn D.

[[email protected]]

On Aug 30, 2:03 pm, (Al Dykes) wrote:
> In article . com>,
>
> Hobo > wrote:
> >The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
> >question: Where is this 757 supposed to be?
> >http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>
> >The crater from above. 757 crash, or munitions?
> >http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>
> >Watch Loose Change:
> >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>
> How big a hole is "right" according to you? Are you an expert in
> holeology?
>
> The aircraft impacted at approximately 563 mph (906 km/h), at a
> 40 degree angle.[26] The impact left a crater about 115 feet (35
> m) wide and 10 to 12 feet (about 3.5 m) deep. There were no
> survivors among the 44 passengers, crew and terrorists (all were
> killed by the impact or had been previously killed during
> flight).
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93
>
> Here's a link to all the literature that shows how all the bodies were
> identified by DNA and small property fond with the bodies.
>
> http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a091301victimside...
>
> Here's the in the news on 9/24/2001, CNN reports 95% or the aircraft
> was recovered form that hole including both black boxes.
>
> http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/24/inv.pennsylvania.site/index.html
>
> CNN.com
>
> FBI finished with Pennsylvania crash site probe
>
> SHANKSVILLE, Pennsylvania (CNN) --The FBI announced Monday that its
> investigation of the site where a hijacked jet slammed into a field
> here is complete and that 95 percent of the plane was recovered.
>
> The federal investigation into the September 11 terrorist attacks
> continues.
>
> Evidence-gathering was halted Saturday afternoon and the pieces of
> United Airlines Flight 93 that had been recovered were turned over
> Sunday to the airline, with the exception of the flight data recorder
> and the voice recorder, which are being held and analyzed by the FBI,
> according to FBI agent Bill Crowley.
>
> Crowley said the biggest piece of the plane that was recovered was a
> 6-by-7-foot piece of the fuselage skin, including about four
> windows. The heaviest piece, Crowley said, was part of an engine fan,
> weighing about 1,000 pounds.
>
> Flight 93 was one of four jets hijacked Sept. 11. Authorities believe
> the flight, which originated in Newark, New Jersey, and had been
> destined for San Francisco, was headed for the nation's capital, where
> the hijackers may have intended to slam it into the White House or the
> Capitol.
>
> Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller have
> praised the passengers of that flight, saying it appears their actions
> in trying to regain control of the aircraft averted a greater tragedy.
>
> People who spoke by phone with passengers after the plane was hijacked
> say that after the passengers found out about the earlier World Trade
> Center attack, they decided to try to overpower the hijackers.
>
> And officials familiar with the flight's cockpit voice recorder say it
> shows there was a "definite struggle," which they described as
> desperate and wild, between hijackers and some of the passengers.
>
> All 44 people on board the flight were killed when it slammed into the
> ground.
>
> --
> --
> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

"not the thick black smoke you would expect from an aircrash" He must
also have a degree in Smokeology (probably way to much) as well as
holeology. Yep a well thought out holeologists exploration of what
smoke does...............Doc

[Eeyore[_2_]]

shrubkiller wrote:

> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
> plane dove into the ground?

It isn't 6 miles long. That's the simple answer.

Graham

[[email protected]]

On Aug 30, 2:46 pm, Dan > wrote:
> R. Scott wrote:
> > "shrubkiller" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> >> On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
> >>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
> >>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to
> >>> be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>
> >>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or
> >>> munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>
> >>> Watch Loose
> >>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>
> >> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
> >> plane dove into the ground?
>
> > Shhh no don't go confusing them with facts. It hurts their little tin
> > covered heads
>
> Oswald was responsible for JFK, 9/11 and many other conspiracies. He
> is in charge of the black helicopters. The film of Oswald being shot is
> a fake. The world is coming to an end because it is hollow and being
> rapidly filled with waste from the space alien visitors. They access it
> through a secret Nazi underground u-boat base built during WW2. Hilary
> Clinton is their leader. Little brother is watching you.
>
> I think that just about covers everything.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

yep, the passengers of 93, Elvis and Hitler are all living in
Brazil...

[Dan[_2_]]

wrote:
> On Aug 30, 2:46 pm, Dan > wrote:
>> R. Scott wrote:
>>> "shrubkiller" > wrote in message
>>> ps.com...
>>>> On Aug 30, 5:17 am, Hobo > wrote:
>>>>> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
>>>>> question: Where is this 757 supposed to
>>>>> be?http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg
>>>>> The crater from above. 757 crash, or
>>>>> munitions?http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/911debunker/aerial_wdr.jpg
>>>>> Watch Loose
>>>>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
>>>> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
>>>> plane dove into the ground?
>>> Shhh no don't go confusing them with facts. It hurts their little tin
>>> covered heads
>> Oswald was responsible for JFK, 9/11 and many other conspiracies. He
>> is in charge of the black helicopters. The film of Oswald being shot is
>> a fake. The world is coming to an end because it is hollow and being
>> rapidly filled with waste from the space alien visitors. They access it
>> through a secret Nazi underground u-boat base built during WW2. Hilary
>> Clinton is their leader. Little brother is watching you.
>>
>> I think that just about covers everything.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> yep, the passengers of 93, Elvis and Hitler are all living in
> Brazil...
>
>
Hey, who told you?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Gattman[_2_]]

"Hobo" > wrote in message
> The Shanksville crater, many people stood around all asking the same
> question: Where is this 757 supposed to be?
> http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_ap.jpg

Airplanes are made of aluminum. Throw a popcan in a fire sometime.

Better yet, ask a few hundred pilots and crash investigators what happens
when planes fireball at several hundred miles an hour. Except, this time,
LISTEN TO WHAT THE HELL THEY TELL YOU AND STOP LISTENING TO CONSPIRACY
GEEKS.

> Watch Loose Change:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

Loose Change is such a joke they needed to do a second revision to revise
all the crap that was debunked the first time around. That way, it makes it
seem like they cleaned up the bull**** and suggests upon its viewers that
whatever's left must be true. But whatever you do, listen to a bunch of
25-year-old filmmakers, not actual pilots and aerospace experts.

-c

[Gattman[_2_]]

"shrubkiller" > wrote in message
ps.com...

>> Watch Loose
>> Change:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
> plane dove into the ground?

The debris trail was not 6 miles long.

The debris trail was not 6 miles long. It's only 6 miles if you drive by
road. Forf'cksake, how many times do people have to go over this?

-c

[Gattman[_2_]]

"Al G" > wrote in message
...

>> .....................and why was the debris trail 6 miles long if the
>> plane dove into the ground?
>>
> Debris trail wasn't 6 miles long. A piece of paper was found in a lake
> 1.5 miles away, and I guess if you did a map quest that showed 6.4 mile
> DRIVE to that lake, and you are an idiot, you might think a debris trail
> was 6 miles.

Exactly.

-c

[Bill Kambic]

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:15:57 -0500, Dan > wrote:

<massive snipping of verbiage for brevity>

>>> I think that just about covers everything.
>>>
>>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>
>> yep, the passengers of 93, Elvis and Hitler are all living in
>> Brazil...
>>
>>
>Hey, who told you?

Amelia Earhart; she was driving.

[Dan[_2_]]

Bill Kambic wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:15:57 -0500, Dan > wrote:
>
> <massive snipping of verbiage for brevity>
>
>>>> I think that just about covers everything.
>>>>
>>>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>> yep, the passengers of 93, Elvis and Hitler are all living in
>>> Brazil...
>>>
>>>
>> Hey, who told you?
>
> Amelia Earhart; she was driving.
>
Drat, I swore her to secrecy.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Gordon[_2_]]

Lets see. She correctly describes an A-10 without "ever having seen
one". I guess she was sleeping through the first Gulf War, eh?